Orcullo vs. Frost- Live Reports
- Thread starter Black-Balled
- Start date
Match
I think it's neat to watch these guys go through some cycles in a day. On day one, Scott starts out slow and then catches a gear while Dennis can't seem to do anything right towards the end. On day 2 you could see Scott play well in the beginning and then get in a funk. Although I can't play at these levels, there are times I can't make a ball and times I can't seem to miss. The difficulty in this game is keeping it going through the whole session. Although I'm a huge Scott fan, I think Dennis is probably not going to fluctuate as much during a 4 day battle. It will make him hard to beat....
I think it's neat to watch these guys go through some cycles in a day. On day one, Scott starts out slow and then catches a gear while Dennis can't seem to do anything right towards the end. On day 2 you could see Scott play well in the beginning and then get in a funk. Although I can't play at these levels, there are times I can't make a ball and times I can't seem to miss. The difficulty in this game is keeping it going through the whole session. Although I'm a huge Scott fan, I think Dennis is probably not going to fluctuate as much during a 4 day battle. It will make him hard to beat....
Did you guys notice though that when Scott got that really important, and very makeable shot to win a game, he took a break then got back up there and dogged it. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, and I do think he had made a mistake just before that, but to me it really says something when an offensive player who's fighting for good shots for hours just walks away from the table when he gets a straight in ball. I mean I've seen many players do this but if you come back and miss it's almost like that break signifies to me you were kinda scared of the shot vs just composing yourself.
The other thing that really stood out to me was scott purposefullly put Dennis in a spot with a shot that Dennis probably hasn't missed in five years at least once that I can think of, I was totally mystified. He did this two or three times though and it seems his moving advantage is just totally neutralized.
The other thing that really stood out to me was scott purposefullly put Dennis in a spot with a shot that Dennis probably hasn't missed in five years at least once that I can think of, I was totally mystified. He did this two or three times though and it seems his moving advantage is just totally neutralized.
Last edited:
Soooo....whaddiya think of the other five?
Me? Personally? The more holes the better.
I need every chance I can get.
yes i believe so
It's on YouTube. (edit: maybe not anymore - I was able to replay that game as long as I had that link open last night)
Lenny is killing it with this stream. I watched on Ustream on ROKU on my big TV, and I had it going on YouTube on the laptop. I could easily rewatch any amazing shot, move, trap, reversal, and magnificent out instantly!
I watched that last game a dozen times already. Scott's bank return into the stack is in Winning One Pocket (or SMS). One of the experts (Shorty?) says to put that cueball on the head rail and double him up. "I'd like to see him shoot at his hole from there" I think is the quote. Someone go find it for me!
Well, we saw Dennis shoot it from there. And we get to see it over and over. Just frickin astonishing.
(edit: Lenny!!! That last game needs to be made easily available. Please Please Please!!!)
Freddie <~~~ can't make it
Last edited:
Scott missed several "easy" shots, and by a fair bit. The last game he won he left himself long & semi straight & missed by about 1/2 diamond. Then Dennis trying clearing it & ball went 2 rails in the side & Scott banked in the winner. Different rack Scott was running some balls & got a little bad & tried thin cutting a ball and missed by a diamond. He wasn't trying to hold position either cause by hitting it so full he actually left Dennis a shot. I imagine Scott will shoot better than he did yesterday, I don't think that'll be enough to come back though. Hope its a competitive match the rest of the way though, for enjoyment sake.
Amazing Astonishing Astounding Awesome
Those words above do describe my take on Dennis's shooting and pocketing abilities.....My prior post about him being a slow player was not intended to take away from his execution.....it shows why he is one of the best there is..
Ekoj: (post 223) I was thinking somewhat along the same lines when he took that break and came back and missed that shot....I thought it might've had the same effect as when football coaches call a timeout on a kicker, or basketball coaches call a timeout before an important free throw to "freeze" the player and make him think about it...a psych move....I don't know if it had this effect, but I didn't think it was good to take that break before shooting the shot....
Terryhanna and TinMan: (posts #213 and 214) I couldn't agree more with your views on what is happening in the match.....Dennis is playing like a machine, seems like he's making every shot, and even the ones no one expects him to make......that's got to wear on anybody mentally....I didn't like to see Scott being so frustrated, because I think then he's not playing his best game.....I hope it swings back the other way today.....
Those words above do describe my take on Dennis's shooting and pocketing abilities.....My prior post about him being a slow player was not intended to take away from his execution.....it shows why he is one of the best there is..
Ekoj: (post 223) I was thinking somewhat along the same lines when he took that break and came back and missed that shot....I thought it might've had the same effect as when football coaches call a timeout on a kicker, or basketball coaches call a timeout before an important free throw to "freeze" the player and make him think about it...a psych move....I don't know if it had this effect, but I didn't think it was good to take that break before shooting the shot....
Terryhanna and TinMan: (posts #213 and 214) I couldn't agree more with your views on what is happening in the match.....Dennis is playing like a machine, seems like he's making every shot, and even the ones no one expects him to make......that's got to wear on anybody mentally....I didn't like to see Scott being so frustrated, because I think then he's not playing his best game.....I hope it swings back the other way today.....
Yes, he may have iced himself there, unless you have to pee like a racehorse then play it until you have a new game.
It's interesting because normally I feel this is one of the strongest parts of his game. Get an obvious (yet not a hanger) shot, get up and shoot it before you can even start thinking about missing it. I like that mentality but I think in this case he maybe wanted to make it so bad he took that break and psyched himself out of it.
I have really enjoyed this match; thanks Lenny for the live stream, it's been awesome so far!
I think Scott is playing a double-edged sword... on one hand, he wants each game to last as long as possible and bring the game up-table. On the other hand, it seems the longer the games take, the more it wears on him as the night goes on more so than DO, and DO seems to be making almost every long bank.
Also, Scott is leaving too many dead cluster shots to DO, and if DO played better position, he probably could have run out a few more racks.
I think Scott is playing a double-edged sword... on one hand, he wants each game to last as long as possible and bring the game up-table. On the other hand, it seems the longer the games take, the more it wears on him as the night goes on more so than DO, and DO seems to be making almost every long bank.
Also, Scott is leaving too many dead cluster shots to DO, and if DO played better position, he probably could have run out a few more racks.
Did he shoot the combo hitting the second ball head on, or did he play the first ball into the rail before contacting the second?
What was the next shot? A bank?
Played it into the rail which got his CB near the middle diamond near the foot rail. He had a thin cut on a ball on the bottom rail.
It ain't over till it's over, only half way there now. Probably more twists and turns ahead in this match. :wink:
My prediction is it's about to turn into a landslide. Scott must realize by now he doesn't have the firepower to hang with DO. Whatever advantage he may have in strategy is being outweighed by the best move in one pocket...8 and out. DO's run out from the long combo was just mind numbing.
Dennis isn't a dummy. He is a world-class player and very high-caliber one-pocket player, even though he doesn't have the experience that Frost has.
Dennis is learning things as he is going along and he isn't letting Frost trap him over and over in the same moves. He is learning to put Frost in some of the same situations he was finding himself in earlier in the match.
Frost is really going to have to put the moves on him and make it a total "grind" instead of an 8-and-out fest. Dennis has way more firepower when it comes to hitting the pockets on difficult shots. Frost is going to have to "smother" him like liver and onions...ball by ball.
Dennis is learning things as he is going along and he isn't letting Frost trap him over and over in the same moves. He is learning to put Frost in some of the same situations he was finding himself in earlier in the match.
Frost is really going to have to put the moves on him and make it a total "grind" instead of an 8-and-out fest. Dennis has way more firepower when it comes to hitting the pockets on difficult shots. Frost is going to have to "smother" him like liver and onions...ball by ball.