CJ's Suggestions

CJ's post/suggestions

  • makes perfect sense

    Votes: 55 35.5%
  • makes sense at times

    Votes: 55 35.5%
  • confusing

    Votes: 12 7.7%
  • makes no sense

    Votes: 33 21.3%

  • Total voters
    155
Like the other thousand techniques out there, TOI can work for some people. That being said it doesn't work for me. Now in regards to Mr. Wiley directly...

I do not care at all for the ("constant") buzz word/phrases in his posts or the constant use of "quotations" in most of his posts. Not only is this practice sorely and blatantly incorrect from a grammatical standpoint, its also annoying. Replying to the "haters" with "sarcasm" to prove a "point," does not make you sound like a patient teacher at all. It makes you sound like a politician.

CJ, your ego is so big that much like a planet attracts meteors and asteroids, you attract "haters". The moon is tired of fighting with your head over who controls the tides.

Most of the professionals of the billiard industry are very objective on this forum. OB for example, has impressed me with their efforts to support customers and inform rather than promote themselves blatantly. John Barton may make great cases, but his conduct, attitude, and ego made him lose the respect and gain a lot of "haters." Your system may be great for some, but I wouldn't book you for a lesson in a million years. Its funny how the respectable teachers of the game like Mark Wilson, Dr. Dave, Stan Shuffett, and others don't swim in this controversy that you do.

You patronize a forum member with a 'lets play and stream it' move as a way to discredit him when he in fact may have a fair amount of technical knowledge. The lack of maturity amazes me. Also most true experts, never call seem to call themselves experts and the approach the game with humility. Remeber CJ, the game is the teacher, not you.

Next we have stories. Well here is one.

A player in his mid-late 20s is in a major city in Texas. The break-pots are high. $500+ a ball and up all over the place! This player might not have the best cue ball control but he shoots straight as hell and has a lot of heart and gamble. Our guy enters a pool hall, where everybody is buying tickets. Thousands of them. Next thing you know, a man with some dough gets the winning ticket number. He puts CJ on the table. Cj breaks em hard, the rack explodes and the layout is easy. The pot is over $10,000, so do the math on 10 ball. Knowing this, all CJ has to do is runout and he is almost straight in on the 1 ball and its 3 ft. away. CJ dogs his brains out and the pot is safe. Meanwhile, our guy who doesn't have ESPN World Champion on display like a peacock with his feathers, goes around town and snaps a bunch of break-pots off. Making thousands.

The moral of the story is that no matter what "system" you use, the game takes heart and no matter how much of "champion" you think you are, you probably aren't the demigod of pool your ego tells you that you are.

CJ you may have the ability of a professional, the know how of a marketing guru and the aptitude to develop decent system, but you sir have no class. The main forum is becoming about you more than pool and its disgusting.

Come on down to the Big Tyme Classic at the end of the month and give us an expo! I'm sure a champion like you can play Kevin Cheng 10 ball on table 4. Hell maybe you can get into some one pocket action while you are here in Houston and you can TOI your way to 8 and out every game!

So go ahead and say "heads" as a way to derail a conversation!

This is the greatest post in the history of this forum.

Well done.
 
"The good thing about science is that it’s true whether or not you believe in it." ~ Neil deGrasse Tyson

This guy dropped a few notches in my estimation when I heard him passing on the "cllimate change" nonsense in one of his broadcasts. It's sad when careers are threatened when the orthodoxy isn't maintained.

As far as finding a good instructor, I like the old adage:

"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother."

If CJ can get my grandmother to run a six pack then I'll buy his CD's. :D
 
Like the other thousand techniques out there, TOI can work for some people. That being said it doesn't work for me. Now in regards to Mr. Wiley directly...

I do not care at all for the ("constant") buzz word/phrases in his posts or the constant use of "quotations" in most of his posts. Not only is this practice sorely and blatantly incorrect from a grammatical standpoint, its also annoying. Replying to the "haters" with "sarcasm" to prove a "point," does not make you sound like a patient teacher at all. It makes you sound like a politician.

CJ, your ego is so big that much like a planet attracts meteors and asteroids, you attract "haters". The moon is tired of fighting with your head over who controls the tides.

Most of the professionals of the billiard industry are very objective on this forum. OB for example, has impressed me with their efforts to support customers and inform rather than promote themselves blatantly. John Barton may make great cases, but his conduct, attitude, and ego made him lose the respect and gain a lot of "haters." Your system may be great for some, but I wouldn't book you for a lesson in a million years. Its funny how the respectable teachers of the game like Mark Wilson, Dr. Dave, Stan Shuffett, and others don't swim in this controversy that you do.

You patronize a forum member with a 'lets play and stream it' move as a way to discredit him when he in fact may have a fair amount of technical knowledge. The lack of maturity amazes me. Also most true experts, never call seem to call themselves experts and the approach the game with humility. Remeber CJ, the game is the teacher, not you.

Next we have stories. Well here is one.

A player in his mid-late 20s is in a major city in Texas. The break-pots are high. $500+ a ball and up all over the place! This player might not have the best cue ball control but he shoots straight as hell and has a lot of heart and gamble. Our guy enters a pool hall, where everybody is buying tickets. Thousands of them. Next thing you know, a man with some dough gets the winning ticket number. He puts CJ on the table. Cj breaks em hard, the rack explodes and the layout is easy. The pot is over $10,000, so do the math on 10 ball. Knowing this, all CJ has to do is runout and he is almost straight in on the 1 ball and its 3 ft. away. CJ dogs his brains out and the pot is safe. Meanwhile, our guy who doesn't have ESPN World Champion on display like a peacock with his feathers, goes around town and snaps a bunch of break-pots off. Making thousands.

The moral of the story is that no matter what "system" you use, the game takes heart and no matter how much of "champion" you think you are, you probably aren't the demigod of pool your ego tells you that you are.

CJ you may have the ability of a professional, the know how of a marketing guru and the aptitude to develop decent system, but you sir have no class. The main forum is becoming about you more than pool and its disgusting.

Come on down to the Big Tyme Classic at the end of the month and give us an expo! I'm sure a champion like you can play Kevin Cheng 10 ball on table 4. Hell maybe you can get into some one pocket action while you are here in Houston and you can TOI your way to 8 and out every game!

So go ahead and say "heads" as a way to derail a conversation!

Drop the Rock? Your username should be Drop the Mic! :thumbup:

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Post of the Year winner right here!
 
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Like the other thousand techniques out there, TOI can work for some people. That being said it doesn't work for me. Now in regards to Mr. Wiley directly...

I do not care at all for the ("constant") buzz word/phrases in his posts or the constant use of "quotations" in most of his posts. Not only is this practice sorely and blatantly incorrect from a grammatical standpoint, its also annoying. Replying to the "haters" with "sarcasm" to prove a "point," does not make you sound like a patient teacher at all. It makes you sound like a politician.

CJ, your ego is so big that much like a planet attracts meteors and asteroids, you attract "haters". The moon is tired of fighting with your head over who controls the tides.

Most of the professionals of the billiard industry are very objective on this forum. OB for example, has impressed me with their efforts to support customers and inform rather than promote themselves blatantly. John Barton may make great cases, but his conduct, attitude, and ego made him lose the respect and gain a lot of "haters." Your system may be great for some, but I wouldn't book you for a lesson in a million years. Its funny how the respectable teachers of the game like Mark Wilson, Dr. Dave, Stan Shuffett, and others don't swim in this controversy that you do.

You patronize a forum member with a 'lets play and stream it' move as a way to discredit him when he in fact may have a fair amount of technical knowledge. The lack of maturity amazes me. Also most true experts, never call seem to call themselves experts and the approach the game with humility. Remeber CJ, the game is the teacher, not you.

Next we have stories. Well here is one.

A player in his mid-late 20s is in a major city in Texas. The break-pots are high. $500+ a ball and up all over the place! This player might not have the best cue ball control but he shoots straight as hell and has a lot of heart and gamble. Our guy enters a pool hall, where everybody is buying tickets. Thousands of them. Next thing you know, a man with some dough gets the winning ticket number. He puts CJ on the table. Cj breaks em hard, the rack explodes and the layout is easy. The pot is over $10,000, so do the math on 10 ball. Knowing this, all CJ has to do is runout and he is almost straight in on the 1 ball and its 3 ft. away. CJ dogs his brains out and the pot is safe. Meanwhile, our guy who doesn't have ESPN World Champion on display like a peacock with his feathers, goes around town and snaps a bunch of break-pots off. Making thousands.

The moral of the story is that no matter what "system" you use, the game takes heart and no matter how much of "champion" you think you are, you probably aren't the demigod of pool your ego tells you that you are.

CJ you may have the ability of a professional, the know how of a marketing guru and the aptitude to develop decent system, but you sir have no class. The main forum is becoming about you more than pool and its disgusting.

Come on down to the Big Tyme Classic at the end of the month and give us an expo! I'm sure a champion like you can play Kevin Cheng 10 ball on table 4. Hell maybe you can get into some one pocket action while you are here in Houston and you can TOI your way to 8 and out every game!

So go ahead and say "heads" as a way to derail a conversation!
Maybe the miss was intended

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Can someone explain what break pots are and how they become so large please?

I host a thursday night 9 ball tournament with one so I will explain as best I can and why they exist. Our entry fee for the tournament is $10 dollars, $2 goes to the break pot and the rest to the tournament payout and then we add $100 etc. Usually a pool hall will add $200 to a 10 Ball breakpot to start and then tournament entries add to it. Next you sell tickets for 2 hours before drawing a ticket and giving a player the chance to break and run. If the player makes a ball on the break and runs 5 and gets hooked, he decides to stop shooting and if the pot is at $50 a ball makes $300. However, if he misses at any point or doesn't make a ball on the break he doesn't get anything. Usually break pots are done on really tight tables. Manny Chau snapped mine off when it was $100 a ball a couple of weeks ago.

Now for why they exist...To get people in the door. Usually around the $100 a ball mark and up more people start to play in the tournament and show up to buy tickets for the break pot. More people means more alcohol sales and good marketing. At some point you start to sell more tickets than what the pot is even worth and it becomes a perpetual advertising and sales generator that will go as long as there is a reserve for the pot and somebody doesn't break and run 3 weeks in a row.
 
Thanks for taking the time to write

Like the other thousand techniques out there, TOI can work for some people. That being said it doesn't work for me. Now in regards to Mr. Wiley directly...

I do not care at all for the ("constant") buzz word/phrases in his posts or the constant use of "quotations" in most of his posts. Not only is this practice sorely and blatantly incorrect from a grammatical standpoint, its also annoying. Replying to the "haters" with "sarcasm" to prove a "point," does not make you sound like a patient teacher at all. It makes you sound like a politician.

CJ, your ego is so big that much like a planet attracts meteors and asteroids, you attract "haters". The moon is tired of fighting with your head over who controls the tides.

Most of the professionals of the billiard industry are very objective on this forum. OB for example, has impressed me with their efforts to support customers and inform rather than promote themselves blatantly. John Barton may make great cases, but his conduct, attitude, and ego made him lose the respect and gain a lot of "haters." Your system may be great for some, but I wouldn't book you for a lesson in a million years. Its funny how the respectable teachers of the game like Mark Wilson, Dr. Dave, Stan Shuffett, and others don't swim in this controversy that you do.

You patronize a forum member with a 'lets play and stream it' move as a way to discredit him when he in fact may have a fair amount of technical knowledge. The lack of maturity amazes me. Also most true experts, never call seem to call themselves experts and the approach the game with humility. Remeber CJ, the game is the teacher, not you.

Next we have stories. Well here is one.

A player in his mid-late 20s is in a major city in Texas. The break-pots are high. $500+ a ball and up all over the place! This player might not have the best cue ball control but he shoots straight as hell and has a lot of heart and gamble. Our guy enters a pool hall, where everybody is buying tickets. Thousands of them. Next thing you know, a man with some dough gets the winning ticket number. He puts CJ on the table. Cj breaks em hard, the rack explodes and the layout is easy. The pot is over $10,000, so do the math on 10 ball. Knowing this, all CJ has to do is runout and he is almost straight in on the 1 ball and its 3 ft. away. CJ dogs his brains out and the pot is safe. Meanwhile, our guy who doesn't have ESPN World Champion on display like a peacock with his feathers, goes around town and snaps a bunch of break-pots off. Making thousands.

The moral of the story is that no matter what "system" you use, the game takes heart and no matter how much of "champion" you think you are, you probably aren't the demigod of pool your ego tells you that you are.

CJ you may have the ability of a professional, the know how of a marketing guru and the aptitude to develop decent system, but you sir have no class. The main forum is becoming about you more than pool and its disgusting.

Come on down to the Big Tyme Classic at the end of the month and give us an expo! I'm sure a champion like you can play Kevin Cheng 10 ball on table 4. Hell maybe you can get into some one pocket action while you are here in Houston and you can TOI your way to 8 and out every game!

So go ahead and say "heads" as a way to derail a conversation!

Thanks for taking the time to write such a long story about me. Aloha :thumbup:

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Depending on the pot size, the balls are worth a portion of the total

Can someone explain what break pots are and how they become so large please?

We have break and run contests here in Texas where you buy tickets for $1 apiece, then there's a drawing and if your ticket is selected you win.

Some places let you select a player, some make you shoot it yourself. Depending on the pot size, the balls are worth a portion of the total ie: $1000 pot in 10 ball would equal $100 a ball.

I have never participated in one that is 10k, although there have been several I've won in the 5k range. I won the JR POCKETS one in Denton two days ago for $2000. - I've not "dogged" any shots in a competition, although I did miss one in 2011 (because I didn't use TOI) ;) 'the GAME is the teacher'
 
Send your granny down to Texas

This guy dropped a few notches in my estimation when I heard him passing on the "cllimate change" nonsense in one of his broadcasts. It's sad when careers are threatened when the orthodoxy isn't maintained.

As far as finding a good instructor, I like the old adage:

"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother."

If CJ can get my grandmother to run a six pack then I'll buy his CD's. :D

Send your granny down to Texas and we'll get her running out in no time. :thumbup:
 
The most important factor is you don't have to make near as many choices.

TOI works for all games in the same manner. What you will find is using TOI is a different game entirely. This sounds like a "general" answer is coming, however, I can go into as much detail as necessary. The most important factor is you don't have to make near as many choices.

Even in one pocket there is usually just one choice, sometimes two, depending on ball count, and "risk reward" considerations. When you spin the cue ball you have a wide range of things you can do, therefore a wide range of choices you have to make.

Many players think this is a good thing, I recommend they reconsider this because "less is more" in pocket billiards.

I played one pocket last night for two hours and played a "world class speed" the entire time. The player I was competing against is very accomplished and rarely got more than a couple of balls in a game. My game stays at a very high level and I spend most of my time teaching, not playing.

This is the first time in my lifetime I can do both the same, without conflict. There was a time, not to long ago that teaching hindered my playing, and now that I've been concentrating on the Touch of Inside the game is the easiest it's ever been for me to play, and enjoy.

The ending ball count was somewhere in the neighborhood of 160 to 32. He actually made many of his balls when he used TOI (he uses it unconsciously), he just doesn't realize the secret is doing it every time. Maybe he'll figure it out on his own, he'll probably never ask, and I'll probably never try to tell him 'The Game is the Teacher'

In conclusion:

TOI is better to use in eight-ball in most shots, however, you have to look for the shot. This isn't something that happens over night, so be patience, but at the same time you have to know the shot is always there.

If I was there I could show you the shot every time, so you can believe, the challenge is to stay with it and commit to mastering your TOI shot, like I suggest in the video.

Spin is ONLY necessary when you're changing an angle off the cushion or curving the cue ball. Very rarely is there an exception and if you have any specific examples I'll be happy to show you this is accurate and true.
 
The awesome thing about using TOI is there are few decisions

160 to 32.........hmmmm, 192 balls total, a minimum of 24 games if the score was 8-0 every game. So probably about 18-20 games played in 2 hours????.......TOI was working that night!!:rolleyes::rolleyes: About 1 game every 6 minutes, wow!

When I'm playing full speed I average one game every 72 seconds. My first pro tournament in Reno I played a match with Steve Mizerak that went 10/10 and I ran the last rack they said in less than a minute (I believe it may have been closer to 72 seconds).

The awesome thing about using TOI is there are few decisions to make. You know you're hitting the inside of the cue ball, you know the shot speed and you know how to create the angle using the '3 Part Pocket System'.......it really does make the game easy and fun to play, every day, in every way. ;) 'the GAME is the teacher'
 
When I'm playing full speed I average one game every 72 seconds. My first pro tournament in Reno I played a match with Steve Mizerak that went 10/10 and I ran the last rack they said in less than a minute (I believe it may have been closer to 72 seconds).

The awesome thing about using TOI is there are few decisions to make. You know you're hitting the inside of the cue ball, you know the shot speed and you know how to create the angle using the '3 Part Pocket System'.......it really does make the game easy and fun to play, every day, in every way. ;) 'the GAME is the teacher'

I see the advertisement, but I don't see where you put how much this TOI costs.
 
Right now, the poll is running about 3 to 1 that CJ has at least, somebody paying attention to his posts. Unfortunately, it's the opposite for haters versus fans. I predict it'll go even further apart. 5 or 6 to 1 possibly, as soon as the silent majority wakes up and starts voting. :cool:

Best,
Mike
 
You were playing one pocket though, right??

If he is talking about one pocket I would assume he means he ran out a rack in 72 seconds which is doable if the table is open for the run. He was not averaging winning games in 72 seconds.
 
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Right now, the poll is running about 3 to 1 that CJ has at least, somebody paying attention to his posts. Unfortunately, it's the opposite for haters versus fans. I predict it'll go even further apart. 5 or 6 to 1 possibly, as soon as the silent majority wakes up and starts voting. :cool:

Best,
Mike
You think 80% of AzB posters can't tell the difference between CJ's "suggestions" and common sense? That's a sad commentary.

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