Is it common for Schon cues to have warped forearms?

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justinb386

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UPDATE: The seller made me a very generous offer that made me really happy, and I am now very happy with the deal and the cue. Thanks for all of your helpful replies about the cue.

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I took a video of a Schon that I recently purchased from a member on here (received the cue yesterday), and the forearm appears be be warped (the tiniest of a bit).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-i46Q0AjGc&feature=youtu.be

Maybe the tiny bit of light that I see under the joint and forearm is not that uncommon, because other then that, the cue seems to roll pretty straight, and the tips of both shafts remain flat on the table when they are rolled.

The butt not rolling perfectly straight just annoys me though.

I am losing faith in expecting Schon cues to have perfectly straight butts.

It seems like the forearm is just the smallest bit off, but not enough to affect the roll of the shafts when connected together with the butt.

Is this something that most cue owners would not notice? I imagine they would, so I would never misrepresent a cue that I was selling in any way. I always try to be as honest as possible about the roll of a cue.

In your opinion, do these roll tests prove that the cue is warped, or is it maybe just a taper issue with the forearm?

Thanks for any thoughts about this.
 
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i bought over 200 of them and never had a problem
but i found that they always stood behind their product

i made friends with Terry,Runde ,Evan and John,these guys are top notch or were when there
i think you should have called them instead of putting this thread up
since you asked
the roll test would have revealed the same results with ever Gina cue i ever got.
Ernie has an explanation that i can not understand ,but I am sure he is right too

call schon,everyone on here knows they build a great product and always have

ask for john and see what he can do for you
 
Looks like a problem to me and I wouldn't be happy with it. I've owned 3-4 schons and they didn't roll like that. I also have a early Gina that doesn't roll like that either. Not that it matters. I'd be looking to return the cue if it wasn't noted when you agreed to acquire it. That's just me though. Either way, good luck with it.
 
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justinb386 said:
I took a video of a Schon that I recently purchased from a member on here (received the cue yesterday), and the forearm appears be be warped (the tiniest of a bit).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-i46Q0AjGc&feature=youtu.be

Maybe the tiny bit of light that I see under the joint and forearm is not that uncommon, because other then that, the cue seems to roll pretty straight, and the tips of both shafts remain flat on the table when they are rolled.

The butt not rolling perfectly straight just annoys me though.

I am losing faith in expecting Schon cues to have perfectly straight butts.

It seems like the forearm is just the smallest bit off, but not enough to affect the roll of the shafts when connected together with the butt.

Is this something that most cue owners would not notice? I imagine they would, so I would never misrepresent a cue that I was selling in any way. I always try to be as honest as possible about the roll of a cue.

In your opinion, do these roll tests prove that the cue is warped, or is it maybe just a taper issue with the forearm?

Thanks for any thoughts about this.
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Not trying to ne rude Justin but do you know how to look at a cue and tell if it was left in a car on a extremely hot day ?

Because I would be willing to bet your cue has been left in a car at some point and time ...

And once again not trying to be rude but I have to question your overall cue knowledge ,by the fact of how many questions you ask about pool cues ..

Just because the forearm is warped doesn't mean Schon cues have there head up there @sses when they made your's
 
Dave-Kat said:
Well said Dean. Saw the video. I say its the table.

-Late,
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Table? Man are you in denial.

EVERY cue maker is gonna have this happen eventually, so you guys can climb off the nuts and quit telling this guy he's in the wrong.
Jason
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
Not trying to ne rude Justin but do you know how to look at a cue and tell if it was left in a car on a extremely hot day ?

Because I would be willing to bet your cue has been left in a car at some point and time ...

And once again not trying to be rude but I have to question your overall cue knowledge ,by the fact of how many questions you ask about pool cues ..

Just because the forearm is warped doesn't mean Schon cues have there head up there @sses when they made your's
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Please tell us all cause I've owned a lot of cues and have played in a lot of pool rooms and have NEVER ONCE heard somebody say - hey look at that cue, it's been left in the car on a hot day, you can tell by......
Jason
 
So, you guys are saying if you got this cue you would be happy? If your new(or used) $10,000 Szamboti showed up like that you'd be ok with it? Didn't think so
Jason
 
justinb386 said:
I took a video of a Schon that I recently purchased from a member on here (received the cue yesterday), and the forearm appears be be warped (the tiniest of a bit).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-i46Q0AjGc&feature=youtu.be

Maybe the tiny bit of light that I see under the joint and forearm is not that uncommon, because other then that, the cue seems to roll pretty straight, and the tips of both shafts remain flat on the table when they are rolled.

The butt not rolling perfectly straight just annoys me though.

I am losing faith in expecting Schon cues to have perfectly straight butts.

It seems like the forearm is just the smallest bit off, but not enough to affect the roll of the shafts when connected together with the butt.

Is this something that most cue owners would not notice? I imagine they would, so I would never misrepresent a cue that I was selling in any way. I always try to be as honest as possible about the roll of a cue.

In your opinion, do these roll tests prove that the cue is warped, or is it maybe just a taper issue with the forearm?

Thanks for any thoughts about this.
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this cue is not rolling normal.

best,
brian kc
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
Not trying to ne rude Justin but do you know how to look at a cue and tell if it was left in a car on a extremely hot day ?

Because I would be willing to bet your cue has been left in a car at some point and time ...

And once again not trying to be rude but I have to question your overall cue knowledge ,by the fact of how many questions you ask about pool cues ..

Just because the forearm is warped doesn't mean Schon cues have there head up there @sses when they made your's
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Yeah, I admit that I am not too bright about cues. I guess I was wrong to think that Schon may be doing something wrong in their cue making process, but this is the 3rd Schon that I have purchased that had a roll in the forearm. I understand that a roll out this small will not affect a players game, but I think it will affect my efforts at trying to sell the cue. I imagine that leaving a cue in the trunk of a car all night in freezing weather, or all day in 100 degree weather (for example) might actually warp a cue much worse then the roll out that I see in the Schon cue that I have. Thanks for your reply.
 
deanoc said:
i bought over 200 of them and never had a problem
but i found that they always stood behind their product

i made friends with Terry,Runde ,Evan and John,these guys are top notch or were when there
i think you should have called them instead of putting this thread up
since you asked
the roll test would have revealed the same results with ever Gina cue i ever got.
Ernie has an explanation that i can not understand ,but I am sure he is right too

call schon,everyone on here knows they build a great product and always have

ask for john and see what he can do for you
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I believe you. I think that I have just been unlucky with Schon cues. I am really sorry if I offended Schon in any way. That was not my intention. Was mainly just curious on opinions about the roll of the cue. Might be a finish issue (part of the finish being thinner up near the joint?), or maybe other issue (other then the butt being warped). Maybe the best and only way to test the straightness of a cue is on a lathe. Again, I am sorry if I offended Schon. I always loved their cues. Thanks for your reply.
 
SCHON warped forearms are NOT common

NOT usual, esp for the crooked ones

the crooked ones, with shafts that were hand sanded to under 11mm, chipped butt caps and in desperate need of re-finishing don't, as a rule, bring top $$$ on the secondary market
 
the only point i was making
if the cue was this way when you got it or soon thereafter
it is best to return it to the maker

many people just like to knock cue makers and i apologize
if i was out of line
further point was that schons are one of the best cues made and they seldom have problems
in fact i have only seen a few and insignificant problems with them over the years

plus i an no longer doing anything with schon,but i might in the future
they treated me great for years

they even made some special edition models that i loved
 
jasonlaus said:
So, you guys are saying if you got this cue you would be happy? If your new(or used) $10,000 Szamboti showed up like that you'd be ok with it? Didn't think so
Jason
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Thanks for your replies Jason. I got the cue at a decent price, and a partial refund on top of that, so I am still okay with the deal, but just a little annoyed about the joint issue that I see yet again on another Schon that I have purchased. I should not blame Schon though. Maybe customers just do not take very good care of their Schon cues. They are not all that high end after all. I think the cue is still fairly straight (seeing that the tip still remains flat on the table when the cue is rolled). A badly warped butt would affect the roll of the shaft pretty badly, in my experience. Anyways, sorry to Schon (and all Schon fans) for creating this thread. I am sure this issue is not Schons fault.
 
deanoc said:
the only point i was making
if the cue was this way when you got it or soon thereafter
it is best to return it to the maker

many people just like to knock cue makers and i apologize
if i was out of line
further point was that schons are one of the best cues made and they seldom have problems
in fact i have only seen a few and insignificant problems with them over the years

plus i an no longer doing anything with schon,but i might in the future
they treated me great for years

they even made some special edition models that i loved
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Those spliced cues you had were DYNO, consumers got a GREAT value based on your price points
 
ribdoner said:
NOT usual, esp for the crooked ones

the crooked ones, with shafts that were hand sanded to under 11mm, chipped butt caps and in desperate need of re-finishing don't, as a rule, bring top $$$ on the secondary market
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Lol, the "hand sanded to under 11mm" comment made me laugh, because I was that way with all my cues as a kid. I would hand sand the hell out of them. I had a Jackson cue that started at around 13mm, and after a few years, I got it hand sanded down to around 11mm (or maybe less). Sounds like I might have a hard time selling the cue. Maybe better off keeping it, if I like the way it shoots.
 
deanoc said:
the only point i was making
if the cue was this way when you got it or soon thereafter
it is best to return it to the maker

many people just like to knock cue makers and i apologize
if i was out of line
further point was that schons are one of the best cues made and they seldom have problems
in fact i have only seen a few and insignificant problems with them over the years

plus i an no longer doing anything with schon,but i might in the future
they treated me great for years

they even made some special edition models that i loved
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Yeah, I think that the cue was just mistreated, and not cared for very well.
 
deanoc said:
the only point i was making
if the cue was this way when you got it or soon thereafter
it is best to return it to the maker

many people just like to knock cue makers and i apologize
if i was out of line
further point was that schons are one of the best cues made and they seldom have problems
in fact i have only seen a few and insignificant problems with them over the years

plus i an no longer doing anything with schon,but i might in the future
they treated me great for years

they even made some special edition models that i loved
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You were not out of line. I should have worded my thread differently, and changed the title to something like "help with opinions about the roll of my Schon cue". Thanks.
 
justinb386 said:
I took a video of a Schon that I recently purchased from a member on here (received the cue yesterday), and the forearm appears be be warped (the tiniest of a bit).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-i46Q0AjGc&feature=youtu.be

Maybe the tiny bit of light that I see under the joint and forearm is not that uncommon, because other then that, the cue seems to roll pretty straight, and the tips of both shafts remain flat on the table when they are rolled.

The butt not rolling perfectly straight just annoys me though.

I am losing faith in expecting Schon cues to have perfectly straight butts.

It seems like the forearm is just the smallest bit off, but not enough to affect the roll of the shafts when connected together with the butt.

Is this something that most cue owners would not notice? I imagine they would, so I would never misrepresent a cue that I was selling in any way. I always try to be as honest as possible about the roll of a cue.

In your opinion, do these roll tests prove that the cue is warped, or is it maybe just a taper issue with the forearm?

Thanks for any thoughts about this.
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snap it, burn it, toss it.
 
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