Diamond harder then GC %

[measureman]

I know a Diamond table verses a GC is a little harder.
I was practicing straight pool on a Diamond and ran 4 racks and had a long break shot for the 5th rack and rattled it in the corner pocket. I thought that it might have gone on a GC with the shorter shelf.
Many times I've shot a ball up the rail on a Diamond that rattled but would have gone on a GC.
Given the same pocket size I'm thinking a Diamond is at least 10% harder then a GC.
thoughts?

 

[Colonel]

I don't find them harder, I don't like the rails as much as a GC though. Super ball rails

 

[prewarhero]

It all depends on the table
My GC3 with rail work done by Jerimy Chambers plays tougher than the diamonds. That being said, I am in the camp that loves the way a diamond plays. When I move, I will be selling my table and buying a diamond. My only question is how tight I make the pockets. MY gold crown is 4 3/8th.

 

[Johnnyt]

Out of the box from the factories...Diamond plays harder. Johnnyt

 

[Catahula]

I agree with johnny

Out of the box from the factories...Diamond plays harder. Johnnyt

A lot harder to cheat the pockets on a Diamond. It will be my next table, I love the way they play.
Tommy

 

[measureman]

A lot harder to cheat the pockets on a Diamond. It will be my next table, I love the way they play.
Tommy

My feelings also.
i play at a room on Diamonds.
sometimes during a snow storm i play at a room that's closer on GC tables and am surprised at how many balls that skim the rails go in.

 

[bad_hit]

Doesn't this thread measure this sort of thing? http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=324408

Definitely more difficult than most GCs. On a Diamond you need to hit the pocket more precisely and can't skim the rail nearly as much or spin the ball with speed as much or it rattles.

 

[Cuebuddy]

Four racks??? I was thinking about paying you a visit soon but maybe I should wait till you cool down a bit.

When is your next slump?

 

[measureman]

Four racks??? I was thinking about paying you a visit soon but maybe I should wait till you cool down a bit.

When is your next slump?[/QUOTE]

the day after I play you.:grin-loving:

 

[Cuebuddy]

Four racks??? I was thinking about paying you a visit soon but maybe I should wait till you cool down a bit.

When is your next slump?[/QUOTE]

the day after I play you.:grin-loving:

I was afraid of that. I will let you know.
I play on two different tables that RKC has set up....mine(Diamond Pro) and a Gold Crown 4. The Diamond plays tougher but its not a huge difference IMHO. It will make a difference though on several shots during a match.

 

[Nick B]

If I had to put a number on it. Normally about 30% tougher. Pasted to a rail probably a little harder like 45%. Now factor in that Diamonds don't sag in the middle like a GC that would bring the diamond's number down a bit.

 

[caff3in3]

Same size pockets for the ones you play on? Just curious since most gold crowns have large pockets from the factory

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[Cuebuddy]

Same size pockets for the ones you play on? Just curious since most gold crowns have large pockets from the factory

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My Diamond has Pro cuts and the Gold Crown is set up like it was new, never altered.

 

[Bank it]

Gee, I always thought the center of the pocket is the same on every table

 

[LIAKOS27]

Gee, I always thought the center of the pocket is the same on every table

That's what I thought! I played on a few diamonds before! I couldn't tell the difference, I still missed about the same,,,, ALOT!

 

[measureman]

Gee, I always thought the center of the pocket is the same on every table

the shelf on a Diamond is deeper. More balls will rattle and hang up then on a GC.
I was always fair at playing position off a ball in the jaws. Now after playing on Diamonds for several years I have had more times to do this and have gotten much better.

 

[Ken_4fun]

Diamonds dont seem to bank naturally. I have a GCIII, and if I played on a Diamond at home and then played on GC, I would probably say the same thing about the GC.

They play different.

I have to laugh at folks who always talk about making a table "tighter" but reducing the pocket size. IMO, it will do nothing but make you a worse player. If you play on table with those really "tight" pockets, and you have a clue, you will change your shot selection, and not become better at pocketing balls. I have seen it many times.....

Best of rolls to all,