But they're not there, they're here. "when in Rome"
When is Dennis gonna learn how to shake hands
- Thread starter EL'nino
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Just watch the end of the Masters finals (HERE at 2:47:15)
Despite being thrashed 10-1, Barry still has enough class to
1. Shake Ronnie's hand
2. Look him in the eye like a man and congratulate him on the win.
3. Give a post match interview immediately afterwards
This isn't the only example. It happens at the end of literally EVERY snooker final. It doesn't mean they are okay with losing, or that they aren't competitive. They just have class and self confidence to believe they can get there again and will perform better.
There is a fine line between being highly competitive and being emotionally unstable. I think we know where a lot of pool players stand.
Despite being thrashed 10-1, Barry still has enough class to
1. Shake Ronnie's hand
2. Look him in the eye like a man and congratulate him on the win.
3. Give a post match interview immediately afterwards
This isn't the only example. It happens at the end of literally EVERY snooker final. It doesn't mean they are okay with losing, or that they aren't competitive. They just have class and self confidence to believe they can get there again and will perform better.
There is a fine line between being highly competitive and being emotionally unstable. I think we know where a lot of pool players stand.
This is the one thing.......the one thing that I know
I live in Houston, TX and over the last couple of years have played in a few tournaments in which Dennis has also played. The few times we have passed each other if I acknowledged/greeted him then he would always acknowledge/greet me in a polite and humble manner.
More than once this past July in Las Vegas during BCA week when I saw him outside on a smoke break he had no problem chit-chatting with me as we both toked away. I did however get the impression that his English wasn't all that great.
There are a small group of Filipinos that live in Houston (let's call them Teddy's Crew--> Teddy, Anthony, Rudy) who are a terrific group of guys that I consider to be my friends and who know all the Filipino players such as Efren, Busty, Warren, Dennis very well.......these players always stay with Teddy's crew when they are in Texas. But Teddy's group never boasts about their relationships with these superstars....they are too humble to do that.
A month ago Dennis won the Space City Open here very late on a Sunday night/early Monday morning. The following Tuesday Teddy's Crew (who also play in our BCA league) brings Dennis to our League Night. I for one thought this was the coolest thing ever. They are just sitting there talking an hour before our league begins and I'm hitting balls warming up when I look over at Dennis and hold up my iPhone and ask if he will take a couple of photos with me. He enthusiastically disengages himself from his conversation and runs over to my table and I have my picture taken with him. Then Dennis asks if I'm playing in the league and wishes me good luck. I'm pretty much in pool heaven now. I immediately send the photo attached here to my old pool buddies in Pittsburgh (where I lived until 4.5 years ago) and jokingly tell them I'm gonna "give this guy the wild 7 and 8 playing 7 ahead for $5K
). They of course text back encouraging comments like "nice headphones Guz" and "Bust him up Guz". Best league night ever basically.
The following Saturday I go to Nick's Lounge on Wilcrest for the weekly race to 2 8-Ball $10 entry tournament (which also has a $5k 10-ball break contest every week). Anyone can play and again I'm thrilled that Teddy's Crew has brought Dennis along to play. Dennis proceeds to go 2 and out shaking the girl's hand that beat him and also shaking the guy's hand who knocked him out (a player he could spot the 2 and out) and did not get chosen for the 10-ball break pot. He did, however, assist in securing a tight rack for the break pot when the tournament director solicited his racking advice. Thank God for us a dry break....sorry Wendell
. Dennis hung around for awhile talking with anyone who approached him both in the bar and outside on the back porch smoking.
I think Dennis left for Chicago or maybe Wisonsin for a big tournament after that. I look forward to seeing him the next time he is in Houston.
I form opinions about people by how my interactions with them unfold and of course as I quietly observe their interactions with others. I never saw Dennis behave badly. I will have to respectfully disagree.
I live in Houston, TX and over the last couple of years have played in a few tournaments in which Dennis has also played. The few times we have passed each other if I acknowledged/greeted him then he would always acknowledge/greet me in a polite and humble manner.
More than once this past July in Las Vegas during BCA week when I saw him outside on a smoke break he had no problem chit-chatting with me as we both toked away. I did however get the impression that his English wasn't all that great.
There are a small group of Filipinos that live in Houston (let's call them Teddy's Crew--> Teddy, Anthony, Rudy) who are a terrific group of guys that I consider to be my friends and who know all the Filipino players such as Efren, Busty, Warren, Dennis very well.......these players always stay with Teddy's crew when they are in Texas. But Teddy's group never boasts about their relationships with these superstars....they are too humble to do that.
A month ago Dennis won the Space City Open here very late on a Sunday night/early Monday morning. The following Tuesday Teddy's Crew (who also play in our BCA league) brings Dennis to our League Night. I for one thought this was the coolest thing ever. They are just sitting there talking an hour before our league begins and I'm hitting balls warming up when I look over at Dennis and hold up my iPhone and ask if he will take a couple of photos with me. He enthusiastically disengages himself from his conversation and runs over to my table and I have my picture taken with him. Then Dennis asks if I'm playing in the league and wishes me good luck. I'm pretty much in pool heaven now. I immediately send the photo attached here to my old pool buddies in Pittsburgh (where I lived until 4.5 years ago) and jokingly tell them I'm gonna "give this guy the wild 7 and 8 playing 7 ahead for $5K
). They of course text back encouraging comments like "nice headphones Guz" and "Bust him up Guz". Best league night ever basically.The following Saturday I go to Nick's Lounge on Wilcrest for the weekly race to 2 8-Ball $10 entry tournament (which also has a $5k 10-ball break contest every week). Anyone can play and again I'm thrilled that Teddy's Crew has brought Dennis along to play. Dennis proceeds to go 2 and out shaking the girl's hand that beat him and also shaking the guy's hand who knocked him out (a player he could spot the 2 and out) and did not get chosen for the 10-ball break pot. He did, however, assist in securing a tight rack for the break pot when the tournament director solicited his racking advice. Thank God for us a dry break....sorry Wendell
. Dennis hung around for awhile talking with anyone who approached him both in the bar and outside on the back porch smoking.I think Dennis left for Chicago or maybe Wisonsin for a big tournament after that. I look forward to seeing him the next time he is in Houston.
I form opinions about people by how my interactions with them unfold and of course as I quietly observe their interactions with others. I never saw Dennis behave badly. I will have to respectfully disagree.
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I don't get it
I think it would be better if the rule in leagues tournaments or whatever is no handshake,
no interaction, no anything after the match. Unscrew your cue and leave. If you want to
talk, shake hands, whatever, do it after you both leave the area. You both have a little
time to clam down, so if you feel you want to shake hands say a few words, fine. If not
fine. Leaping from your chair after you just lost, and running over to shake hands with
enthusiasm and eye contact so everyone will know what a good sport and all around
wonderful fellow you are is silly to me. Has any pro player ever complained about their
opponent not shaking their hand after beating them ? I wonder did they think, " If he
beats me I'm going to run as fast as I can to shake his hand, that'll show him".
jack
I think it would be better if the rule in leagues tournaments or whatever is no handshake,
no interaction, no anything after the match. Unscrew your cue and leave. If you want to
talk, shake hands, whatever, do it after you both leave the area. You both have a little
time to clam down, so if you feel you want to shake hands say a few words, fine. If not
fine. Leaping from your chair after you just lost, and running over to shake hands with
enthusiasm and eye contact so everyone will know what a good sport and all around
wonderful fellow you are is silly to me. Has any pro player ever complained about their
opponent not shaking their hand after beating them ? I wonder did they think, " If he
beats me I'm going to run as fast as I can to shake his hand, that'll show him".
jack
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A sad state of affairs.
A person's personality sullied and stained.
All because we fail to acknowledge cultural differences and being unaware of a person's background.
Only if people know about the difficulties he went through.
From childhood to his struggles early in his pool career.
A person's personality sullied and stained.
All because we fail to acknowledge cultural differences and being unaware of a person's background.
Only if people know about the difficulties he went through.
From childhood to his struggles early in his pool career.
Stop with the cultural differences already.... The man turns his head away in distain because he's a sore loser and for no other reason. Where in the world is it customary to turn your head away from a man while shaking his hand (NOWHERE) And for the record this is not just a Dennis thing.... a lot of pool players act this way. I probably should not have singled him out. Poor sportsmanship is not cultural.
When you're sad or sometimes even depressed about a loss, sportsmanship is the last thing on your mind. You have to remember these pro players are playing for rent, dinner, bills, it's not fun and games for them. They take a loss way more seriously than us casual league layers do.
The reason real professional sport players can shake their opponents hand after a loss with genuine enthusiasm and respect is because they know they're getting a definite check after its all said and done, win or lose.
Money changes everything.
How do you know he turned his head in "distain" (disdain)? Maybe he was just disgusted with himself for missing that easy shot after managing to come back from a deficit of 0-5. Surely you did not expect him to be enthusiastic and to be smiling after losing. From that brief few seconds you have already judged him and concluded that he is a poor sport and sore loser already?
Because he has done this every single time he loses to Shane. (every single time)
The only issue and I am not saying it isn't right. Sometimes when you shake your opponents hand and look them in the eye. They may have something to say. Whether it's good game or even sorry I got lucky. However you may be stewing over your mess up or their luck. Either way. They are in a good mood and maybe you aren't. Not sure what right or wrong.
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This is the second thread in less than a week trashing Filipino players. The other one was suggesting Efren should retire after beating Appleton on a 10' table because Efren's demeanor wasn't aesthetically pleasing.
I detect a pattern.
C'mon, let's not be being overly sensitive here.
The OP expressed his opinion on how *Dennis* (not all Filipino players) shakes hands. I happen to agree with the OP. Turning your head while shaking hands simply does not come across as very sportsmanlike. It's okay if you or anyone else disagrees with that.
Obviously we all have varying standards as to what constitutes sportsmanlike and unsportsmanlike behavior. Some have higher standards than others. Some professional sports have higher standards than others. If some want to hold pool players at a much lower standards than other more established sports/games (e.g. golf, tennis, snooker), then so be it.
(And FWIW, I'm of Filipino descent.)
Do Japanese players do that in Japan? If they do, then I'd do the same thing if playing a match in Japan, if that's the custom.I wonder how many American players bow at the waist after losing to a Japanese player.
Does it really matter? Lol.
Apparently, getting bent out of shape when a player doesn't shake the hand of an American, IS cultural.
Like seriously. Who gives a F&$@.
It's actually more entertaining for me to see someone all salty after a tough match, on the verge of a meltdown.
The fact that people get so upset over a f$&@ing handshake, like it's the end of the world as we know it, is just pathetic.
Like American players have never been rude before.
Hahahahahaha
People need to get a f$&@ing grip already
But never when he beats him. Shane walks up to you, shakes your hand, and says "good match" when you win, you walk away while giving him a dead fish when you lose. That's not a cultural difference in shaking hands.
Watch at the end when Dennis beats Shane in the One Pocket final here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx52x8zSdQU
It doesn't mean Dennis is Hitler. Just that he should work on that one thing. Nobody is perfect.
And this why pool culture is the way it is. Again, if some are okay with this status quo, then so be it.
I think American players are actually the biggest offenders of this. I really wish I didn't use Dennis as my example. The guy is an awesome champion and has my respect.