Have you ever transitioned well to playing with a bumperless cue?
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So you have obviously pulled your bumpers off and felt the difference?
Yes, and swapped in phenolic bumpers for the protection of a bumper but the response of a bumperless cue.
Also, Willie Hoppe Professional cues with and without a bumper are night and day. Those are my favorite old players.
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Obviously, since I play snooker a lot, I'm used to not having a bumper (most snooker cues have extensions in the butt, but not all). However I do prefer bumpers over no bumpers. Most cues make an annoying bzzz sound at the end of the hit without the bumper and I find it unpleasant to listen to. The performance is not changed, so it's not a huge deal, anyway.
Well actually, the noise that was suppressed was from the bottom of the cue hitting the floor, not from the top of the cue hitting the ball.
Dale
What?????
Sometimes the bumper has fallen off my cues and other times
I forget to put in on there if I've been playing with weight bolts.
I've never noticed one of the smallest possible measurements
of a difference in the hit.
Most of time I realized the bumper was missing because it was
still on my table when I came back home.
Wow.....people are seriously sensitive about this stuff on here .
I mean noticing something like that is out of this world.
This is like the guys who say they notice difference in play based
on what joint is on the cue.
I've tried ALL the different joints and have never noticed that they
have anything to do with what I feel...... you guys are amazing.
That's all I can say.
Before some of you get your panties in a twist, that's a compliment.
I love my bumperless jim pierce. there is a difference in the amount of vibration in your hand. I even think it sounds different...could be the ferrule tip combo but having no bumper could allow for some extra acoustics. its not difficult to get used to...certainly an easier transition than laminated to maple shafts and vice versa. I would recommend one only bc I could see that the more you can feel the more easily you can adjust. I could be wrong I'm no expert but I do enjoy the hell out of my bumperless pierce
right on 9ballr...... a .25 rubber bumper and he we go.
I'm blown away by this thread, I didn't realize bumperless cues were noisey. Now I hate mine. Including the Sly I had made last year. Who wants them. Free to a good home.
Let's expand the conversation. i would like hear from a reputable cue maker that the bumper serves no other purpose than to protect the butt cap from the floor and or it puts the finishing touch on the butt end covering the weight bolt hole. Fair enough.
To the OP....please post the cue your looking at. Would like to see it.
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I do wonder...... How good of a vibrator my cue will be........
No seriously Justin, I'm just playin. Truth is, as I have stated many times I have played MANY $1000 sets with a house cue. I can tell ya some of the best house cues off the wall have not had " bumpers ". Infact a few of the best ones actually had something loose inside. No idear what it was, but every shot I shot there was something loose INSIDE the cue and rolled around EVERY SHOT. To be more accurate, it was more of a thud. Every stroke forward caused something of some mass to move forward and abrubrly stop, causing a thud. Once again, no idea what it was but I didn't care. I GOT RHE CASH!!. Nobody else wanted to play with rhis cue but me. Us regulars used to " hide " our special house cues around the pool room. Most times they were safe. Sometimes we would hide then in the back room, until it took up too much space and someone would finally put them all back! DICKS!!! LOL! So we all had a special way of " marking " OUR cues. Bottom line is this Justin, really unsure of what you are asking but foe sure you can tell the difference about a cue without a bumper. Also bottom line, I've played some of my most expensive sets, some of the bed pool IVE EVER PLAYED, and some of my biggest SCORES have come with a cue with NO BUMPER!!!!!!
justinb386
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Well, it is true that different types of joints give different types of a hit. Any decent pool player (who has played with many cues, with different joints) would agree with me on that, I think. Like a Schon cue for example. It uses a piloted 5/16x14 joint, and usually has a very tight fit. Schon cues give off a very stiff hit for that reason. On the other hand, McDermott cues (or any cue that uses the 3/8x10 wood to wood joint pin) gives a much softer hit, I think. The joint plays a big roll in the type of hit (or feedback) that you are going to receive from a cue. I have learned that the tip plays the biggest roll in the type of tip that you will receive (this is something that I did not think about for a very long time).
justinb386
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Thanks for the story about your experience with bumperless cues.
On the subject of house cues, my favorite house cues were the old Valley Supreme house cues. I loved them because they had a pretty thin grip (not really fat, like a lot of other Valley house cues that were made), and a nice long taper in the shaft (that made them great players, for me).
Let's do the blindfold test. If you can tell the difference I'll give you my cues
Noise suppressors or sales manure
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I would be very surprised if I couldn't tell the hit of a bumperless cue.
I had a snooker cue for years that had a glue-on bumper...about once a year it would fall off....and I would know on the first hit....it was like losing the muffler on your car.
A strange cue with an ivory ferrule might confuse me...'cause they are loud at the tip end.
What kind of black wrap on the schon, looks really well done.
I play with a Schon Hoppe and I have no problems with it
Leather wrap. Not sure what kind it is.
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Let's do the blindfold test. If you can tell the difference I'll give you my cues
Noise suppressors or sales manure
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.it was like losing the muffler on your car.
I have an 02 Stang with an X pipe, pair of Borlas..... oops Hijack
Seriously now I understand why my hearing is going. But a bumper on a Schmelke or Duff conversion would be a terrible thing to waste.
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as is said that all cues strive to be one piece, i think one of the higher eschelons of cues are the bumperless hoppe style. Not talking about players that will destroy one but bumperless is how a cue should be made imop.
like the perfect cue....has to be bumperless lol...personal opinion of course....but still. No bumper for realzzzz
like the perfect cue....has to be bumperless lol...personal opinion of course....but still. No bumper for realzzzz
Not necessarily bad but I think only the cheapest of cues come without a bumper. Like cheap cheap. I remember even my first cue from Kmart came with a rubber. It can't be that expensive so I don't see why they all can't put them on especially with the price of some cues. I think petroleum is used so maybe that is the reason for the cost cutting.