I have seen some of your outfits so I can imagine your underwear color might burn my retinas.:smile:
Fargo Rating? Valley vs Diamond
- Thread starter Belford
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I have seen some of your outfits so I can imagine your underwear color might burn my retinas.:smile:
That's false. You're uninformed. The information is available.
I'll send you pics, cause I wanna be like the pros.
Please post a link. Thanks.
Sorry if I'm uninformed. I've asked for this info in the past and I've never got it. It's either been ignored or I've got the run around. I've also asked how my rating has been formed and which matches I've played that's landed me my rating. That information was not available. I have a robustness of 59, I'm guess that means 59 of my matches or 59 of my games? Who knows... and who knows which 59 games/matches that was.
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What I don't understand is if a match is handicapped by giving games to the weaker player how is that taken into account for example player A gets 3 going to 8 n player B wins 8-1 without the spot but on the score it looks like 8-4. Idk if the system uses results from handicapped tournaments at all and I assume they don't use results from tournaments with ball spots but with game spots i assume they could use the results but do they literally go thru each match and omit the spot to show actual games won or what? I havnt made to many reply posts and havnt in awhile plus I'm on my phone during work so sorry if I'm quoting someone accidentally or posting incorrectly but if anyone can answer this I'd appreciate it. Thanks
Some people are aware of this but not everybody: We actually compute separate ratings for 7-foot tables and 9-foot tables, separate ratings for 8-ball and for rotation games. So though people many not know it, they actually have a separate rating for, for example,
8-ball on 7' table
At some point we will share these for players with sufficient games. But recognize that every time we restrict the games in some way we throw out tons of information, and at this point what we gain is way smaller than what we lose.
For example, suppose you go to the hill (4-5) against an opponent at BCAPL 8-ball nationals for whom we have no 8-ball information. But suppose we do know that opponent is a short-stop-level player who wins half his matches at Turning Stone. Our 8-ball rating would just ignore this information. But it IS information. We know that opponent is not a beginner league player.
Good question. Yes, ball-spot game results we don't want.
game-spot tournaments we've encountered fall into different categories:
(1) matches are scored correctly (8-1) in your example, and the weaker player wins if he gets to 5. That is, games ion the wire are not scored.
(2) matches that are scored consistently (8-4), once again in your example, for which we also have a list of the 8's and the 7's and the 6's and can back out the games on the wire
(3) Ones scored inconsistently --we just ignore these tournaments. Or in some cases we've put in just matches for players with the same rating, AA ve AA or B vs B, for example.
Is there a difference between Sky Woodward's bar table 8 ball rating and his big table rotation rating?
I honestly appreciate you answering my question I didn't think I'd get an official answer let alone within minutes of my question lol. It goes to show your dedication to promoting your system and educating the masses. Once again thanks and thank you for your role in trying to improve the game we all love
FargoRate is fairly new and we will have to wait for enhancements but it would be cool if in the future we could click on a history button and see a list of all our games in the system. Then we could see if our league operators / tourney directors are properly updating the system.
Mike Page, please put this on our Christmas list.
Essentially no. For the 10-matches Sky played at the SBE event recently and at US Open 9-Ball last fall, he played at 772-speed, right on par with his overall rating of 774.
What is it that makes you 9' elitest think that bar box players can't hit the center of the pocket?
- You guys assume it is easier to break and run, though stats clearly show that is not true.
- You guys assume all of them only make balls because they have to "slop" them in off of rails.
- Believe it or not all the angles are the same on every table no matter the size, thus an accurate shooter will be accurate no matter the table size.
If you compare a shot from center table to a 4.5" pocket on a 9ft table to a shot from center table to a 4.5" pocket on a 7ft table, the angular width of the pocket on the 7ft table is 28% bigger than the 9ft table. It IS easier to pocket balls on a 7ft table. But that has no bearing on FargoRate.
It is 59 games. We have very little for you.
--a few matches prom a predator charity tour stop several years ago
--a few matches from BCAPL/Vegas Open Division in 2014
--a match from 2013 US Open 10-Ball that I am now wondering may have been a forfeit. Did you play this match against Ernesto?
Have you watched the videos at www.fargorate.com?
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FargoRate is fairly new and we will have to wait for enhancements but it would be cool if in the future we could click on a history button and see a list of all our games in the system. Then we could see if our league operators / tourney directors are properly updating the system.
Mike Page, please put this on our Christmas list.
Well, that's part of the reason I'm skeptical. Aside from still not seeing exactly how things are calculated (waiting on Bob Jewett to link me), I've seen my rating fluctuate rather drastically (about 100 points) when I haven't played in over a year. I guess the people I've played have got worse?
lol good one!
Well, I guess thins is what I'm getting at. These are very random games that I've played. And yes, the US Open lol. I showed up for the Ernesto match but don't believe I pocketed a single ball thanks to my sponsor Jameson Irish Whiskey and the thunderstorm that pushed the matches back until the next morning.
So yea, my rating is fuzzy at best. I've played in much more, just kind of strange that this is all that you have on me. Which is why I think it's good to include this sort of info with the rating so people can see and get a better idea of how people play.