I'm sure I've said this before, to me it holds water. Magoo's early 2000's John Lewis/BCA and I ran the Jr. Nationals for two years. Jim McDermotts place (not the cue maker). He also owned another room, one of the best in the US for sure. Anywho/Bergman, he was about 14-15 when I first got tah see em, and short. Shane McMinns home court. ( And the tall guy, who ran the cue tip/lathe booth in house. Great old time tall player, his name slips me for now Bob????. ) And Jims employees were the best, managers were even nicer. I saw this Justin....swing, his excessive spin, moving whitey 3 and four rails with good speed control. He reminded me of a mini efren, the waaaaaaay he spun his cue ball with (ObviOus Outside) cueing. He was very aggressive and I mentioned it to John. He agreed, but he said to date, ''the best he ever saw, coming thru the Jr.s was Jesse Bowman'' from twin cites.