(FAQ) How do you use the tangent line?
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Back to the OP. Following the link and what was diagramed I think I have a pretty good handle on changing the tangent line. In the diagram depending on where the next object ball I want to pocket is I would either shorten or lengthen the tangent line to avoid the scratch.
As I understand it, speed of the table, cloth, rails and speed of hit come into play. I prefer not to make whitie move to much unless I absolutely have to. Not to make light of the subject I don't take a protractor to the pool hall. I just finger it out to the best of my ability.
As I understand it, speed of the table, cloth, rails and speed of hit come into play. I prefer not to make whitie move to much unless I absolutely have to. Not to make light of the subject I don't take a protractor to the pool hall. I just finger it out to the best of my ability.
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Depending on your life experiences, occupation, hobbies, etc...recognition and visualization of right angles/90 degrees/tangent lines at the pool table can be easy or not.
If one can see that a picture frame is hung 'straight'...close enough in my book.
I agree that given a nearly equal choice of little or a lot of cb travel for shape...less is more.
It is in those cases that call for lots of cb travel, that recognizing, using and modifying tangent line paths, combined with spin, cushions and speed, getting us around the table.
Especially, when the rock wants to roll...give it some quidance...then let it go.
Passing this tidbit along to new players, is the biggest favor you can pass along to new players.
Exactly! Which is why the 90/30 rule is the easiest way to help people understand (and demonstrate) the difference between a sliding and rolling CB.
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A good example of how quickly you can get the cue ball off of the tangent line is hitting a shot about a ball off the long rail where the cue ball would normally scratch. You can avoid the scratch with slow speed and a lot of draw, once you try it it gets pretty amazing that you can avoid what looks like a definite scratch.
Good write-up and illustrations, Allan.
FYI, to those interested, I also cover this and related topics in great detail with video demonstrations, illustrations, and complete sets of instructional articles on the following resource pages:
90-degree rule
30-degree rule
CB trajectory speed effects
where the CB goes for different cases
Regards,
Dave
Allan,
This is true, technically speaking; but for all practical purposes, with slow-rolling shots (very common in good pool play), the CB heads in the 30-degree natural-angle direction pretty much immediately after it comes off the OB.
Also, as others have pointed out, with straight (and nearly straight) stop, follow, and draw shots, the CB doesn't really head down the tangent line at all.
I know you know all of this, but it has apparently caused some confusion.
Regards,
Dave
You create the tangent line it doesn’t create you.
The tangent line may be the most simple part of a pool shot to understand next to make sure you have at least one eye open. It's really simple stuff even for beginners to learn, non pool players can learn it in 5 minutes with 1/2 a brain.
It's all about the cue ball. When you control the cue ball you own the tangent line, it’s a blur.
When you master the stroke, speed, spin, tip placement around the clocks, you have total control of where you want to send the cue ball; you control the lines you want.
We are constantly altering the natural line through stroke technique, cutting across the angle is everyday life, and we play for those across angles, its part of pool and position play. You better know your spin and cue ball, especially when cutting across.
In four hours of play count how many times you landed natural roll forward or had to make adjustments off the line. How many times you have to get in the second line to gain position.
Watch top players and you hear how great they move the cue ball, you never hear how well they use the tangent line. The best players land on the roll line more often (not as often as you think) because of their cue ball control. I believe controlling the secondary line is more important than the tangent, especially when cutting across.
Learn 3 cushion billiards and master the cue ball. You will learn the cue ball at warp speed compared to the alternative methods of learning; the tangent line becomes a pimple on an elephant's ass. Your safety game will jump 10 notches while your cousin is concerned how many degrees the tangent line is.
It's all about the cue ball and how to alter the lines to get in your tracks.
He who has the best cue ball today usually wins.
The tangent line may be the most simple part of a pool shot to understand next to make sure you have at least one eye open. It's really simple stuff even for beginners to learn, non pool players can learn it in 5 minutes with 1/2 a brain.
It's all about the cue ball. When you control the cue ball you own the tangent line, it’s a blur.
When you master the stroke, speed, spin, tip placement around the clocks, you have total control of where you want to send the cue ball; you control the lines you want.
We are constantly altering the natural line through stroke technique, cutting across the angle is everyday life, and we play for those across angles, its part of pool and position play. You better know your spin and cue ball, especially when cutting across.
In four hours of play count how many times you landed natural roll forward or had to make adjustments off the line. How many times you have to get in the second line to gain position.
Watch top players and you hear how great they move the cue ball, you never hear how well they use the tangent line. The best players land on the roll line more often (not as often as you think) because of their cue ball control. I believe controlling the secondary line is more important than the tangent, especially when cutting across.
Learn 3 cushion billiards and master the cue ball. You will learn the cue ball at warp speed compared to the alternative methods of learning; the tangent line becomes a pimple on an elephant's ass. Your safety game will jump 10 notches while your cousin is concerned how many degrees the tangent line is.
It's all about the cue ball and how to alter the lines to get in your tracks.
He who has the best cue ball today usually wins.
Thank you Dave! That is all I was saying in my first post in this thread. I thought the difference between sliding and rolling CB's wasn't made clear enough for some players to understand. :thumbup:
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Allen, I would listen to everything Mr. Scott Lee says. Master Troll.
So, you disagree with what Dr. Dave says, huh Pool Chump? You better stick to the ram shot...something that you know about. :rotflmao1: Sheesh, talk about trolls. :banghead:
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Get rid of your bias & perhaps you will use more objective comprehension.
As usual... a very TRUE post & one that can be very helpful if one takes heed.
What you speak of is why I started spinning the CB at age 13 after seeing an elderly gentleman do so & coming up with easy shot after easy shot after easy shot.
It is also why I am glad that I saw that & started spinning the CB a few years before my first physics class.
IMO, as soon as one can pocket anything close to a spot shot they should start learning how to control the path of the CB & to MAKE it do what they want instead of letting it dictate the path by its natural tangent line, roll outcome, etc.
I have never checked for or looked for any '30*' natural rolling line.
As SS says the game rarely has runs where most if ANY of the shots should be played with 'natural' lines. As a player, one is almost always enhancing the line away from the 'natural' lines.
Anyway, Another Good & Truthful Post, Michael.
Best Wishes for You & Yours...& All,
Rick
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An expected response from a troubled person.
Amazing how you know so much about Scott, yet have been a member here for a month.
Quick study.
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I don't know him and would never wish to. His responses speaks for himself and I won't play.
You obviously have other accounts on here. And are just trolling. Won't be long before the mods get rid of you.
How do you get that red thumbs down in there?
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