$2000 Bank Bend Challenge

Come on guys, he says it's legit. They need to give him the money. What kind of person would he have to be to try to defraud Bob and Dr. Dave?
 
Cleary has been known to do some pranks and push limits, and so I thought he was messing with Bob & Dr Dave with this video and was indeed going to come clean with how he achieved this result, like a weighted ball, cloth treatment, whatever. But he's maintaining that he did this big bend on the up and up.

So, if he met the criteria set in the rules of the contest and there is no evidence of impropriety, then I also think he should be paid.

jmo

best,
brian kc
 
I'm here, and I have been watching and reading. I've also discussed your video with Bob Jewett and others. I've also watched the video many times in regular speed, in slow motion, and frame by frame.

Your video is very impressive, but, honestly, the amount of curve looks very suspicious for regulation equipment. Would you be willing to demonstrate your technique in person? Bob will be in New York all of next week for the 3-cushion tournament in Queens. Even if you could demonstrate only a fraction of the bend amount achieved in the video, both Bob and I would be very impressed.

I am guessing that you used a weighted ball like the one I used in the following video:
NV B.33 - Back-hand swoop and twist ball-turn techniques
However, if you have not violated any of rules 1 through 11 on the $2000 Bank Bend Challenge website, we will be happy to add your entry to the website to make it official.

If the video is not a legitimate entry, please share with us how you created such an awesome amount of apparent bend. I'm sure all of the readers of this thread are curious to know how you did it. Bob and I certainly are. Whatever you did, it must have taken a decent amount of time and effort, and I appreciate that.

BTW, what do you think your final ruler measurement was? The best I can tell from the video, it was about 7/8".

Whatever you've done to create the video, thank you for posting it. It has been very fun for people, including me, to watch.

Catch you later,
Dave


Hey Doc! I would recommend watching it again...7/8!!! It was easy 1 1/2" +
 
Cleary has been known to do some pranks and push limits, and so I thought he was messing with Bob & Dr Dave with this video and was indeed going to come clean with how he achieved this result, like a weighted ball, cloth treatment, whatever. But he's maintaining that he did this big bend on the up and up.

So, if he met the criteria set in the rules of the contest and there is no evidence of impropriety, then I also think he should be paid.

jmo

best,
brian kc

Btw IF they ever end up paying, every penny is going to charity. I don't need their money but others do. It's just fun watching a couple scientists scratch their heads hahaha. And maybe rethink putting out a challenge that any C player can do.
 
I'll give the doc credit, he didn't make an easy challenge. This wasn't first try, I didn't just turn the camera on and slam it in. This took a lot of time. I'm not a very good player so not sure what I did or how to do it again.

That was incredible. I've never seen anything like it.

JoeyA
 
Btw IF they ever end up paying, every penny is going to charity. I don't need their money but others do. It's just fun watching a couple scientists scratch their heads hahaha. And maybe rethink putting out a challenge that any C player can do.

If any C player can do it, then why hasn't any C player (without video editing skills) done it?

Serious inquiry. Not an accusation.
 
If any C player can do it, then why hasn't any C player (without video editing skills) done it?

Serious inquiry. Not an accusation.

How many tried?

The video plays all the way through just like he says. I did everything he asked. Do you see an edit? The camera never stopped recording. lol it's a cell phone!
 
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Btw IF they ever end up paying, every penny is going to charity. I don't need their money but others do. It's just fun watching a couple scientists scratch their heads hahaha. And maybe rethink putting out a challenge that any C player can do.

We'll never know if you give it to charity. But if someone did take money with a fraudulent shot, they'd be a scumbag, and "giving it to charity" :wink wink: wouldn't change that.
 
We'll never know if you give it to charity. But if someone did take money with a fraudulent shot, they'd be a scumbag, and "giving it to charity" :wink wink: wouldn't change that.

lol I'll make a video of me giving it to charity.
 
We'll never know if you give it to charity. But if someone did take money with a fraudulent shot, they'd be a scumbag, and "giving it to charity" :wink wink: wouldn't change that.

It's funny that someone offers up a challenge then when someone wins it, they try not to pay and the person who should have won is concerned the scumbag. Very interesting.
 
Anyone who thinks an object ball can have that amount and type of spin probably buys new shoes and then wears the boxes home.
 
It's funny that someone offers up a challenge then when someone wins it, they try not to pay and the person who should have won is concerned the scumbag. Very interesting.



I said the person would be a scumbag only if they tried to take money with a fraudulent shot, not if they won the actual challenge. Why did you think I was talking about your shot?
 
If Dr Dave prefers he can make the donation himself... I don't need the write off either.


#scumbagsforcharity
 
The single required measurement is from the TP/towel roll to the center of the donut that is between the two "gate" balls where the video shows that the three balls are in line. The video does show that the three balls are in line. So that part is good and the gate balls and the roll are not struck, so that is good.

As far as I can see from the video, the distance from the roll to the center of the donut is pretty close to 1 inch.

Cleary, do you agree that the measurement you made is about 1.0 inches for that distance?
 
The single required measurement is from the TP/towel roll to the center of the donut that is between the two "gate" balls where the video shows that the three balls are in line. The video does show that the three balls are in line. So that part is good and the gate balls and the roll are not struck, so that is good.

As far as I can see from the video, the distance from the roll to the center of the donut is pretty close to 1 inch.

Cleary, do you agree that the measurement you made is about 1.0 inches for that distance?

Yes. The distance from roll to reinforcer is about 1". Under the roll was another reinforcer, the distance between the two was a pool balls width. The object ball bent wel past the 2nd reinforcer. Its obvious that I surpassed what you felt was possible and therefore win.
 
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