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WillyCornbread

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For those of you on the more hobbyist side of the cue making with small home workshops, how do you handle the dust issue?

My basic lathe from MidAmerica will be here next week and I'm going to prepare my workspace over the weekend.

Do you work with a mask/respirator all the time?

Do you have a fancy dust collecting system, or do you just use a fan to keep dust off the work, then a shop vac with dust handling filters to clean up afterwards?

Thank you for answering such a basic question,

b
 
Collection Hose <--> Dust Deputy <--> Shop Vac <--> HEPA Filter
My 2 cents,
Gary
 
GBCues said:
Collection Hose <--> Dust Deputy <--> Shop Vac <--> HEPA Filter
My 2 cents,
Gary
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Thanks, I was looking at the Dust Deputy, and I'm certain this is a stupid question but do you leave your shop vac running while working to pull dust from the air, or is this just your setup to clean the dust after a working session?

b
 
I don't use it to pull dust from the air.
I use it for cleanup after and I have rigged a dust collector on my router to pull dust while working.
HTH
Gary
 
I wear a filtered respirator from Lowes. It has replaceable filters. I wear it when cutting or sanding.

I shovel up the chips when they are about a foot deep.............. that's my dust collection system...............

LOL


Kim
 
WillyCornbread said:
Thanks, I was looking at the Dust Deputy, and I'm certain this is a stupid question but do you leave your shop vac running while working to pull dust from the air, or is this just your setup to clean the dust after a working session?

b
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If you can't catch it before it gets airborne around your shop, I'd suggest a respirator.
 
Vacumaid over ShopVac any day.
Dust Deputy is a must.
The money u saved on bags pay for it in a year.
 
Large 4" cyclone systems mounted outside your shop with blast gates at every machine will be your best bet. IMO

I bought a old ugly 6 X 12 enclosed trailer for 500.00 and it sits behind my shop with my two systems in there. No worry of dust or plugging up filters all the time. Dust goes away from the shop.

Rick
 
"" For those of you on the more hobbyist side of the cue making with small home workshops, how do you handle the dust issue?

My basic lathe from MidAmerica will be here next week and I'm going to prepare my workspace over the weekend.

Do you work with a mask/respirator all the time? VERY GOOD IDEA! YES!!

Do you have a fancy dust collecting system, or do you just use a fan to keep dust off the work, then a shop vac with dust handling filters to clean up afterwards? For the hobbyist there are some very affordable smaller dust collection systems available check with Rockler

Thank you for answering such a basic question,""
 
JoeyInCali said:
Vacumaid over ShopVac any day.
Dust Deputy is a must.
The money u saved on bags pay for it in a year.
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Which shop vac do you feel the Vacumaid is better than and why?
I notice Vacumaid provides no specs at all for efficiency other than claiming that it's a "HEPA" bag.

A quick browse of filter catalogues or even Ebay reveals that some filters with relatively poor (5 micron) effective pore size are still called "HEPA". The specs read something like "X % of particles X size and larger" are captured.

My Fein shop vac removes 99.97% of particles 0.3 micron and larger. Can the Vacumaid even approach that with just that bag as a filter? Also, it seems as if the surface area of the bag would be tiny compared to a pleated paper filter.

I'm always looking for something better but a Vacumaid does not seem to be it.

Dust Deputy is great for getting the big chunks out but is nothing like a high-spec HEPA filter.

Robin Snyder
 
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carguy said:
Which shop vac do you feel the Vacumaid is better than and why?
I notice Vacumaid provides no specs at all for efficiency other than claiming that it's a "HEPA" bag.

A quick browse of filter catalogues or even Ebay reveals that some filters with relatively poor (5 micron) effective pore size are still called "HEPA". The specs read something like "X % of particles X size and larger" are captured.

My Fein shop vac removes 99.97% of particles 0.3 micron and larger. Can the Vacumaid even approach that with just that bag as a filter? Also, it seems as if the surface area of the bag would be tiny compared to a pleated paper filter.

I'm always looking for something better but a Vacumaid does not seem to be it.

Dust Deputy is great for getting the big chunks out but is nothing like a high-spec HEPA filter.

Robin Snyder
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" One 7 gallon 5-layer HEPA-style bag with a fine particle filtration up to 99.98% (HPB2H) "
It's gives my Ridgid Shop Vac the orange crush. And it's freaking strong and a lot more quiet.
I blew the motor once b/c I did not notice the bag was almost full and I still used it with the dust deputy and kept on tapering .
They sent me a new motor . I installed it myself.
You can also run a hose on the exhaust port.
 
JoeyInCali said:
" One 7 gallon 5-layer HEPA-style bag with a fine particle filtration up to 99.98% (HPB2H) "
It's gives my Ridgid Shop Vac the orange crush. And it's freaking strong and a lot more quiet.
I blew the motor once b/c I did not notice the bag was almost full and I still used it with the dust deputy and kept on tapering .
They sent me a new motor . I installed it myself.
You can also run a hose on the exhaust port.
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Pretty impressive numbers for a bag type filter.

I guess the Dust Deputy was overfilled when the vac bag filled up. I've done that a few times too. Not good. No blown motor though.
I still don't see how they keep the small pores clean for very long with that little surface area.
One could add a gauge easily enough. When the pressure drop across the filter exceeded some pre-determined amount we would know it's time to service the filter. Then we would have to remember to check the gauge...damn, it's always something!

And you are right about the noise. My Fein is only ~ 60db and I love it.

Robin Snyder
 
Best thing I ever did was run a hose from the exhaust to the outside along with using a HEPA bag.

Mario
 
JoeyInCali said:
" One 7 gallon 5-layer HEPA-style bag with a fine particle filtration up to 99.98% (HPB2H) "
It's gives my Ridgid Shop Vac the orange crush. And it's freaking strong and a lot more quiet.
I blew the motor once b/c I did not notice the bag was almost full and I still used it with the dust deputy and kept on tapering .
They sent me a new motor . I installed it myself.
You can also run a hose on the exhaust port.
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My 3hp cyclone can suck up small animals and shoot them outside...
 
JoeyInCali said:
" One 7 gallon 5-layer HEPA-style bag with a fine particle filtration up to 99.98% (HPB2H) "
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Not to beat it to death, but I've been back to the Vacumaid site a few times now. I keep seeing that same 99.98% mentioned but that's only half of a statistic for measuring a filter's effectiveness. It doesn't mention particle size at all unless I missed it. Those bags may well filter out 99.98% of the birds and squirrels, but for really small particles, 0.3 microns or so, I've never seen a bag filter that can perform at that level. My guess is that they are rated at 5 microns. Perhaps I'm wrong. That would be great.

Those really small particles, 5 microns down, are the worst ones for us to breathe. I worry about it.

My vacuum's filter is rated at a very high percentage (99.97%?) of 0.3 micron particles, and that's without the Dust Deputy. That's with a pleated paper HEPA filter and a non-HEPA paper bag. I can't give an actual measurement of the exhaust because my particle counter is in for repair.

I just want everyone to stay healthy.

Robin Snyder
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carguy said:
JoeyInCali said:
" One 7 gallon 5-layer HEPA-style bag with a fine particle filtration up to 99.98% (HPB2H) "
QUOTE]

Not to beat it to death, but I've been back to the Vacumaid site a few times now. I keep seeing that same 99.98% mentioned but that's only half of a statistic for measuring a filter's effectiveness. It doesn't mention particle size at all unless I missed it. Those bags may well filter out 99.98% of the birds and squirrels, but for really small particles, 0.3 microns or so, I've never seen a bag filter that can perform at that level. My guess is that they are rated at 5 microns. Perhaps I'm wrong. That would be great.

Those really small particles, 5 microns down, are the worst ones for us to breathe. I worry about it.

My vacuum's filter is rated at a very high percentage (99.97%?) of 0.3 micron particles, and that's without the Dust Deputy. That's with a pleated paper HEPA filter and a non-HEPA paper bag. I can't give an actual measurement of the exhaust because my particle counter is in for repair.

I just want everyone to stay healthy.

Robin Snyder
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It better be good. Fkkrs are expensive .
I've recycled one or two. I emptied the inside and vacuumed it.
Fine particles are stuck in the foam liner, some mesh and the outside .
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WillyCornbread said:
For those of you on the more hobbyist side of the cue making with small home workshops, how do you handle the dust issue?

My basic lathe from MidAmerica will be here next week and I'm going to prepare my workspace over the weekend.

Do you work with a mask/respirator all the time?

Do you have a fancy dust collecting system, or do you just use a fan to keep dust off the work, then a shop vac with dust handling filters to clean up afterwards?

Thank you for answering such a basic question,

b
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This is what I use and I consider myself on the hobbyist side of things. Can never be careful enough with the dust. I use a homebuilt down draft box for ALL of my sanding and I put the air cleaner right above the most dust creating lathe. I try to collect as much chips/dust as I can before it goes airborne. I also use a trash can cyclone lid with a baffle to catch all the heavy stuff so it won't clog the hepa filter I have on the collector. My system is piped around the shop to 5 stations.
Dave







 
I have one of those Jet air filters and the stupid circuit board stopped working. Now it's hard wired. I also have a JDS and a Powermatic. The Powermatic is easily the nicest and best built.
 
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