No Wonder The U.S Sucks Against World

i think it has alot to do with the US mentality, some ppl think SVB is the greatest player who ever picked up a cue but the same ppl dont even know players like alcaide or chinakov...... same goes for frost, ppl think hes the king of 1p, but first alex came, now DO and some ppl still find excuses (skid, chalk, powder lol)........or a player like JB who thinks the US open is the hardest tourney on the planet cause DO told him so (shows how much dedication JB seems to have for global pool when he doesnt even check the draws or streams from the big tourneys outside the US)! also did you guys seen first part of the ronnie show and this old guy who didnt knew who ronnie is? heck, he probably didnt even knew what snooker is........how is this possible, how uninformed or ignorant has someone to be? i bet every dedicated poolshooter (or carom, pyramid or what the hell ever) outside of the US, no matter how good he is and where he is from, knows who ronnie o´sullivan is!
its that america first thinking without having a look outside which causes alot of probs while the rest of the world overtakes US pool left and right (even some middle east guys have already better fundamentals than the avg US pro)! how many of the US guys here know that shane and jayson were playing euro tour lately and how the outcome was? FYI shane finished 9th (lost to mario) and jayson 33th (lost to albin and ralph)..... bet if there would have been a final SVB - Shaw this forum would be filled again about their greatness, right? only a euro tour isnt a picknic like most of the US tourneys where SVB and shaw gets challenged first in last 5 or so!
in conclusion, US pool has to make up their mind or it gets very very dark once shane goes full time fishing! but i bet again, this wont happen.......(the mind part lol)
Mario who? I assume a Euro tour player?
 
Yes, the other 99% of the kid population.

How many kids do you see in the USA who are standing in the middle of a major city street selling cigarettes, one by one, to get enough money to feed their family?

How many kids do you see who only have ONE set of clothes?

How many kids do you see who live in houses that have NEVER had electricity or indoor plumbing?

That is common in the Philippines.

The kids (and people in general) in the USA have never experienced true poverty like it is throughout some of the world. They may have seen it on TV, which in a lot of cases there are households in the PI that have never had a TV.

Tiger Woods never experienced any kind of poverty and neither did 99% of of the athletes you may be referencing. Ask Efren where he was sleeping when he learned to play pool. Ask almost any of the Filipino champions. The majority of them would have killed to have any of things that even the most impoverished people in the USA have. People in the USA are spoiled. I'm an American and live in the USA, but have lived and traveled enough to be able to compare one place to another.

You mention college, which makes me laugh. There are thousands and thousands of kids in the Philippines who drop out of school as adolescents or work to feed their families and themselves.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/stor...ce/a-look-at-dropout-rates-in-the-philippines
What u speak of is very true. I feel blessed to live the life I had and my story goes when I was a baby my parents were a lawyer and a nurse so we were very well off. Unfortunately they were badly into cocaine and by the time I was 10 I was being raised by my granny who had custody because my mom was out in the streets n my dad was in jail. My granny raised me and my little brother(10 years younger) and sacrificed her golden years to give us the love we deserved and needed. I lived a very poor life compared to other families near by often going without electricity and even having our water shut off because she was supporting us on her small pension and taking care of the house at the same time. I'd never change a thing about it I at least had my grandmother and she was a saint and eventually both parents got off drugs and now are living good lives. I actually turned to selling drugs as a youth because the attraction of having money for food and being able to get my little brother presents on his birthday and Christmas was enough to suck me in and I'm not proud of it but I absolutely used the money I made for the right things but eventually I got into trouble myself and after having a son of my own turned my life around completely and now I'm just a working stiff doing construction 8-430 mon-fri to support my family. Basically the reason for my post is I had a rough upbringing as far as Americans are concerned but compared to 3rd world countries I was a king. My dad always told me things could be way worse and he's right. The trials n tribulations I went through as a child shaped me into the person I am today and it's not impossible but if u grow up with everything u want and need being constantly spoiled and pampered it's going to be tough to have the extreme dedication and work ethic someone has that's trying to get out of a horrible situation.

My take is on American pool is on par with what a lot are saying but along with what I'm saying for most Americans a professional pool career will most likely leave u way less off than basically any other career choice even working as a register at wawa or McDonald's. There's ample amounts of full time jobs in America that will pay a steady paycheck and unless ur the top 5 players in the country the 250-350 a week you'd make at McDonald's is way more that what you'll make playing pool in the long run. On the flip side in the phillipeans it's the opposite and if pool is the most lucrative of jobs it makes sense why everyone there aspires to be pool players. Think about it like this for us playing professional sports is extremely lucrative so most youngsters dream of being the next lebron James like someone said but in the Phillapeans there idols are pool players hence the way they all want to grow up to be Efren or busty. When was he last time you heard a kid from the us say he wants to grow up to be the next earl or Shane? I've never heard it but I'm sure all the kids In Manila want to grow up to be Efren.
 
I didnt say Mike had nice childhood, but trust me - for instance in sub-Saharan Africa 2000 children die every single day because of poor sanitation and no access to drinkable water. I guess these children would trade their childhood with Mike anytime. But my remarks are idiotic according to you so you may discard my opinion at your pleasure;)
P.s.: My childhood was just fine, thanks for your concern :D

No problem you are certainly entitled to your opinions but that does not change the facts. There is a definition of extreme poverty for the world and there are some in America that live at that level (Mike Tyson was one). The fact that some in extreme poverty have it even worse than others does not change the facts. (Good idea to do some research before calling someone out)
 
No problem you are certainly entitled to your opinions but that does not change the facts. There is a definition of extreme poverty for the world and there are some in America that live at that level (Mike Tyson was one). The fact that some in extreme poverty have it even worse than others does not change the facts. (Good idea to do some research before calling someone out)

Ok some facts and definitions then:
Extreme poverty was originally defined by the United Nations in 1995 as "a condition characterized by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, shelter, education and information. It depends not only on income but also on access to services."[2] In 2008, "extreme poverty" widely refers to earning below the international poverty line of $1.25/day (in 2005 prices), set by the World Bank. [3] The vast majority of those in extreme poverty – 96% – reside in South Asia, Sub-Saharan Africa, The West Indies, East Asia and the Pacific; nearly half live in India and China alone.

And I am prettty much sure that Mike in his childhood really didnt fulfill the criteria above. Have a nice day ;)
 
More pool players in the US than in Europe by a country mile, so don't blame demographics.
 
More pool players in the US than in Europe by a country mile, so don't blame demographics.

That's because the Euros all want to live in the U.S. USA all the way, baby! :grin:
 

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I don't read anywhere that the Euros are proud to be European. What's up with that?
 

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I don't read anywhere that the Euros are proud to be European. What's up with that?

Maybe that is basically because we are proud of our national states, not Europe as a whole. The only time we cheer for Europe is during Mosconi Cup and during big international events where we cheer for european players :) Anybody considering Europe as equal to USA regarding loyalty of its citizens got it wrong. I am from Czech Republic and I am proud of my home country, I swore an oath to protect my country during my time in military and in time of the need (if such comes) I am ready to fulfill that oath. Also we got the best beer in the world and beautiful women :wink::grin: Am I proud of being European? Well...I am indiferrent to that fact, Europe is and almost always has been fractured into many national states even though European Union tries to tighten that bond (...and many people are against it =) Brexit). But it says nothing about the quality of life in Europe, it differs greatly from state to state, some Euro states are even WAY richer than USA per capita while most of them are not but it doesnt affect peoples love for their own country.
So yeah, you wont probably hear/read people saying "I am sooo proud to be European", but you can definitely encounter people being proud German, French, Czech, Italian..:smile:
 
That's because the Euros all want to live in the U.S. USA all the way, baby! :grin:

all? i know of 3-4.......i know way more who are more than happy to leave the US again after the US open...... cant blame them when they cross ppl like you!
 
Maybe that is basically because we are proud of our national states, not Europe as a whole. The only time we cheer for Europe is during Mosconi Cup and during big international events where we cheer for european players :) Anybody considering Europe as equal to USA regarding loyalty of its citizens got it wrong. I am from Czech Republic and I am proud of my home country, I swore an oath to protect my country during my time in military and in time of the need (if such comes) I am ready to fulfill that oath. Also we got the best beer in the world and beautiful women :wink::grin: Am I proud of being European? Well...I am indiferrent to that fact, Europe is and almost always has been fractured into many national states even though European Union tries to tighten that bond (...and many people are against it =) Brexit). But it says nothing about the quality of life in Europe, it differs greatly from state to state, some Euro states are even WAY richer than USA per capita while most of them are not but it doesnt affect peoples love for their own country.
So yeah, you wont probably hear/read people saying "I am sooo proud to be European", but you can definitely encounter people being proud German, French, Czech, Italian..:smile:

Right now, I am on a major search to purchase this Austrian coffee in the U.S. https://www.meinlcoffee.com/products/light-taste-well-balanced/

I can get other blends by Julius Meinl on Amazon, but not this blend: Premiume Breakfast and Banquets Silver Cup. I want this blend. Best coffee I have ever had in my life. Euros are good a some things, I guess. :grin:
 

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all? i know of 3-4.......i know way more who are more than happy to leave the US again after the US open...... cant blame them when they cross ppl like you!

I know quite a few more than three or four, and they like me. It's okay for you to be a JAM hater. You're in good company on this forum. :grin:
 
there must be a reason for that.......

I'm actually well liked by most who know me in the pool world. I've been around for a while. I'm an oldster.

On this forum, I am a known entity, whereas people like you post anonymously and take potshots at others. :grin-square:

Being a known entity is being a minority on AzBilliards, but anonymous members, again, like yourself, are in the majority. For some, it's fun to attack others with mean-spirited words while hiding behind the security of their computer monitor. There's a word for that, but I'll let you think of what that might be.
 
Right now, I am on a major search to purchase this Austrian coffee in the U.S. https://www.meinlcoffee.com/products/light-taste-well-balanced/

I can get other blends by Julius Meinl on Amazon, but not this blend: Premiume Breakfast and Banquets Silver Cup. I want this blend. Best coffee I have ever had in my life. Euros are good a some things, I guess. :grin:

Yes, a diversity is a good thing :wink: Italian clothing, french wine, austrian cofee and sacher cake, czech beer and women..life can be good in Europe :thumbup:
 
...and beautiful women :wink::grin:
Yeah, I have to give this to you. If I had to pick one country in the entire world that has the best looking women, I'd pick the Czech Republic.
 
Yeah, I have to give this to you. If I had to pick one country in the entire world that has the best looking women, I'd pick the Czech Republic.

I wouldnt go THAT far but I would say Czech women are definitely TOP 5:wink: You cant go wrong here :grin::grin::grin:
 

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I totally agree

Yes, the other 99% of the kid population.

How many kids do you see in the USA who are standing in the middle of a major city street selling cigarettes, one by one, to get enough money to feed their family?

How many kids do you see who only have ONE set of clothes?

How many kids do you see who live in houses that have NEVER had electricity or indoor plumbing?

That is common in the Philippines.

The kids (and people in general) in the USA have never experienced true poverty like it is throughout some of the world. They may have seen it on TV, which in a lot of cases there are households in the PI that have never had a TV.

Tiger Woods never experienced any kind of poverty and neither did 99% of of the athletes you may be referencing. Ask Efren where he was sleeping when he learned to play pool. Ask almost any of the Filipino champions. The majority of them would have killed to have any of things that even the most impoverished people in the USA have. People in the USA are spoiled. I'm an American and live in the USA, but have lived and traveled enough to be able to compare one place to another.

You mention college, which makes me laugh. There are thousands and thousands of kids in the Philippines who drop out of school as adolescents or work to feed their families and themselves.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/stor...ce/a-look-at-dropout-rates-in-the-philippines
you are dead on most people have never experienced the level of poverty that's prevalent in the PI . what Americans consider poor people many Filipinos would be considered rich in comparison . I live in the PI about half of the time I have a place in Clark Angeles city . there are kids as young as 4 years old selling plastic bags at the markets just to get a few pesos so they can have rice for the day . PI is my second home and I love it there but until you experience it first hand on the ground , people have no clue
 
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