No Aiming System?

Track odds before post time are about 8-1 that "Mr. Johnson demonstrating his pool shooting skill" is one video which will never show up.
The tote windows are open.
*waiting*
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I've played Pat he plays pretty good.

I would like to see some videos posted up from you, Cookie, and a few others for starters. Ante up boys.

Lou Figueroa
 
I've played Pat he plays pretty good.

I would like to see some videos posted up from you, Cookie, and a few others for starters. Ante up boys.

Lou Figueroa
As I recall (was that 20 years ago?) you play pretty sporty yourself. But as you know, this isn’t about that - these kids just got their feelings hurt sometime and now they’re acting out. They’ll tire themselves out and fall asleep pretty soon.

pj
chgo
 
You've posted several videos and not only haven't they made you any more credible to me, the fact that you think they should makes you less credible to me.

You're the last person on this planet who I care what he thinks regarding what I did in those videos. I did them because a challenge was put out to everyone on the forum by Colin and do it on video. It was also a challenge to me to see if I could do well or not.

I had the balls to do it. You not only don't have the balls, you have no spine. That video was done on the FIRST TAKE with no practice. The only thing you have is a big mouth trying to paint a picture to everyone that you're the final word in pool expertise. Some of them actually believe it.


So what would I be trying to accomplish?

How about taking on the challenge like the rest of us for starters. And having the backbone to show it to the others on the forum. In your case it's fear of exposure for the hack player you are.

Oh yeah, gaining your respect. Guess I'll have to suck it up and try to learn to live without that.

You will never gain my respect and there's nothing you could do to gain it. If you die before I do and I hear about it I won't even pay my last respects.

pj
chgo

Your response it exactly what I said would happen in my post on the last page:

"I sense double talk, moonwalking, and tap dancing coming up along with insults to me".

Since you are NOT going to do a video because you're deathly afraid of the outcome and your glorious self made reputation going to hell, I'll help the other forum members try to picture a VIDEO of you doing what you said you do a number of years back on RSB while setting up to take a shot. Google archives are the GREATEST!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.billiard
From: Patrick Johnson <REMOV...@21stcentury.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 14:32:45 -0500
Local: Tues, Sep 12 2000 3:32 pm

We've talked about this a few times. I prefer to sight down the
contact point-to-contact point line, but that puts my head in
different positions over the stick depending on the shot and can be
physically difficult for cue ball contact points "outside" the stick,
so I adjust it for comfort and consistency. I also like to move my
head back and forth to sight down more than one of the available
lines, including cue ball path, just for cross reference (I might look
a little like a lizard doing this). I like to know that my stick is
pointing where I want it to, but "sight down the stick" doesn't work
by itself for me.

Pat Johnson
Chicago


I love it!! The PAT JOHNSON CONTACT POINT LIZARD HEAD AIMING AND SHOOTING SYSTEM!

I fully understand why you don't want do a video. You would gain the respect of NOBODY and be laughed off the forum

Maybe your written words will make others at least take pause about your so called ability to play and expertise.

I think it's time for DAMAGE CONTROL. Get on it! Attack me and then talk your way out of it.

ROTFLMFAO!
 
I've played Pat he plays pretty good.

I would like to see some videos posted up from you, Cookie, and a few others for starters. Ante up boys.

Lou Figueroa

Cookie finished 15th in the US Amateur Championship a couple of years ago.
Just in case that doesn't register on your brain, that means the ENTIRE COUNTRY!

And guess what, he did it using CTE. You know what that is don't you? The aiming system that can't possibly work, doesn't work, is completely flawed and sold by a snake oil salesmen to cult followers wearing tin foil hats, decoder rings, who drink Kool-Aid laced with something. You should since it's the exact way YOU described it on this forum and the other. Words directly from a professional Air Force Media Spokesperson. Real class!

You consider yourself an AMATEUR and refer to it that way. Why didn't you or don't you participate in the US AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP? Maybe you could have your dreams come true and get matched up with him in one of the brackets. You'd get a beat down so fast you wouldn't know what hit you.

You had your hands full with John Barton who could have won going into the 2nd day but he coughed it up big time with far, far less experience and knowledge than you have in 1-pocket.
 
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There will be no videos posted of me shooting pool. I am too ashamed of how bad I play...so that won't happen. That's why I have to use an aiming system..because I am no good and the other Mosconi type expert stuff that all you guys use doesn't work for me either.
I know, I know...I am hopeless and should just quit all together. But what can I say...I'm just a sucker for pool games. (And I didn't pay the high price of $40 for a pool cue to end up just using it for a tomato stake in the garden.)
However, I don't come on as a big shot know-it-all either. Mr. Johnson seems to know everything there is about the game, so a video of him demonstrating his skill would be very helpful to many players.
Preaching about what everyone should do to improve and then not showing any demos of his own, certainly doesn't inspire much confidence in the ballyhoo. If, as another post says, he's been going on at it for 20 years, I think it's about time he's the one who needs to (using your words) "ante up."
And...it would serve as a final straw to shutting the mouths of his critics. I'd be more than happy to surrender and eat crow about all this.
The odds have just increased to 10-1 that he won't come through.


If you're going to demand video of a player, then at least in a gesture of good faith, you should post video of yourself first.

I don't care how bad you play, but I want to see it just to have as informed an opinion about your play and knowledge as of the player you're demanding it from. You offer a lot of opinions here, as do a lot of other guys, and that's fine. But if you specifically target someone else to post their bona fides in a video, you should first do so yourself.

Lou Figueroa
 
As I recall (was that 20 years ago?) you play pretty sporty yourself. But as you know, this isn’t about that - these kids just got their feelings hurt sometime and now they’re acting out. They’ll tire themselves out and fall asleep pretty soon.

pj
chgo


Was it that long ago?

Lou Figueroa
wow
 
If you're going to demand video of a player, then at least in a gesture of good faith, you should post video of yourself first.

I don't care how bad you play, but I want to see it just to have as informed an opinion about your play and knowledge as of the player you're demanding it from. You offer a lot of opinions here, as do a lot of other guys, and that's fine. But if you specifically target someone else to post their bona fides in a video, you should first do so yourself.

Lou Figueroa

No go there good buddy. Since Pat Johnson has been in forums for over 20 years with NO VIDEO and asked to do just one many, many times with no effort other than double talk, HIM FIRST!

Low500's one year anniversary here on AZ is next week. Hit him up for a video 19+ years from now which will be equal to the years Pat Johnson has been on pool forums WITHOUT A VIDEO! We gotta keep everything fair and square as well as even steven. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. (or is it lizard?)
 
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If you're going to demand video of a player, then at least in a gesture of good faith, you should post video of yourself first.
I don't care how bad you play, but I want to see it just to have as informed an opinion about your play and knowledge as of the player you're demanding it from. You offer a lot of opinions here, as do a lot of other guys, and that's fine. But if you specifically target someone else to post their bona fides in a video, you should first do so yourself.
Lou Figueroa
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Gesture of good faith? Hah...since when do pool payers make any "gestures of good faith"? What century are you lost in, my man?
And that's not the reason you want to see me post a video of my pathetic playing and we both know it. That lame little hustle won't work.
You and your posse want to laugh at my weak shooting and humiliate me all over the place.....and I will not cooperate with that. Am I scared?? You bet I am...right down to the tips of my toes.
On the other hand, I am not the one pontificating about how to shoot pool better.
Mr. Johnson goes on and on all over this site about what everyone should do or should not do. It's on him to demonstrate that he knows what he's talking about..not me. (even a couple of the fat bellied "instructors" who aren't worth a flip have posted up some of their video work)
I am only a simple student of the game, trying to improve and learn.
I even learned something from you, watching you choke your guts out in that one pocket fiasco against Mr. Barton. Those things were #1 Don't make bad bets. #2 Have a good backer who will help intimidate your opponent and #3 Don't gamble money playing pool against Lou..he will send you into the poorhouse.
I also learned some things from watching the videos of you shooting straights. Those things were #1 Straight pool is old, outdated, and boring. :boring2: #2 Don't dog the 6 ball straight-in to the side pocket like you did. And #3 Don't gamble money playing pool against Lou...he will send you into the poorhouse.
So there. :p
I don't remember where or how you got your feelings hurt on here, but acting out online isn't the way to get over it.

I can see why you follow Spidey's example - he's had his feelings hurt for decades - but he isn't an ideal online role model.

Have a talk with your parents. They understand more than you think.

pj <- kids these days
chgo
 
I don't remember where or how you got your feelings hurt on here, but acting out online isn't the way to get over it.

I can see why you follow Spidey's example - he's had his feelings hurt for decades - but he isn't an ideal online role model.

Have a talk with your parents. They understand more than you think.

pj <- kids these days
chgo

ROTFLMAO! Now aren't you the self-righteous one of all time!

Here you are just coming off a 2 YEAR BAN in March (or was it 3 or LIFETIME with a commuted sentence) and since then getting 4 or 5 WARNINGS from Mr. Wilson on both the Aiming Forum and the Main Forum. You've been real close a number of times again.

Your role model here has never been something to emulate nor on RSB from what I've seen in archives.
 
Here you are just coming off a 2 YEAR BAN in March (or was it 3 or LIFETIME with a commuted sentence) and since then getting 4 or 5 WARNINGS from Mr. Wilson on both the Aiming Forum and the Main Forum. You've been real close a number of times again.
Can you point a couple out to me? I'm sure you don't just make stuff up about people here - that would be dishonest, and that's beneath you... right? :eek:

pj
chgo
 
Can you point a couple out to me? I'm sure you don't just make stuff up about people here - that would be dishonest, and that's beneath you... right? :eek:

pj
chgo

Are you denying that you were BANNED for two years? One of the longest non lifetime bans ever.

I don't have time to go through all of your garbage posts. I'm rushed now as it is.

HERE'S A WARNING FROM MIKE ON THE MAIN FORUM.

You pi**ed off the person who started the thread to no end and a bunch of others with your wise mouth. In the end you said "I'M SOWWY" to save your butt from more.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=472499&page=2

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=472499&page=3
 
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. :)

pj
chgo

I'm damn sure you were banned for TWO YEARS.

Or was it 3?

This thread had a bunch. Mr. Wilson told you to SHUT UP in one of his posts. I'd say it counts as a warning. Post #309

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=6121528#post6121528B]

Here's another one. All three of you were actually surrounding Mr. Wilson and each taking turns attacking him. He gave warnings throughout the thread and finally did what he had to do. CLOSE THE THREAD PERMANENTLY WITH NO ADDITIONAL POSTS.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Johnson View Post
Yes, because it was such a flammable subject it had to be banned from the main forum - more so than any other topic ever. Go figure; it still is, after all these year

Mr. Wilson:
And there you go.

For what it matters, I was also there at rec.sports.billiards and saw the wild west atmosphere and full on flame wars. Then, as now, I'd rather play pool than read or talk about it.

And then...PLONK THE ENTIRE THREAD.

I never made one post in this thread to inflame anything. YOU and the others did it all by yourselves
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How long were you banned for spidey? Just curious because this thread no longer has anything to do with aiming anyway and the aiming forum was much less active when you were not participating.

One month. Are you saying they can't live without me? :thumbup:

Usually they run wild when I'm not around and try to get away with everything. They take advantage of "strength in numbers" by ganging up and piling on in multiples to reinforce each other. They're well trained and experienced as a gang. 20+ years to be exact.
 
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One month. Are you saying they can't live without me? :thumbup:

Usually they run wild when I'm not around and try to get away with everything. They try to take advantage of "strength in numbers." :

In general, there isn't much new discussion in the aiming forum. Seems like the only time something is added it turns into an argument.

There are only so many ways to aim to arrive at the correct spot to make a ball. As long as any system puts you on that correct line, then it works for you. Some systems are easier than others for players to grasp and implement.
 
In general, there isn't much new discussion in the aiming forum. Seems like the only time something is added it turns into an argument.

There are only so many ways to aim to arrive at the correct spot to make a ball. As long as any system puts you on that correct line, then it works for you. Some systems are easier than others for players to grasp and implement.

I agree with you on both statements. However there are a lot more ways to aim than you may realize.

Start HERE: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Aiming-On-...-POOL-LEARN-TO-SHOOT-ships-free-/152827119149
 
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