bridge use question

[Player]

It doesn't look to me like it would work very good. Seems like the top bridge would want to slide around on the bottom one. So if somebody wanted to use that playing me I would let them for sure! :grin:

 

[DoubleA]

per the rules the cue stick is not being used as it is intended
so not legal
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1.3 Player’s Use of Equipment
The equipment must meet existing WPA equipment specifications.* In general, players are not permitted to introduce novel equipment into the game. The following uses, among others, are considered normal. If the player is uncertain about a particular use of equipment, he should discuss it with the tournament management prior to the start of play.* The equipment must be used only for the purpose or in the manner that the equipment was intended. (See 6.17 Unsportsmanlike Conduct.)
(a) Cue Stick – The player is permitted to switch between cue sticks during the match, such as break, jump and normal cues. He may use either a built-in extender or an add-on extender to increase the length of the stick.
(b) Chalk – The player may apply chalk to his tip to prevent miscues, and may use his own chalk, provided its color is compatible with the cloth.
(c) Mechanical Bridges – The player may use up to two mechanical bridges to support the cue stick during the shot. The configuration of the bridges is up to the player. He may use his own bridge if it is similar to standard bridges.
(d) Gloves – The player may use gloves to improve the grip and/or bridge hand function.*
(e) Powder – A player is allowed to use powder in a reasonable amount as determined by the referee.
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I have seen this question before, I think it was ruled legal, look at rule "C".

 

[Scott Lee]

The rules clearly state a maximum of 2 bridges may be used at once.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I think its a perfectly legal manner in which to use a bridge - or even 8 of them at the same time... a Bridge is intended to be used to aid the player in gainful purchase on a shot. Legal.... I've actually used that in a Tournament with no problem. It's not the kind of thing that pops up very often.

Lesh

 

[hang-the-9]

Nope, not legal. You can stack two bridge heads, I think there is a limit of two, you can't stack 3.

 

[Maniac]

Nope, not legal. You can stack two bridge heads, I think there is a limit of two, you can't stack 3.

The picture in the OP shows only two bridges and one pool cue being used, so........

Now it only depends on WHICH set of rules you are playing under. :shrug:

Maniac

 

[tatcat2000]

Illegal in CSI/BCAPL/USAPL play

Illegal under CSI / BCAPL play per CSI rule 1-3-d.

Under WSR, decision would probably be a TD call since the wording of the relevant rules is woefully inadequate and arguably contradictory.

Buddy

 

[hang-the-9]

The picture in the OP shows only two bridges and one pool cue being used, so........

Now it only depends on WHICH set of rules you are playing under. :shrug:

Maniac

Two bridges with the bridgeheads stacked, not crossed like this. There was a question about this same type of setup (probably more than once) before.

This is good

 

[Maniac]

Two bridges with the bridgeheads stacked, not crossed like this. There was a question about this same type of setup (probably more than once) before.

This is good

Look at the rule (part C) written in post #19.

Like I said....depends on which set of rules you are using.

Maniac

 

[HawaiianEye]

This thread has me laughing my ass off. With today's rules allowing jump cues, one-foul BIH, and playing the game on tables that bounce balls around like a pinball machine, who cares how many bridges anybody uses?

I'm surprised somebody isn't advocating that APA players have to establish a handicap for each hand or they can't use the opposite hand to shoot a shot.

Pool is becoming a game that is no longer pool. It always seems that the people who want to change the rules the most are those that seem to be losing the most.

 

[BFrench501]

I would be calling a referee over for sure, because the pool cue being rested across the table is not being used as intended.

This is as ridiculous as Oscar Dominguez' placing of the hand on top of the bridge head to get an elevated bridge.

If it was a social thing it'd be different but at a tournament, then it is my opinion that the players have to be prepared in every way possible - including having different rest heads. I have a bat rest, a London bridge (aka Rabbit bridge) and an EZ-Jump rest head.

 

[Maniac]

I would be calling a referee over for sure, because the pool cue being rested across the table is not being used as intended.

I once saw Corey Deuel use a mechanical bridge for BREAKING in a fairly big tournament (not a major). Why was THIS allowed??? Obviously the bridge was NOT being used as intended.

Like I've stated twice before in this thread....depends on what rules you're playing under.

Maniac

 

[hang-the-9]

Look at the rule (part C) written in post #19.

Like I said....depends on which set of rules you are using.

Maniac

For rules, the only ones that should be valid are the BCA or the WPA rules. The rest are modifications to that and are not really official. NBA has a set of rules, all the rest are modified from that for college, women, or whatever, that is how I view the WPA and BCA rules. I don't know of any modified rules in pool that would allow a bridge to be used like that. There may be some ambiguous wordings, but I don't see a ref or LO say that it's OK to lay the bridge across the table. That is well outside of "intended use".

 

[hang-the-9]

I once saw Corey Deuel use a mechanical bridge for BREAKING in a fairly big tournament (not a major). Why was THIS allowed??? Obviously the bridge was NOT being used as intended.

Like I've stated twice before in this thread....depends on what rules you're playing under.

Maniac

The bridge head is used as a replacement of your hand, in a break shot it's still a replacement of your hand, and is on the bed of the table or on the rail like your hand would be, but the cue shaft is still supported by the bridge head, not being used across the table and supported in the middle of it.

I saw Corey do that in a Seminole tour stop at Snookers a few years ago, was strange LOL

 

[Celophanewrap]

The bridge head is used as a replacement of your hand, in a break shot it's still a replacement of your hand, and is on the bed of the table or on the rail like your hand would be, but the cue shaft is still supported by the bridge head, not being used across the table and supported in the middle of it.

I saw Corey do that in a Seminole tour stop at Snookers a few years ago, was strange LOL

I think you have top ask yourself just what the intended use for a bridge, and if you put a
mechanical bridge head on a cue or if a bridge is supplied as a part of the table equipment
when does a pool cue become a bridge and stop being a cue stick.

I would submit that a cue with a bridge head is no longer a cue and in it from (with a
bridge head) it cannot be used as a cue stick, and thus is a bridge, or a part of the bridge.

Mechanical bridges have begun to come in many forms, most recently and very popular is the telescoping bridge.
The telescoping handle - also a part of the bridge. I say it's part of the bridge because they cannot function independently as a bridge.
So what you call a "cue shaft" is actually a "Bridge shaft".....

It's all in your perspective

 

[hang-the-9]

I think you have top ask yourself just what the intended use for a bridge, and if you put a
mechanical bridge head on a cue or if a bridge is supplied as a part of the table equipment
when does a pool cue become a bridge and stop being a cue stick.

I would submit that a cue with a bridge head is no longer a cue and in it from (with a
bridge head) it cannot be used as a cue stick, and thus is a bridge, or a part of the bridge.

Mechanical bridges have begun to come in many forms, most recently and very popular is the telescoping bridge.
The telescoping handle - also a part of the bridge. I say it's part of the bridge because they cannot function independently as a bridge.
So what you call a "cue shaft" is actually a "Bridge shaft".....

It's all in your perspective

I don't think you understood my post, someone said something about intended use of the bridge, it's to replace your bridge hand. So if you use it to support something other than a cue (outside of the stacking of two bridges together using the same bridge head), you are not using it as it was intended. Such as laying an object across the handle. I was not saying the cue shaft holding a bridge head is a cue or anything, just that the bridge head's purpose is to hold the cue shaft in place of your hand.

 

[Maniac]

I don't think you understood my post, someone said something about intended use of the bridge, it's to replace your bridge hand. So if you use it to support something other than a cue (outside of the stacking of two bridges together using the same bridge head), you are not using it as it was intended. Such as laying an object across the handle. I was not saying the cue shaft holding a bridge head is a cue or anything, just that the bridge head's purpose is to hold the cue shaft in place of your hand.

I think the "intended" use for all mechanical bridges is to aid in shooting or cleanly striking a cue ball that is not in range for taking a normal stroke. I cannot see any other reason for the bridge to have been invented.

Maniac (certainly not for breaking...what rules were they using in THAT tournament???)

 

[KRJ]

Get one of these bad boys, and you'll never need to "double bridge" which is unstable and not as dependable as this one. I've had it for over 15 years... still got the original one that came in all aluminum but it was pricey, $60. Money well spent. Now they are plastic for only $30 cause some folks are not crazy enough to spend $60 on pool equipment

Pro-Adjusta Bridge


http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/310945006409-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

 

[JoseV]

I would be calling a referee over for sure, because the pool cue being rested across the table is not being used as intended.

This is as ridiculous as Oscar Dominguez' placing of the hand on top of the bridge head to get an elevated bridge.

If it was a social thing it'd be different but at a tournament, then it is my opinion that the players have to be prepared in every way possible - including having different rest heads. I have a bat rest, a London bridge (aka Rabbit bridge) and an EZ-Jump rest head.

its not a pool cue, it's a bridge that is laying on top of the rail.