REVO shaft competitor?!

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marek

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Hi there!couple of days ago i came across this site: http://www.becueofficial.com After exploring their site I contacted them and asked many questions about their cue/shaft.simply put it seems that REVO shaft may have found its competitor.!for those who doesnt want to pay the price Predator has set for Revo cues this "Becue" may be the way to go. Check for yourselves:)
 
Won't open. Is the company brand x. Never heard of them. Is the shaft comparable or a cheap imitation.
 
That sound intriguing Marek. (how did you hear about this cue?)

It looks like it is a carbon shaft. It also appears that they are looking for funding to bring their product to market, through Kickstart.

Not a lot of data on the product but enough to keep me interested.

Would love to hear more about them.

Thanks for posting this.

JoeyA
 
Well, it is just a kickstarter so judments are limited at this point.

What I'm seeing:

1) Woven carbon fiber. Predator considered this approach but rejected it. Also the way it's finished looks closer to Cuetec than Predator other than the no-ferrule design.

2) Thin-wall carbon fiber butt with weight adjustable only at the very back. 'Balance' is only half the battle, getting mass at the appropriate point in the cue (I prefer ahead of my grip with an overall front-weighted cue) makes a big difference especially if you have little or no lift on your backswing.

3) If the shaft really is just the thin woven carbon fiber they show in the video, without a wood or other composite core, the shaft is going to be phantom light, which may make certain shots and feeling the shaft's travel difficult.

They need a more detailed technical explanation of what they're building on their site. Why is this better than cutting down a carbon driver shaft from a golf club and putting a joint on it? Carbon and graphite shafts have existed for years in that sport, If it were easy to get the appropriate micro-delayed energy delivery and feel that wood offers pool would have switched from wood nearly a century ago when golf clubs stopped being made with hickory shafts.
 
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Gorramjayne said:
Well, it is just a kickstarter so judments are limited at this point.

What I'm seeing:

1) Woven carbon fiber. Predator considered this approach but rejected it. Also the way it's finished looks closer to Cuetec than Predator other than the no-ferrule design.

2) Thin-wall carbon fiber butt with weight adjustable only at the very back. 'Balance' is only half the battle, getting mass at the appropriate point in the cue (I prefer ahead of my grip with an overall front-weighted cue) makes a big difference especially if you have little or no lift on your backswing.

3) If the shaft really is just the thin woven carbon fiber they show in the video, without a wood or other composite core, the shaft is going to be phantom light, which may make certain shots and feeling the shaft's travel difficult.

They need a more detailed technical explanation of what they're building on their site. Why is this better than cutting down a carbon driver shaft from a golf club and putting a joint on it? Carbon and graphite shafts have existed for years in that sport, If it were easy to get the appropriate micro-delayed energy delivery and feel that wood offers pool would have switched from wood nearly a century ago when golf clubs stopped being made with hickory shafts.
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Thought wooden clubs were around into at least the 50's?
 
JoeyA said:
That sound intriguing Marek. (how did you hear about this cue?)

It looks like it is a carbon shaft. It also appears that they are looking for funding to bring their product to market, through Kickstart.

Not a lot of data on the product but enough to keep me interested.

Would love to hear more about them.

Thanks for posting this.

JoeyA
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Well from what i got by chatting to the guy at becue-the shaft is carbon composite,11.8mm diameter (only one diameter at this moment) ,custom taper (first 10cm straight,then rising),i was directly told that the taper caters well to the closed bridge.revo fibers are supposedly slightly stiffer than becue.i discovered the website by someone liking their facebook site.by chatting with the guy from becue i came to the conclusion that they are very passionate about their cue and they truly believe in their product.and to be honest i just love the simplistic design of their cues plus my wife loves the colour of the shaft :D all this made me decide to buy their 500eur cue,i already made my pledge on kickstarter:wink: in my life i found out that sometimes it is good to follow just my feelings and my gut tells me that these guys at becue really give it all they have to come up with something special.and i decided i want to be part of that ;)
 
Hi

I looked at their site and Kickstarter page. It looked to me as though you pledge 500eu. Which they add 25 for shipping. And you get, I believe 450 discount off the anticipated msrp which I didn't see disclosed

I may have mis read it. I am considering it depending on the reply I receive from their contact page

If the pledge pays for the cue then I'll be in

Thanks for the insight
 
BmoreMoney said:
Thought wooden clubs were around into at least the 50's?
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You can still get hickory shafted clubs from boutique makers even today, but by the 1930s most serious golfers had switched to steel. Sure hickory was available but it was generally conceded that they couldn't match steel shafts. Wood driver heads lasted into the 90s but hickory shafts fell out of favor over 80 years ago.
 
marek said:
...11.8mm diameter (only one diameter at this moment) ,custom taper (first 10cm straight,then rising),i was directly told that the taper caters well to the closed bridge.
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That diameter certainly has me interested, 13mm is way too thick for my liking and I never understood why the REVO didn't geo smaller or offer a slim version since you can get about any stiffness or hit properties you want at any diameter with carbon....

That sounds like the old-school 'standard' taper, before the 10-12" 'pro taper" became popular, with no taper rise at the very end of the tip and gradual rise after. My Lucasi Slm shaft has that taper, around that diameter. It's a good compromise, thin enough to be precise but stiff enough anybody can hit it decently without a big adjustment period, working well enough both closed and open bridge. And because once the taper rise starts it's less abrupt than a long pro taper, you can reach a little longer on the table and the cue stays stable on an open bridge.
 
Do they have "pool" knowledge? The first shot shown in their video is a foul. It's the push-shot/double-hit that was in the Hustler.
 
Great!
Thanks,
JoeyA

marek said:
Well from what i got by chatting to the guy at becue-the shaft is carbon composite,11.8mm diameter (only one diameter at this moment) ,custom taper (first 10cm straight,then rising),i was directly told that the taper caters well to the closed bridge.revo fibers are supposedly slightly stiffer than becue.i discovered the website by someone liking their facebook site.by chatting with the guy from becue i came to the conclusion that they are very passionate about their cue and they truly believe in their product.and to be honest i just love the simplistic design of their cues plus my wife loves the colour of the shaft :D all this made me decide to buy their 500eur cue,i already made my pledge on kickstarter:wink: in my life i found out that sometimes it is good to follow just my feelings and my gut tells me that these guys at becue really give it all they have to come up with something special.and i decided i want to be part of that ;)
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the butt is carbon fiber, but what's the shaft made from?

what, if anything, does all this even mean?

The Becue patented shafts are the result of years of research and development in materials, and the dynamic properties of the same. All shafts are manufactured using a lamination process of the composite fibers made up of various structures, physical and mechanical characteristics, and are expertly combined together to provide the best structure ever designed for a shaft. Each shaft is the perfect synthesis of a long and painstaking analysis process to provide the player with the best tool on the market to confront any game situation.
 
marek said:
Well from what i got by chatting to the guy at becue-the shaft is carbon composite,11.8mm diameter (only one diameter at this moment) ,custom taper (first 10cm straight,then rising),i was directly told that the taper caters well to the closed bridge.revo fibers are supposedly slightly stiffer than becue.i discovered the website by someone liking their facebook site.by chatting with the guy from becue i came to the conclusion that they are very passionate about their cue and they truly believe in their product.and to be honest i just love the simplistic design of their cues plus my wife loves the colour of the shaft :D all this made me decide to buy their 500eur cue,i already made my pledge on kickstarter:wink: in my life i found out that sometimes it is good to follow just my feelings and my gut tells me that these guys at becue really give it all they have to come up with something special.and i decided i want to be part of that ;)
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I'm inclined to agree , wish they had a black shaft though to match up with ebony butt:eek:

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Never understood what is wrong with a old fashioned maple shaft.

I've hit balls with the revo before they were released, and know people that love them, but don't see them being the end all, be all of cue shafts.
 
cubswin said:
Never understood what is wrong with a old fashioned maple shaft.

I've hit balls with the revo before they were released, and know people that love them, but don't see them being the end all, be all of cue shafts.
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If they perform just as well as a traditional maple shaft, they would be a better product just from the no warp and no dent features of the product.

JoeyA
 
Icon of Sin said:
Do they have "pool" knowledge? The first shot shown in their video is a foul. It's the push-shot/double-hit that was in the Hustler.
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I guess they do,it shows you what happens when you play with old wooden shaft:grin::grin::grin:
 
marek said:
I guess they do,it shows you what happens when you play with old wooden shaft:grin::grin::grin:
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And the second video shows Efren kicking a ball in with his warped bowling alley shaft with a cue ball ferrule.
 
JoeyInCali said:
And the second video shows Efren kicking a ball in with his warped bowling alley shaft with a cue ball ferrule.
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I like such good-spirited thread for a change :) usually it gets crazy here on azb in few responses :sorry:
 
cubswin said:
Never understood what is wrong with a old fashioned maple shaft.

I've hit balls with the revo before they were released, and know people that love them, but don't see them being the end all, be all of cue shafts.
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Totally agree. The REVO is not the answer. Just something different that can be lived without.
 
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