Interesting cue on ebay

Well, if Cornbread played it, it wasn't for long, at least the butt. Those finished-wrap Meucci's tend to show their age at the wrap area. This one doesn't. The shaft does show a lot of play. Could be by anybody. I see this one as somewhat suspect.

All the best,
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That's pretty cool. Heard many story's of this man, before my time. Woulda sucked to run into him in a pool hall
 
PhilosopherKing said:
Who would you suggest to appraise a cue for probably largest and most respected purveyor in the business? ...Leigh and Leslie Keno? ...Should he take it to the Roadshow?

I suppose in cases like this, an appraisal is synonymous with a retail price.

By the way, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the mention of a self-appraised value isn't in bad taste.
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Well, I don't think we can say it is synonymous with the retail price. The cue is selling at auction. If the seller put it on their web site or Ebay with that price on it I might agree.

Who would I suggest? I was hoping nobody would ask. But I will give my thoughts.

I feel there are three options that would be more proper or legitimate:

1) Provide a formal signed appraisal document from the person who did the appraisal cited in the auction. And provide a photograph of that document.

I admit, such a document may be part of the deal, but the seller never said so, nor did they provide a picture of such a document.

2) Simply say that the seller feels the value is what they say it is based on their experience, note their experience level, and cite some similar examples, kind of like showing real estate comparables. Avoid calling it an appraisal.

3) Pay another independent expert a fee for an appraisal and provide that appraisal document. That will probably cost anywhere from $30-$150. If the cue is truly worth several thousand, then it is worth a formal independent appraisal.


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who can do an appraisal on the cue though? some other retailer? Cornerstone is the seller and appraiser in this case . So is he supposed to get a letter from Joe Van? It's dicey because it's a production cue from a company that is still in the business, they could make 2000 just like it
 
It doesn't say anything about gambling with the cue at all, just that it was his, in his personal collection as one of his players. If that is the case just look at some of the cues we each have that will not ever be put in a case, hit a pool hall or even play with. He gave it away to his daughter, it was not his daily player. But I do believe it is was his, just not the cue he would of used at anytime during his career.
 
noMoreSchon said:
It doesn't say anything about gambling with the cue at all, just that it was his, in his personal collection as one of his players. If that is the case just look at some of the cues we each have that will not ever be put in a case, hit a pool hall or even play with. He gave it away to his daughter, it was not his daily player. But I do believe it is was his, just not the cue he would of used at anytime during his career.
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I agree, that seems to be the case.
 
noMoreSchon said:
It doesn't say anything about gambling with the cue at all, just that it was his, in his personal collection as one of his players. If that is the case just look at some of the cues we each have that will not ever be put in a case, hit a pool hall or even play with. He gave it away to his daughter, it was not his daily player. But I do believe it is was his, just not the cue he would of used at anytime during his career.
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"This cue has a lot of table time on it and has a roll out, but it is all original and unrestored we watched him clean up Keith "earthquake" McCready in Michigan for 20,000 and beat the MIZ in Ohio with this very cue"
 
I wouldn't put a top end on the value. Value is in the eye of the bidder. If it was a cue used by a friend of mine, and I wanted it, there would be no ceiling. How many people do you think grew up around his legend, and maybe the man himself? It will bring a good number, and will be worth it to whoever buys it.
Sentimental value is exponential.
 
DawgAndy said:
"This cue has a lot of table time on it and has a roll out, but it is all original and unrestored we watched him clean up Keith "earthquake" McCready in Michigan for 20,000 and beat the MIZ in Ohio with this very cue"
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How much weight was he getting though !
 
13 minutes. Surely it can't sell for 1/10th the appraised value....

Should I jump on it? :confused:



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$699.05


So what of the appraisal?

Does this mean anything at all?

Just wondering out loud.....




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Wish I could get lucky like that selling cues....:frown:


What a fool to pay that much unless it was a relative or good friend.





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poolguy4u said:
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Wish I could get lucky like that selling cues....:frown:


What a fool to pay that much unless it was a relative or good friend.





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It was owned by Cornbread Red supposedly.

I have a cue that was used by Pancake Willy that I'll sell for less. It doesn't come with a COA, but I'll throw in a box of Aunt Jemima and a bottle of Mrs Buttersworth if you pay in cash.
 
asiasdad said:
It means it was a big load of marketing
bull$hit like far too many cues for sale.
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Then what of the reputation of the seller and the "Appraiser"?

We were told by one poster:
The seller is the operator of cornerstonecustomcues.com. He's on the up and up.
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Does not marketing bull$hit have something to do with reputation?

The sole remaining Meucci on their website is listed for $16,500.00

Surely in business it is reasonable to try to maximize what one can get for something sold. But presenting an "appraisal" that is so far off speaks of something else perhaps.

I don't know. I am asking. Or perhaps just thinking aloud.....


I mean, we on AZB often criticize sellers like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bru...982969?hash=item3d13d8d6f9:g:MDIAAOSwZ8ZW3yri

But the reality is that the seller's assessment of value is similar in the proportion of the error. That seller is very likely merely misled and ignorant regarding matters of pool cues. Was the seller of the Meucci misled and ignorant of matters regarding pool cues?




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