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When is Dennis gonna learn how to shake hands
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This is such a great post.
I would imagine we all do something that if others did it we'd find it annoying or disrespectful. I spend my time concerning myself with how I can be better, not how I believe others should be better or should behave.
"Manners make the man."
Yes, PM me to make me sure... wait, what?
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In general, there is practically no excuse for not shaking hands after a match. Hating to lose is no excuse. Many of us hate to lose with deep intensity, but we shake hands at the end.
The only exceptions are if one player has a cold or flu, or if your opponent did something unsportsmanlike to you during the match.
The only exceptions are if one player has a cold or flu, or if your opponent did something unsportsmanlike to you during the match.
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All of human culture is a fake, false exercise. Manners, law, civilization, communication. Every adult who doesn't throw a temper tantrum when something goes wrong is being fake. I'm sure Dennis wants to punch SVB in the face after he loses. Probably every highly competitive pool player feels the same way after every single loss. It's a fake false ritual to decline that impulse. But IMO those forced exercises are the most important things in life.
They are rivals, they have a big match coming up, if Dennis chose not to shake hands at all it would have been appropriate imo. It's not a big deal.
The fake shake means that much to you?
or maybe it's evolution. when our mothers didn't eat us at birth, what was that?
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Dennis did shake Shane's hand after the match. Some people just think it was not sincere, not too long and/or he did not look directly at Shane's eyes.
Yes, it is a big deal. Shake hands after your match!
haha how is this a thread. why make it your business to care how some guy shakes some other guy's hand? having an opinion on dennis orcollo's hand-shake style is... well, i don't know, embarrassing? what are people worried about here? maybe he's not a good sport, so what. why does he have to be a good sport? if you don't like him, then go on not liking him. don't propose he should have to shake hands a certain way.
Here's the thing that's baffling. Dennis didn't skip the fake ritual.
You're probably right, he probably wanted to kill something after losing that match.
But he resisted that impulse. Then he went the extra mile and shook hands,
fulfilling his social / sportsmanship obligation.
Why is that not enough?
Why does dennis also need to fake sincerity, enthusiasm, or enjoyment while doing it?
YES!! To me, respecting the game and your opponent is not talking during their shot. Not standing in their sight line, or otherwise interfering with their game. Forcing a handshake afterward doesn't change the way I feel about my opponent, and it doesn't change the way they feel about me. It is just some silly forced interaction that people think might prevent a fight or something? I don't know.
In my league matches 95% of the time I smile, and chat with the guy / gal after I lose. 5% of the time they were complete jack-holes during the match and I want nothing to do with them. I ONLY shake their hand because I am literally forced to by our league rules. If I don't I could be labeled a poor sport and banned from the league. How stupid is that?
I'm not going to start a fight if I don't shake a hand because I'm not a bad person. If I don't want to have contact with that person that should be my choice.
As far as Shane and Dennis goes, that's between them, not us. I think that when they are in the arena, and they have their game faces on, if they truly don't like each other, that's fine. They have to be fair (not interfering) but why on earth do we feel a need to force them to pretend to be friends.
So without false handshakes after a loss we devolve into anarchy? Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
Put it much better than I did. Great post.
They take off their hats because in the 1400's it was a way to show you didnt have a dragon concealed under your helmet.
Good point; two things: First, the limp hand while walking the other direction is a huge blinking neon “fock you” sign. It’s the difference between someone saying “thank you” in a polite way even if they don’t really want to, and someone saying “thank you” in an intentionally sarcastic, passive-aggressive tone. I think we’re losing basic common sense if we don’t see the difference.
Second, the discussion got more general than this specific handshake, and quite a few people in this thread actually have said they don’t believe in the “fake handshake” at all.