I wasnt asking.
Big truck
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I wasnt asking.
This is not a public domain when it is shut down to the public and set up exclusively for the tournament. It becomes "Sub-leased" to the promoter and no longer public. The players enter the tournament and give up their rights to the intellectual property and they all know it and have known it for years!
So, big trucks claims to the intellectual rights per his agreement with the room and promoter is valid. By her actions, she was trespassing and subject to removal!!! Just like a bouncer can escort you out or prohibit access. So big truck was acting as his own bouncer when he verbal and physically tried to stop what was going on. Protecting his agreement and intellectual property is his "right". Her property would not have been damaged if she was not trespassing and violating his intellectual rights! When ask to leave and told of the violation. She was afforded the opportunity to pack up and stop the violations.
KD
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Ownership has authority of regulation and enforcement. A contractor does not. If I hire someone to do all of my yard work and some other guy comes in to do just the hedges for free. That doesn't mean the guy I hired has the authority to take any physical action whatsoever. Sorry but that's not the way it works.
Here is the other thing. The tournament and stream are not one in the same. Ray does not run tournaments, he runs the streams (nothing wrong with that because they both take a lot of work). The stream does not dictate the tournament, the tournament dictates the stream.
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I'm not taking sides until I hear both of em and what the owner has to say.
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I was at the event first hand and seen this happen right in front of me. I am a pool hall owner and conducted business with Cue & A Promotions which most of you have no clue what that even is and come on here and comment like you know everything. Erica worked at Buffs for months and put on this event personally last year for the first time. She got the catering, brought in the players, started the hype and she brought in BigTruck to stream the OnePocket side of the event. Erica streamed the 9Ball last year and he had the OnePocket. This was 100% Erica's event conducted at Buffalos in New Orleans.
This year, she doesn't work for Buffalo and both of them been promoting this event for months. I wasn't there when the LapTop issue happened so I can't tell you what happened there. I was there last night and BigTruck came on multiple occasions by her equipment and kept pulling the plug and messing with her phone she was streaming from. She was showing the Randy Whalen and Dennis Orcullo match and he was broadcasting Efrens match. Obviously, he's pissed because it is hurting his viewing but they are both hired by the business to conduct the show. The OnePocket doesn't even start until today and it was side action.
The big altercation last night started when Richie was going play on Ray's stream against Chris Gentile for $500/gm. Erica was still streaming the Orcullo match and BigTruck came over before Richie and Chris started playing and grabbed her phone again because he thought she would show the Richie match. The problem everyone had was that Richie needed the action and he told Erica to just back off and listen to Ray. Erica, Ray and Richie all got into it because Richie was saying how he wouldn't play on stream unless he was compensated months ago and the next thing you know he's taking up for BigTruck and not Erica. Someone went get Buff and he came in and brought both of them to the back. When they came back, Erica took down her camera and didn't stream the rest of the night. She said Buff told her that BigTruck has a big name and he brings in a lot of people like him and he was the one who got Efren to play in his event so please stop streaming for the night. Me and 10 other people were sitting right there when everything happened. Y'all internet people that sit and speculate all the bs is a joke and no one ever states the story first hand.
Kid Dynamite, you talk all this stuff about the owner of the venue being at fault. He hired 2 streamers for the event. If you were at a professional broadcast and you had ABC and NBC broadcasting the coverage and a producer from ABC destroys NBC equipment so they have the only coverage, would you still side with ABC?
I've owned my pool room for 6 years btw and conducted business with this guy for the first 3. He treats your staff like complete crap and is a real piece of work behind the scenes. Many pool room owners will state the same thing and now the Facebook Live is out, good luck to all the pay per view. Mark my word, I've been told by over 5 people that they will be broadcasting the event all weekend from their phone and dare the old bigtruck to touch there phone......
I was at the event first hand and seen this happen right in front of me. I am a pool hall owner and conducted business with Cue & A Promotions which most of you have no clue what that even is and come on here and comment like you know everything. Erica worked at Buffs for months and put on this event personally last year for the first time. She got the catering, brought in the players, started the hype and she brought in BigTruck to stream the OnePocket side of the event. Erica streamed the 9Ball last year and he had the OnePocket. This was 100% Erica's event conducted at Buffalos in New Orleans.
This year, she doesn't work for Buffalo and both of them been promoting this event for months. I wasn't there when the LapTop issue happened so I can't tell you what happened there. I was there last night and BigTruck came on multiple occasions by her equipment and kept pulling the plug and messing with her phone she was streaming from. She was showing the Randy Whalen and Dennis Orcullo match and he was broadcasting Efrens match. Obviously, he's pissed because it is hurting his viewing but they are both hired by the business to conduct the show. The OnePocket doesn't even start until today and it was side action.
The big altercation last night started when Richie was going play on Ray's stream against Chris Gentile for $500/gm. Erica was still streaming the Orcullo match and BigTruck came over before Richie and Chris started playing and grabbed her phone again because he thought she would show the Richie match. The problem everyone had was that Richie needed the action and he told Erica to just back off and listen to Ray. Erica, Ray and Richie all got into it because Richie was saying how he wouldn't play on stream unless he was compensated months ago and the next thing you know he's taking up for BigTruck and not Erica. Someone went get Buff and he came in and brought both of them to the back. When they came back, Erica took down her camera and didn't stream the rest of the night. She said Buff told her that BigTruck has a big name and he brings in a lot of people like him and he was the one who got Efren to play in his event so please stop streaming for the night. Me and 10 other people were sitting right there when everything happened. Y'all internet people that sit and speculate all the bs is a joke and no one ever states the story first hand.
Kid Dynamite, you talk all this stuff about the owner of the venue being at fault. He hired 2 streamers for the event. If you were at a professional broadcast and you had ABC and NBC broadcasting the coverage and a producer from ABC destroys NBC equipment so they have the only coverage, would you still side with ABC?
I've owned my pool room for 6 years btw and conducted business with this guy for the first 3. He treats your staff like complete crap and is a real piece of work behind the scenes. Many pool room owners will state the same thing and now the Facebook Live is out, good luck to all the pay per view. Mark my word, I've been told by over 5 people that they will be broadcasting the event all weekend from their phone and dare the old bigtruck to touch there phone......
Pending any video evidence of the altercation, this guy wins the debate.
KD = Az's lead council
The event didn't even start yet. They were both streaming different matches. I and many other people was there in person and watched all the madness unfold.
She has video evidence and she had plenty people who saw first hand what happened.
Zk
Preserved, prior to the edit.
Preserved, prior to the edit.
Regarding above in red!
Who gives away the rights to broadcast exclusively to Big Truck during the days of the event!
Then
Gives the same rights to broadcast to crazy erica???
They overlap and I am certain Big Truck's agreement had components and language or clauses explicit or implied regarding exclusive rights to the intellectual rights.
Based on her having to pack up and shut down the owner realized big trucks claims of exclusivity were valid.
The owner has spoken!!!
KD
justinb386
Banned
So, she was asked to leave? By who? The owner, manager, or tournament director?
They werent showing tbe saMe stuff
I say the relationship betweeen the 3partiez is mlre akin to having multille food vendors at an event.
And, the owner of buffalos has not spoken here.
I say the relationship betweeen the 3partiez is mlre akin to having multille food vendors at an event.
And, the owner of buffalos has not spoken here.
Wow! If you think this is how it will all unfold by the end of the event, you certainly have another thing coming. The owner said Efren was there because of Ray and he didn't want to piss Efren off before the event started so asked Erica to take down her broadcast until later. You internet speculators are something else. I see why other owners of pool rooms and others haven't spoken up because y'all have an answer for everything. Peace.....
No, she was asked to stop streaming just for the night so BigTruck doesn't leave and Efren stays for the event.
There is suppose to be a bunch of guys bringing there own wifi hub and streaming this event through facebook live. Just don't say I didn't warn y'all this was coming and this event will be one to be remembered for the existence of the pool streaming pay per view world. A real statement is being made....
Efren was out at Hargtimes on the POV stream for the last few days which was free. Did they pay half for Efren. Boy, for something there is not much money in, some streamers sure pay out a lot. Johnnyt