Stevie Moore parallel shots CTE video

[Dan White]

Not only that, but for some reason Dan is under the impression that having a swoop invalidates the actual stroke line of the shot. Why he thinks that, I don't know, but he sure is barking up the wrong tree.

For his argument to have any validity, it would have to mean that the only shots ever made were with a perfectly straight stroke, or, that no one that doesn't have a straight stroke ever shoots down the correct aim line. Neither are true, so I'm not sure just what point he thinks he is actually making with his swoop theory.

Don't confuse a swoop with a redirection of the cue before the final delivery.

 

[Dan White]

Where are you located? Maybe we can get together with my friend and see this together. He does say adjustments are made, whatever that means. He will be able to show us though.

He did say that he figured out the "adjustments" on his own. I think this is what Stan will be showing in this "final" product - could be wrong though.
Jason

I would love to do that but I am in NJ. Maybe I could talk to your guy over the phone?

 

[GoldenFlash]

Tell us your own story about how a trim Air Force officer who shot pool and then went to a very rotund butterball was affected by the physical changes.
\Hal had a fairly upright stance and it didn't have any ill effects on how he perceived CTE and made balls even at 80 years of age. He was deadly.
Stan is low and so is Stevie Moore and Landon. They certainly don't have problems with the same visuals.
Sounds to me like nothing more than an attack of a completely different aspect of playing that's never been explored before to besmirch CTE.
How do the same differences you mentioned affect contact point aiming or banks? You should at least be able to educate everyone on that by yourself.

I now, after so many years, finally understand why I always hated officers when I was in the military.

 

[stan shuffett]

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Here's what's going on and I'm sure you're well aware of it. Lou is doing his absolute devious best to try and find a crack to grab onto with the slightest verbiage
anomaly to twist and churn it into another major deficiency for arguing and beating it to death just like his boy Dan White is currently attempting with the stroke.

Remember, Lou is the one who went off like a Chinese firecracker on Gene Albrecht
about alignment and vision. He did everything in his power to denigrate and belittle him.

Nothing changes, nothing new here. It's not a quest for knowledge at all.

Way back when, they started off with:

1. It isn't mathematically correct
2. It isn't geometrically correct
3. It defies physics
4. Produce a diagram
5. Prove it with math
6. Impossible to have the same visuals for different angle shots
7. Everything visually still requires FEEL
8. Just see the shot, Nobody really needs to aim
9. PITH
10.HAMB
11. It's impossible to make all shots from 0-90 degrees with only 3 aim points
12. The stroke is swooping to correct for misalignment

I know I haven't scratched the surface with all of them but it never ends.

I agree 100%!

Truthful info and positive intent, however, will always carry 100 times the power than negativity.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Dan White]

Backhand and fronthand english will make the ball.go dead straight......but not to where it would appear it should be going
Jason

Particularly if you are bridging at the cue's pivot point where squirt cancels the direction of the cue.

 

[Dan White]

I'll bet $1,000 you don't have $100,000 in cash.

To win, just bring it all and show me. We can meet here

LOL. Bring your money, I'll bring a photo of cash!

 

[Dan White]

You just contradicted yourself in this one post. You deny saying the correction was INTENTIONAL in the first sentence and then come right back with the second one by saying CTE used strictly as described would miss the shot unless the stroke was altered.

THAT IS INTENTIONAL!

I'm sorry, where did I say it was intentional?

 

[Dan White]

Why did you add the "LOL. Just funnin you"?

You were dead on the money with the original statement. It IS war, unbelievable but true.

Kind of ironic since you are the most aggressive and meanest person in most of the CTE wars. There are plenty of personal attacks I could make against you, but that would be juvenile.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

I'm sorry, where did I say it was intentional?

It was clearly implied.

 

[Dan White]

1. It isn't mathematically correct
2. It isn't geometrically correct
3. It defies physics
4. Produce a diagram
5. Prove it with math
6. Impossible to have the same visuals for different angle shots
7. Everything visually still requires FEEL
8. Just see the shot, Nobody really needs to aim
9. PITH
10.HAMB
11. It's impossible to make all shots from 0-90 degrees with only 3 aim points
12. The stroke is swooping to correct for misalignment

Looks like you are finally beginning to understand!

 

[Dan White]

It was clearly implied.

Then, my friend, you have a reading comprehension problem. I don't think Stan or Williams realize they are swooping and misdirecting. I can say that definitively because when I see it in my own stroke I am surprised. It is often difficult to get rid of.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Kind of ironic since you are the most aggressive and meanest person in most of the CTE wars. There are plenty of personal attacks I could make against you, but that would be juvenile.

ROTFLMAO! Lou has almost a 10 year head start on me and has denigrated, belittled and name called Stan, Geno,, Freddy the Beard, CJ Wiley, John Brumback, John Barton, me, and anyone who posts positively about CTE or stands in his life long mission to shut it down.

But lets be clear, he can also attack other areas beside CTE and there are no boundaries.

You're doing a good job of following in his footsteps.

 

[BeiberLvr]

LOL. Bring your money, I'll bring a photo of cash!

Fair enough, but don't go PhotoShopping a couple 20's around a stack of 1's.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Looks like you are finally beginning to understand!

I've always understood where all of you have been going with this and Hal was the first one to warn me.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Then, my friend,

Don't ever call me that or refer to me as such.

you have a reading comprehension problem. I don't think Stan or Williams realize they are swooping and misdirecting. I can say that definitively because when I see it in my own stroke I am surprised. It is often difficult to get rid of.

I don't think you read at all.

When Stan said this I guess it didn't even come close to penetrating your thick skull to understand it better.

I can understand Dan's research curve with CTE. I was where he is at now about ten or more years ago.
Here's a little clue, Dan. CTE is visual.,Your research should be on vision and not on stroke......I can use CTE and whack the darn ball in with a broomstick.
HAHAHAHA Yup, you are in the wrong research hole.

Stan Shuffett

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Still waiting for you to admit you pause at your backstroke, as everyone has seen on video.

Totally unnecessary and highly unlikely to happen and you know it. Besides, Dan has already shown you swoop.

Lou Figueroa

 

[BeiberLvr]

still waiting for you to admit you pause at your backstroke, as everyone has seen on video.

haha...haha...haha

 

[lfigueroa]

Fortunately, My understandings are based on working with ten years of students and their vision. But It goes back to what Hal Houle knew. A hundred years without his prompts would not been have enough for me. I could not have done what Hal did in 500 years. Hal's knowledge was my absolute guide.

We all play by the same visual rules when we construct images. There is great research to support this.

Stan Shuffett

er, OK. But none of that answers my question.

And just checking: in those 10 years of working with students and their vision did you achieve some kind of accreditation in any of the vision sciences?

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Honestly, Lou!
Many that I see are not strangers to the challenges of what to see when looking at 2 spheres. This is where I can really shine because I can teach them in objective terms where their vision should be positioned in space for proper alignment. Students are thrilled to get the info. Guessing at alignments is wrong and precisely why many have life long battles with it.


Stan Shuffett

Well sure. You're not working with tyros but guys that have some experience seeing and hitting pool balls. And great that you think your teaching shines and your students thrilled.

But you have not answered my question. Just to help, here it comes again:

What about how tall a player is? Is the guy 5'2" seeing things the same as the guy who is 6'1"? Or how about whether they set up under their left eye vs their right eye, or center the cue under their chin? What happens when one player gets into a Buddy Hall low over the cue stance vs a Fats upright stance? Are they all seeing the same lines? Will their motions to get into shooting position produce the same result?

Put another way: are you suggesting that all pool players -- regardless of physical differences and mechanical idiosyncrasies -- see the same spots and edges of the balls given the same shot?

Lou Figueroa

 

[stan shuffett]

Well sure. You're not working with tyros but guys that have some experience seeing and hitting pool balls. And great that you think your teaching shines and your students thrilled.

But you have not answered my question. Just to help, here it comes again:

What about how tall a player is? Is the guy 5'2" seeing things the same as the guy who is 6'1"? Or how about whether they set up under their left eye vs their right eye, or center the cue under their chin? What happens when one player gets into a Buddy Hall low over the cue stance vs a Fats upright stance? Are they all seeing the same lines? Will their motions to get into shooting position produce the same result?

Put another way: are you suggesting that all pool players -- regardless of physical differences and mechanical idiosyncrasies -- see the same spots and edges of the balls give the same shot?

Lou Figueroa

I am not going to play this game with you. There is no end to it.

Stan Shuffett