Justin Bergman not on Team USA Mosconi Cup?

00john

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I went to Vegas last year to watch the mosconi cup why live. Justin Bergman was a pivotal part of the team. I noticed he isn't even in the top 10 on the potential mosconi Cup team list. Bummer!
 
I went to Vegas last year to watch the mosconi cup why live. Justin Bergman was a pivotal part of the team. I noticed he isn't even in the top 10 on the potential mosconi Cup team list. Bummer!

The captain still gets two picks from what I can remember. So he can still make the team that way.
 
I went to Vegas last year to watch the mosconi cup why live. Justin Bergman was a pivotal part of the team. I noticed he isn't even in the top 10 on the potential mosconi Cup team list. Bummer!

He's currently in 11th place, with the majority of the points events yet to be played.
 
He's registered for the 8-ball and 10-ball events in Vegas next week. I'm also curious about which Americans are playing in the world 9-ball in Qatar, but I just looked and don't see a list of entries.
 
Justin is not going to Qatar. I assume Dechaine and Rodney are not either as they are scheduled to be on the CSI stream for challenge matches out in Vegas.

Oscar is going to Qatar. I would think SVB is as well or he would most likely been on a CSI stream match.


I posted this earlier - Mark Wilson will have a heck of a decision to make if the top 3 in Mosconi Cup points remain the same at the end.

Morris
Dominquez
Dechaine

That leaves 2 spots for what I feel is the obvious next 3 in line for the captains choice pick --- SVB, Sky, Justin.
 
Here's what I found: SVB is playing in one of those matches in Vegas, against Hohmann, on the 26th. Dechaine v. Rodney on the 27th, and then Bergman v. Deuel on the 28th. The first stage (after the qualifiers) of the World 9-ball starts on the 29th. I could see SVB making it but not sure about the others. I believe the US gets to enter a couple of players without need for qualifiers, but not sure about how that works (neither Dechaine nor SVB did qualifiers last year).
 
Here's what I found: SVB is playing in one of those matches in Vegas, against Hohmann, on the 26th. Dechaine v. Rodney on the 27th, and then Bergman v. Deuel on the 28th. The first stage (after the qualifiers) of the World 9-ball starts on the 29th. I could see SVB making it but not sure about the others. I believe the US gets to enter a couple of players without need for qualifiers, but not sure about how that works (neither Dechaine nor SVB did qualifiers last year).

Mike might beable to get without qualifying.... Rocket also now that i think about it. Svb is a given. Sky and justin would needto go through qualifiers
 
Bergman played in Olathe, just didn't have a great finish for him. I imagine he's gearing up to make his run up the standings with most of the points events still remaining.
 
Justin is not going to Qatar. I assume Dechaine and Rodney are not either as they are scheduled to be on the CSI stream for challenge matches out in Vegas.

Oscar is going to Qatar. I would think SVB is as well or he would most likely been on a CSI stream match.


I posted this earlier - Mark Wilson will have a heck of a decision to make if the top 3 in Mosconi Cup points remain the same at the end.

Morris
Dominquez
Dechaine

That leaves 2 spots for what I feel is the obvious next 3 in line for the captains choice pick --- SVB, Sky, Justin.

The more I think about this, the more I think that Deschaine should recuse himself from MC play in the best interests of his image and the US team in general.

This may be harsh, but even APA teams who go to Vegas know which players will play and which ones won't.
 
The more I think about this, the more I think that Deschaine should recuse himself from MC play in the best interests of his image and the US team in general.

This may be harsh, but even APA teams who go to Vegas know which players will play and which ones won't.

Can you explain this? Why should Mike not be on the Mosconi Cup team?
 
The more I think about this, the more I think that Deschaine should recuse himself from MC play in the best interests of his image and the US team in general.

This may be harsh, but even APA teams who go to Vegas know which players will play and which ones won't.

Im lost on this one
 
Incredibly poor track record in the MC.

Earl and his ilk are great individual players, but do not have the temperament/capacity to be in team sports. Deschaine seems to be in this boat.
 
If past performance excludes a player, who have we got that would qualify? Having played under the pressure of the Mosconi Cup, and being willing and able to compete for a spot again, tells me that Mr. Dechaine deserves a spot if he's in the top 3. As we know, there are no easy matches against the European team, so we need our best players, and like him or not, he's one of them. For all the players who make it, and all those trying, I for one are pulling for you.
 
Dechaine's Mosconi Cup record:

2011 -- 1-1 in singles, 0-2 in doubles, 0-1 teams, 1-4 total

2012 -- 0-2 singles, 1-2 doubles, 1-0 teams, 2-4 total

2015 -- 0-1 singles, 1-2 doubles, 1-0 teams, 2-3 total

3-year total -- 1-4 singles, 2-6 doubles, 2-1 teams, 5-11 total (winning percentage of 31%)

Another way of looking at the records is to count a full point for each player in a singles win or loss, half a point for each player in a doubles win or loss, and one-fifth of a point for each player in a team win or loss. So this essentially answer the question: "What numerical contribution has a player made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores?" On this basis, Dechaine's 3-year record is 2.4 - 7.2 (winning percentage of 25%).
 
Thanks AtLarge. I think it's also important, though, to compare his performance to the other US players, who as a group have not won the Cup since before Mike started playing in it. (I'm not asking you to do that [unless you really want to ;)], but I think we all know how dismal the group's performance has been during that time.)
 
Corey Deuel is the Best Choice, imho.

Deuel has played on 9 Mosconi Cup teams. Counting a full win or loss for each player in a match, his overall record is 7-6 singles, 13-12 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 5-2 teams, 27-20 total (winning percentage of 57%).

Counting half a point for each player in a doubles win or loss, a third of a point for each player in a trebles (played only in 2006) win or loss, and one-fifth of a point (one-sixth in 2006 when the teams had 6 players) for each player in a team win or loss, Deuel's overall record is 15.1 - 12.4 (winning percentage of 55%).
 
Thanks AtLarge. I think it's also important, though, to compare his performance to the other US players, who as a group have not won the Cup since before Mike started playing in it. (I'm not asking you to do that [unless you really want to ;)], but I think we all know how dismal the group's performance has been during that time.)

Here are the numbers for the 3 years (combined) that Dechaine was on the team (2011, 2012, 2015):

Counting a full point for each player in a match:
• Dechaine -- 1-4 singles, 2-6 doubles, 2-1 team, 5-11 total (winning percentage of 31%)
• Other Team USA players -- 10-17, 18-16 doubles, 8-4 team, 36-37 total (49%)
• Total Team USA -- 11-21, 20-22, 10-5, 41-48 (46%)

Counting half a point for each player in a doubles match and one-fifth of a point for each player in a team match:
• Dechaine -- 2.4 - 7.2 (25%)
• Other Team USA players -- 20.6 - 25.8 (44%)
• Total Team USA -- 23 - 33 (41%)
 
It doesn't seem like Justin and Corey has been playing in a lot of pool tournaments this year. If they get in, its more by virtue of their name and history and not what they have done this year. Of course theres still a few big tournaments left to be played.
 
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