Feel and Rhythm + Aiming.

8pack

8pack

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( I think )When it comes to aiming, if your system requires you to take longer then a few seconds to figure out the shot, you'll never understand what feel and rhythm can do for you. Knowledge is required for certain but if you don't let go at some point, YOUR dead stroke will never happen.
You ever play and beat someone and never really remember a thing:??.:smile:

A lot of system's out there, many are wrong, wrong in the way of really getting your best out.Feel and rhythm will create the right type of aiming.
Something simple and fast is whats required.

JMO

Anthony
 
8pack said:
( I think )When it comes to aiming, if your system requires you to take longer then a few seconds to figure out the shot, you'll never understand what feel and rhythm can do for you. ...
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Once a player is knowledgeable and experienced with an aiming method, I can't imagine it requiring "longer than a few seconds to figure out the shot." Players who take longer may be doing so for reasons other than the requirements of the aiming method.
 
Agree to an Extent

8pack said:
( I think )When it comes to aiming, if your system requires you to take longer then a few seconds to figure out the shot, you'll never understand what feel and rhythm can do for you. Knowledge is required for certain but if you don't let go at some point, YOUR dead stroke will never happen.
You ever play and beat someone and never really remember a thing:??.:smile:

A lot of system's out there, many are wrong, wrong in the way of really getting your best out.Feel and rhythm will create the right type of aiming.
Something simple and fast is whats required.

JMO

Anthony
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8pack,
I can go along with that to an extent. Getting feel and rhythm is definitely a stage we all need to go through and if you cant manage to get some feel and rhythm going its because you arent doing things the same enough to find it.

There is a land beyond feel and rhythm where a very deliberate player can slow you down and prevent you from getting a rhythm and if you are dependent on your rhythm play then its very humbling.

Thats one of the reasons I like One Pocket. It makes you assemble what you do in strict order and do it without the presence of rhythm. Its being able to come with something when you need to from a dead stop, when you get called to step to the table. Its a feel without rhythm, that you have and carry with you at all times.
 
336Robin said:


8pack,
I can go along with that to an extent. Getting feel and rhythm is definitely a stage we all need to go through and if you cant manage to get some feel and rhythm going its because you arent doing things the same enough to find it.

There is a land beyond feel and rhythm where a very deliberate player can slow you down and prevent you from getting a rhythm and if you are dependent on your rhythm play then its very humbling.

Thats one of the reasons I like One Pocket. It makes you assemble what you do in strict order and do it without the presence of rhythm. Its being able to come with something when you need to from a dead stop, when you get called to step to the table. Its a feel without rhythm, that you have and carry with you at all times
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thats a trait i admire in straight pool players who can step up after sitting in a chair for a half an hour and run 100 balls
 
LAMas said:
Why do the Pros take so long to shoot?
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I'm actually talking about the aiming process,nothing else,and not the game. It shouild be obvious the pace will be defferent on what game your playing.

Get a pro on the bar table playing 9 ball, see how fast your a$$ get's run out on.:smile:

Anthony
 
the aiming part of the game the easiest, hitting the cue-ball accurately is tough

AtLarge said:
Once a player is knowledgeable and experienced with an aiming method, I can't imagine it requiring "longer than a few seconds to figure out the shot." Players who take longer may be doing so for reasons other than the requirements of the aiming method.
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Yes, the aiming part of the game is the easiest, therefore, the quickest.

Effective pre-shot routines, and hitting the cue-ball precisely, and consistently......now that's another story.
 
One Universal Truth in Aiming

CJ Wiley said:
Yes, the aiming part of the game is the easiest, therefore, the quickest.

Effective pre-shot routines, and hitting the cue-ball precisely, and consistently......now that's another story.
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Absolutely,

I think that is the universal truth in Aiming.....Delivery.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Not because of aiming.

pj
chgo
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How do you know?

Y'all have no idea......best to speak for what you do rather than just speculate on what others do just in order to appear to know it all.

If y'all played 14.1 more and not those kids games, this question would never have been asked.
 
Aren't you speculating now?

duckie said:
How do you know?

Y'all have no idea......best to speak for what you do rather than just speculate on what others do just in order to appear to know it all.

If y'all played 14.1 more and not those kids games, this question would never have been asked.
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duckie said:
How do you know?

Y'all have no idea......best to speak for what you do rather than just speculate on what others do just in order to appear to know it all.

If y'all played 14.1 more and not those kids games, this question would never have been asked.
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Since you think 8, 9, and 10 ball are kids games, it's fair to assume that you must have them mastered by now. Would love to see videos of you playing them so masterfully. Always enjoy watching high level play. ;)
 
LAMas:
Why do the Pros take so long to shoot?
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Not because of aiming.

pj
chgo
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duckie:
How do you know?
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Because they spend most of that time walking around the table planning the shot. You know, not aiming.

...best to speak for what you do rather than just speculate on what others do just in order to appear to know it all.
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Good advice. Try it sometime.

pj
chgo
 
AtLarge said:
Once a player is knowledgeable and experienced with an aiming method, I can't imagine it requiring "longer than a few seconds to figure out the shot." Players who take longer may be doing so for reasons other than the requirements of the aiming method.
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If a player is experienced enough to play really well, it can be done only in just a few deffent ways. Most all good players share this certain way of doing things. You cannot address this way of playing with just any system. Learning a system doesn't give you any right to play well no matter how long you spend at it. My point is... most system will hurt you in the long run. They sound good , but thats not the ways its done, If you really want your best game.

JMO.
 
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Why so some Pros take longer when down and stroking?
Fine tuning their Aiming or just stroking?
 
8pack said:
If a player is experienced enough to play really well, it can be done only in just a few deffent ways. Most all good players share this certain way of doing things. You cannot address this way of playing with any system. Learning a system doesn't give you any right to play well no matter how long you spend at it. My point is... most system will hurt you in the long run. They sound good , but thats not the ways its done, If you really want your best game.

JMO.
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Again, JMO too, Anthony.

That said, I am not opposed to a 'system' or method. But... like you say, it has to be so simple & so quick that it basically does not exist on any conscious level. The focus can never go to it. It has to stay an invisible & unrecognizable method to the madness, so to speak, & the player has to be 'blind' to it.

If any part of it comes to a consciousness, then one looses the connection to 'The Zone' & one, as you say, will not be playing one's 'Best' Game.

That said, there seems to be those that can not play that way. I recently posted about those that play as 'athletes' & those that play from a more academic 'bookworm' approach that have a need to have something with them to rely upon.

To each their own.

Best 2 You & All,
Rick
 
8pack said:
My point is... most system will hurt you in the long run. They sound good , but thats not the ways its done, If you really want your best game.

JMO.
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Thats precisely why I approach aiming differently than pivot systems. To me you lose a lot of visual information when you start pivoting and add confusion when you pivot and arent addressing the ball squarely. i just dont see the point.
 
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