WRISTS - The "hidden power catalyst" of a great stroke or "just along for the ride"?

Lou, I think he means what the kiddies mean when they use the term "hater" on the Interwebs. You know, like when someone says something that you don't agree with and you dare to voice a contrary opinion about it? Well, the kiddies might call you a hater for that.

Sloppy Pockets... not a hater. Feeling the love for everybody, but not agreeing with any of the tripe being served as prime rib on this thread.


oooooooh. So he's like a Swiftie.

Lou Figueroa
that explains
soooooo much
 
A question worth repeating...

Do the mods not recognize advertising when they see it, or do "celebrities" get an automatic pass to peddle their junk nonstop on the main forum?

Maybe they're charmed blind by the cute pictures?

pj
chgo

I do agree about the advertising but admit its no different than a certain someone who constantly post links to there website.
 
A question worth repeating...

Do the mods not recognize advertising when they see it, or do "celebrities" get an automatic pass to peddle their junk nonstop on the main forum?

Maybe they're charmed blind by the cute pictures?

pj
chgo

I have a question, now that you brought the subject up.

Why do the mods not recognize the incessant trolling and nipping at the heels of CJ by you and a few others for no apparent reason? Have you bought one of his DVDs and you didn't learn anything and want your money back? If not, what are you complaining about? He is giving away information for free. If you don't like his method, then find something that works for you.

It may only be ME, but I consider your posts hounding CJ to be trolling and childish.

Others have complained about his pictures and stuff he puts in his posts, but many of them have the same crap in their posts. For example, I don't need to see the incessant pictures of Wiley Coyote every post by one member. For another member, I don't care if he was a Navy LT...it is irrelevant to pool...who cares he was in the Navy? Does riding a boat make you a good pool player? Before you go thinking I'm bashing the Navy, I work for the Navy. Don't ask me what I think about the "average" Navy LT's opinion on anything...I work with them.

Same goes for the former Air Force PAO...I spent 24 years in the Air Force. I know how they operate too. 99% BS, maybe 1% substance.

I don't come here to bash people. I come here to learn something if I possibly can, but it is hard to do with a handful of trolls chasing people around and nipping at their heels in every thread.

There are a few people on here who have been banned numerous times from every pool forum on the internet...some banned PERMANENTLY. Should we call out their names on here and keep reminding people who they are? I think NOT, because most people can tell just by reading their posts.

CJ is a Gold Member (paying) and I think the owners and mods of this site know how to operate their OWN business. If you don't like the way they run the place, then start your own site or buy a membership and then complain about something. If you are a "freebie", STFU about how the place is run by the owners...you have NOTHING invested.

MY .02 cents.

Aloha and have a nice holiday weekend to all.
 
I do agree about the advertising but admit its no different than a certain someone who constantly post links to there website.
I strongly disagree. Dr. Dave's links are usually to the best free info available on these topics anywhere in the world, and his infrequent gentle reminders about his for-sale stuff are nothing compared to the nonstop hardcore huckstering.

It's an insult to compare them.

pj
chgo
 
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[CJ] is giving away information for free.
Your definition of "information" and "free" obviously differ from mine. My purpose in correcting anybody is to give uninformed readers a chance to hear the other side of incorrect technical claims. If the forum wasn't wallpapered with misinformation these days, it wouldn't have to be corrected so often. If sales pitches were confined to the For Sale forum where everybody (presumably) knows to take sales claims with a grain of salt, it would be much less necessary.

pj
chgo
 
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Your definition of "information" and "free" obviously differ from mine. My purpose in correcting anybody is to give uninformed readers a chance to hear the other side of incorrect technical claims. If the forum wasn't wallpapered with misinformation these days, it wouldn't have to be corrected so often. If sales pitches were confined to the For Sale forum where everybody (presumably) knows to take sales claims with a grain of salt, it wouldn't be much less necessary.

pj
chgo

So, YOU have appointed YOURSELF to be the "TECHNICAL POLICE"? Who the hell are you? How do you know they are "uninformed"? Did you give them some sort of interview or examination? Maybe they know more than you. Did they ask YOU for advice?

You put some posts on here that are informative and helpful, but you and a few others spend WAY MORE TIME trolling CJ.

Aloha.
 
Same goes for the former Air Force PAO...I spent 24 years in the Air Force. I know how they operate too. 99% BS, maybe 1% substance.


One of the first things I learned as a 2nd Lieutenant was to respect everyone's service. Don't matter if it's the guy in the finance office cutting checks, a woman supply driver, the SP standing watch on the flight line at 3am, the cook in the chow hall, the base commander or the two-striper. Everyone was doing their job for the same reason and deserved respect.

Too bad that in 24 years you never learned that one.

Lou Figueroa
 
I strongly disagree. Dr. Dave's links are usually to the best free info available on these topics anywhere in the world, and his infrequent gentle reminders about his for-sale stuff are nothing compared to the nonstop hardcore huckstering of weak and often misleading stuff from our resident celebrities.

It's an insult to compare them.

pj
chgo

we all have opinions
 
One of the first things I learned as a 2nd Lieutenant was to respect everyone's service. Don't matter if it's the guy in the finance office cutting checks, a woman supply driver, the SP standing watch on the flight line at 3am, the cook in the chow hall, the base commander or the two-striper. Everyone was doing their job for the same reason and deserved respect.

Too bad that in 24 years you never learned that one.

Lou Figueroa

Are you "respecting" CJ's "service" to pool? He knows 1000 times more about playing pool than you do, yet you hound him with disrespect.

It is YOUR attitude that people don't respect. You have a "holier than thou" projection when you try to communicate. You come across as a "know it all" and wise guy in all your dealings online. Hopefully, you don't do that in person in the pool hall. You wouldn't have made it in the pool halls where I grew up. At least with all your teeth intact.

There are officers and there are "holier than thou" officers...you fit the latter, IMHO.

A prime example of just how PAO you are is your post above. It is a BS "politically correct" statement that says "NOTHING". You had to throw in an enlisted person, an officer, a cook, and a woman truck driver, etc. Did you cover all the bases? Why did you throw in a "woman"? Why mention sex at all? You know how to write, and speak, and communicate, but your "messages" aren't SINCERE.

Aloha.
 
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So, YOU have appointed YOURSELF to be the "TECHNICAL POLICE"?
Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see this town needs a Tech Cop, but believe it or not I don't want the job. I come here for technical discussion, but little of that is happening any more (I think the environment is wrong for it), so there's not much for me to do but write Tech Tickets.

pj
chgo
 
Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see this town needs a Tech Cop, but believe it or not I don't want the job. I come here for technical discussion, but little of that is happening any more (I think the environment is wrong for it), so there's not much for me to do but write Tech Tickets.

pj
chgo

Or start some tech threads. How about a tech sub forum. I promise to stay out of it.
 
see the truth...... it's just another person's opinion

we all have opinions

Isn't that the truth?

Why are some opinions so obsessively critiqued? ....., is it from a self imposed illusion, or simply the inability to see the truth ...... that it's just another person's opinion?

I state my opinions about how I reached the highest levels in professional pool. These opinions are also to be taken as intended, just an offering of my experience, knowledge and competitive philosophies.

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Are you "respecting" CJ's "service" to pool? He knows 1000 times more about playing pool than you do, yet you hound him with disrespect.

It is YOUR attitude that people don't respect. You have a "holier than thou" projection when you try to communicate. You come across as a "know it all" and wise guy in all your dealings online. Hopefully, you don't do that in person in the pool hall. You wouldn't have made it in the pool halls where I grew up. At least with all your teeth intact.

There are officers and there are "holier than thou" officers...you fit the latter, IMHO.

A prime example of just how PAO you are is your post above. It is a BS "politically correct" statement that says "NOTHING". You had to throw in an enlisted person, an officer, a cook, and a woman truck driver, etc. Did you cover all the bases? Why did you throw in a "woman"? Why mention sex at all? You know how to write, and speak, and communicate, but your "messages" aren't SINCERE.

Aloha.


I wrote what I wrote because it's the truth. It takes all kinds of people -- young, old; male, female; enlisted, officer; flying, non; in over 100 different AFSCs -- to do the job. It would take a cynical person to see it otherwise. Moreover, I was being sincere -- it's what I saw and experienced, and I was proud to serve with all of them over the course of my 20 year career.

You, OTOH, had 24 years in and apparently did not learn to respect the rest of the team. Shame on you.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Allow the beginner's minds to flourish randomly...take the Clear path

So, YOU have appointed YOURSELF to be the "TECHNICAL POLICE"? Who the hell are you? How do you know they are "uninformed"? Did you give them some sort of interview or examination? Maybe they know more than you. Did they ask YOU for advice?

You put some posts on here that are informative and helpful, but you and a few others spend WAY MORE TIME trolling CJ.

Aloha.

Don't mind them, they have no interest in helping this forum, or any players improve. Since the very first their only mission has been to shoot down anything I say. They have been barred from the forum for 2 years, and I'd say it's going to happen again very soon.

Play well, and let's all enjoy this game to the best of our ability. Aloha

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Don't mind them, they have no interest in helping this forum, or any players improve. Since the very first their only mission has been to shoot down anything I say. They have been barred from the forum for 2 years, and I'd say it's going to happen again very soon.

Play well, and let's all enjoy this game to the best of our ability. Aloha

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Mr Wiley, not that anyone has noticed, (:embarrassed2:)..but are three threads going, on TOI, with over 2500 posts, of which I would guess, over half are yours !..As soon as one starts to fade, you (or Mr. Eye) will jump in and save it, with more of your endless, repetitious ramblings about the 'miracle' of TOI..(with occasional tangents, off into golf, archery, carpentry, or the zen world) :rolleyes:

If anyone appears to be on a "mission", it is you !..This could be why your many detractor's 'go off' on you so often, and you often appear to encourage their actions, thereby gaining even more facetime :( Many of us are wishing the old 'aiming system' threads would come back..at least there was some diversity there, and we weren't being pummeled to death on the same subject !

PS..By the way, where is your billboard-size logo sig line, with the little housewife's referral, as she gushes over the wonders of TOI ?..Could this be a sign of mercy on your part, or are you drafting up a new one to torture us with ? :eek:
 
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I guess you'll keep trying to beat me until you feel better about yourself

Mr Wiley, not that anyone has noticed, (:embarrassed2:)..but are three threads going, on TOI, with over 2500 posts, of which I would guess, over half are yours !..As soon as one starts to fade, you (or Mr. Eye) will jump in and save it, with more of your endless, repetitious ramblings about the 'miracle' of TOI..(with occasional tangents, off into golf, archery, carpentry, or the zen world) :rolleyes:

If anyone appears to be on a "mission", it is you !..This could be why your many detractor's 'go off' on you so often, and you often appear to encourage their actions, thereby gaining even more facetime :(
Many of us are wishing the old 'aiming system' threads would come back..at least there was some diversity there, and we weren't being pummeled to death on the same subject !

PS..By the way, where is your billboard-size logo sig line, with the little housewife's referral, as she gushes over the wonders of TOI ?..Could this be a sign of mercy on your part, or are you drafting up a new one to torture us with ? :eek:

Thanks, Dad.....some things never change do they?

This reminds me of when you lost all of mom's jewelery and that mean man came to the house and took it forcefully off of her. Then, you beat me with a belt until I was almost dead. Thank God for foster homes. :groucho:

I guess you'll keep trying to beat me until you feel better about yourself. One thing you did do is make me tough, no matter how much you hate me, and strike out, I will still love you and mom for what you did for me.....even though I had to survive on my own.
 
"you know this Game you play is already perfect....it's up to you to uncover it"

I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places....I really didn't spend a lot of time back there, but this day was the exception. An older man came in, sat down and ordered a soda...I knew how to "mix" that one so I got it for him and set it down.

The man said "you are the professional pool player CJ aren't you?"....I replied "yes, that's me, unless I owe you money - LoL"....he laughed, took a drink and said, "no, you don't owe me money, but I would like to ask you a question that may result in some."

I suddenly felt him get serous and wondered what this older man was up to -

"sure, you can ask me whatever you want" I said, leaning against the cooler.....the man pointed at the pool table and ask "what are you trying to achieve playing that Game?"....

I hesitated, thought and replied "I'm trying to be the best player I can be, maybe even the best in the world, at least for a time-being".

The man place his napkin between us, looked into my eyes and said firmly -

"you know this Game you play is already perfect....it's up to you to uncover it" and immediately turned over the napkin and looked under it.....

"Do You Understand" he said firmly again "The Game is already perfect, it's just up to you to uncover that Perfection", again he lifted up the napkin, looked under it and then quickly back into my now de-focused stare.

His eyes by now felt like they were probing my very soul and I shifted a bit, suddenly feeling more clear, answered "I think I understand.....it's not me that has to be perfect, it's the game, so I don't need to try to be perfect, I just need to Uncover the Perfection that's already been placed there...in the Game.....by...uhhhh".

He smiled at my hesitation and finished "by the Breath of the Universe or The Breath of a Higher Power, right now that's not as important as you having Faith that it's true!

He then told me to hold on for a minute and went to his car and brought back a book called 'A Parenthesis in Eternity', that I read and still have to this day.....this was one of those occasions that influenced me so much I find myself wondering if this old man was really an old man.....or.....angel....no, that would be silly now wouldn't it?.....hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...?"

'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Mr Wiley, not that anyone has noticed, (:embarrassed2:)..but are three threads going, on TOI, with over 2500 posts, of which I would guess, over half are yours !..As soon as one starts to fade, you (or Mr. Eye) will jump in and save it, with more of your endless, repetitious ramblings about the 'miracle' of TOI..(with occasional tangents, off into golf, archery, carpentry, or the zen world) :rolleyes:

If anyone appears to be on a "mission", it is you !..This could be why your many detractor's 'go off' on you so often, and you often appear to encourage their actions, thereby gaining even more facetime :(
Many of us are wishing the old 'aiming system' threads would come back..at least there was some diversity there, and we weren't being pummeled to death on the same subject !

PS..By the way, where is your billboard-size logo sig line, with the little housewife's referral, as she gushes over the wonders of TOI ?..Could this be a sign of mercy on your part, or are you drafting up a new one to torture us with ? :eek:

hey there fella....

Your many detractor's go off on you so often and you often appear to encourage their actions...

th
 
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I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
This sounds eerily familiar...

9/25/2012
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
9/25/2012 (Again)
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
9/28/2012
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
5/17/2013
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
11/11/2013
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
12/21/2014
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
4/27/2015
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
...hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
5/4/2015
I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places...
....hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...
 
I find myself wondering if this old man was really an old man.....or.....angel.

This sounds eerily familiar...

You must need to read the story again, and again, and again.......LoL

I was hanging out at my pool room "CJ's" behind the bar of all places....I really didn't spend a lot of time back there, but this day was the exception. An older man came in, sat down and ordered a soda...I knew how to "mix" that one so I got it for him and set it down.

The man said "you are the professional pool player CJ aren't you?"....I replied "yes, that's me, unless I owe you money - LoL"....he laughed, took a drink and said, "no, you don't owe me money, but I would like to ask you a question that may result in some."

I suddenly felt him get serous and wondered what this older man was up to -

"sure, you can ask me whatever you want" I said, leaning against the cooler.....the man pointed at the pool table and ask "what are you trying to achieve playing that Game?"....

I hesitated, thought and replied "I'm trying to be the best player I can be, maybe even the best in the world, at least for a time-being".

The man place his napkin between us, looked into my eyes and said firmly -

"you know this Game you play is already perfect....it's up to you to uncover it" and immediately turned over the napkin and looked under it.....

"Do You Understand" he said firmly again "The Game is already perfect, it's just up to you to uncover that Perfection", again he lifted up the napkin, looked under it and then quickly back into my now de-focused stare.

His eyes by now felt like they were probing my very soul and I shifted a bit, suddenly feeling more clear, answered "I think I understand.....it's not me that has to be perfect, it's the game, so I don't need to try to be perfect, I just need to Uncover the Perfection that's already been placed there...in the Game.....by...uhhhh".

He smiled at my hesitation and finished "by the Breath of the Universe or The Breath of a Higher Power, right now that's not as important as you having Faith that it's true!

He then told me to hold on for a minute and went to his car and brought back a book called 'A Parenthesis in Eternity', that I read and still have to this day.....this was one of those occasions that influenced me so much I find myself wondering if this old man was really an old man.....or.....angel....no, that would be silly now wouldn't it?.....hmmm, I still can't help but wonder...?"
 
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