LOL WHAT!??
You've been arguing against CTE for how long, and you honestly thought straight in shots were aimed center to center? Pathetic.
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LOL WHAT!??
You've been arguing against CTE for how long, and you honestly thought straight in shots were aimed center to center? Pathetic.
Let's say that's true. Are you still going to hold your position that CTE is harmful to unsuspecting new players?
#danwhitelogic
Watch the video.
They start at looking center to edge then pivot to the center.
Which begged the question, why not just line up center to center?
Ever missed a straight in?
You ever make one?
I'd like to see his training aid, it sounds interesting. Here's a picture of my training card for shooting with a pivot triangle.
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The bottom line is 2 1/4 inches across with holes punched through at the CCB, 1/4, 1/2, 45*, 3/4, and 7/8 ball radius marks. At the top is a cue tip slide indicator which can give a visual reference as to how the shot looks. When shooting very fine cuts it was possible to look at the amount of overhang the cue tip made beyond the edge before pivoting. On the left are four triangles of 15, 30, 45, and 60 degrees as a quick guide for tangent line estimations. If you want to learn the pivot triangle method, I'll make one up for you. Just be sure to break out your old trig book first.
What do you mean by "pivot"? What, why and how does one "pivot"?
Perhaps i don't understand today's terminology...
THANKS in advance for sincere replies.
A lot more consistently with CTE, thanks.
Curious question for you Dan.
You said, I believe, that you had some talks with Hal Houle. Did he teach you the half ball pivot and if so what is your opinion of it.
At nine minutes in, Stan says "If you turn your eyes and your body loose to play this game, they'll figure it all out."
So it seems Stan is a feel player after all. Who'd have thunk it?
I had one hour long discussion over the phone on the table with Hal. He went over dividing the object ball with three lines (ABC as Stan says) and using the edges and center of the cue ball and object ball. Probably half the phone time was talking about Greenleaf.
I'm less interested in a phone call over a decade ago and am more interested in what happened to JB. I'm eagerly awaiting his response.
I'd like to hear more about greenleaf.
perhaps his fingers fell off or his choke chain was yanked for obvious reasons
So you only want an answer to your question (over and over).
Not interested in answering questions posed to you or a real discussion.
PS I guess you really are Rick Jr.
I don't recall if he used the term half ball pivot 15 years ago. He gave me the basics of how the system worked enough for me to be able to try it and play around with it. I quickly realized this method had a serious flaw so I did not continue with using it.
Subsequently I became interested in the "emperor has no clothes" phenomena that is going on in this forum. I was minding my own business barely posting anything and John created a video address to me so what do you want me to do? If he seems interested in actually answering the question then I'm interested in listening. I'm really not interested in any other peripheral discussion on the subject.
GoldenFlash
Banned
"Minding your own business".......??????????
That is laughable.
You've been on this "CTE is terrible" rant for months.
What are you guys all members of the media? I never said any such thing. Where's John?
I've just been sitting here, barely posting anything, and I thought I'd write up a cautionary tale about the scourge of CTE. Help protect our young pool players before they're infected.
An Ode To CTE
Oh hark, I hear a merry tune,
It's one that may bode ill.
A piper brings a shiny toy
That gives some hearts a chill.
The music from the sweetened pipe
Stops as the piper swivets.
And Virgin players at the bars
Are told about "The Pivots"!
The magic spreads from town to town
As balls drop in the holes.
Young players 'cross the hinterlands
Are reaching all their goals.
"This all must stop, it can't be true.
You must supply the science.
Until you do this simple thing
You'll only get defiance."
The piper tried with all his heart,
For this I give him credit.
But some, no matter how they tried
Just couldn't seem to get it.
"Explain to us this magic trick,
And prove it does no harm.
Our Virgin players in the land
Can not resist it's charm."
The piper showed his full technique.
His help was not sufficient.
For some, no matter how they tried
Just couldn't get proficient.
He gave them lessons, all for free
On phone, youtube, email.
And some, no matter how they tried ...
T'was still an epic fail.
"The piper lies, and wants your coins."
The cries began to ring.
"His claims aren't true, it's just a scam.
For him, it's cash that's king."
The piper left the area
His students shun the scorn
Heaped by the uninitiates
Who like to toot their horns.
The piper says that he'll be back
And will explain "The Pivot"!
I hope this time he does succeed
I'd rather not relive it.
I was going to do another stanza but I couldn't find a rhyme for bungholes.
An Ode To CTE
Oh hark, I hear a merry tune,
It's one that may bode ill.
A piper brings a shiny toy
That gives some hearts a chill.
The music from the sweetened pipe
Stops as the piper swivets.
And Virgin players at the bars
Are told about "The Pivots"!
The magic spreads from town to town
As balls drop in the holes.
Young players 'cross the hinterlands
Are reaching all their goals.
"This all must stop, it can't be true.
You must supply the science.
Until you do this simple thing
You'll only get defiance."
The piper tried with all his heart,
For this I give him credit.
But some, no matter how they tried
Just couldn't seem to get it.
"Explain to us this magic trick,
And prove it does no harm.
Our Virgin players in the land
Can not resist it's charm."
The piper showed his full technique.
His help was not sufficient.
For some, no matter how they tried
Just couldn't get proficient.
He gave them lessons, all for free
On phone, youtube, email.
And some, no matter how they tried ...
T'was still an epic fail.
"The piper lies, and wants your coins."
The cries began to ring.
"His claims aren't true, it's just a scam.
For him, it's cash that's king."
The piper left the area
His students shun the scorn
Heaped by the uninitiates
Who like to toot their horns.
The piper says that he'll be back
And will explain "The Pivot"!
I hope this time he does succeed
I'd rather not relive it.
I was going to do another stanza but I couldn't find a rhyme for bungholes.
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Hi Neil,
TKS for the link. i watched that vid, several others and watched JB's little table promo again, my takeaway is that JB's promo has some merit for entry level players in terms of being of a tool for consistent set-up.
i started playing pool at the age of 7 and if i wouldn't have pretty much quite on 3 occasions for a total of 18+- yrs between the ages of 20 and 51 there is no doubt i could have been a contenda so, aiming has never been a problem and i never focused on that area.
THANKS AGAIN, adam
The half ball pivot is where it all started with Stan. Shame you didn't learn it. You might have a better understanding of what is being talked about if you did.
PS Unless you care to prove the so-called "serious flaw" then u are just being ignorant by claiming any of Hal's system's were flawed in any way, let alone seriously flawed.
PSS you seem to be developing an obsession with JB