Cuetec CF Shaft
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Yes I read that thread when joeyA first made it. Nowhere does he state that the cuetech rep is talking about an aftermarket shaft. And him stating about market demand dictating a 30” shaft sounds like a canned answer to me. Cuetech I believe has never in their decades of cues had a 30” shaft. That right there shows they don’t think the demand for a 30” shaft is worthwhile to build.
I'll take that bet!!! Because the fact is Cuetec has already made their CF shaft with different joints (7 to be exact). The shafts will be sold separately and also as a complete cue. SVB wants a 12.0 so I am guessing that they will make that eventually also. I hit with the latest version which was a Uniloc. They will be out soon and the question is … will they be able to keep up with the demand?
If it ever happens I'm interested to try a c.f. shaft it would be BeCue and the main reasons are above and there is one more... Italy is much closer to Ukraine).
But to tell the truth I'm very happy with my maple playing shaft and I like to work with wood much better than with carbon fiber. So I see only one simple reason to give a c.f. shaft a try and it is just curiousity but this curiousity costs too much yet.
It may be my curiousity will lead me some day to build a c.f. breaking shaft which also could be used for jumping. In these two aspects of the game it really may have some advantages.:thumbup:
Since CF is a very different material from wood, it is not fair to expect they play the same. I would not expect a wooden tennis racket plays the same as a CF one.
I heard Cuetec will make more joint pin types. Not sure if 30" and 31" require different molds. In the end, the market demand has to be enough to justify the extra production cost. Same goes for different tip diameters.
Personally I shoot with a 12.9mm revo.
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I think he meant with the diameter/length/pin type options like you find now with a wood shaft not so much that it would play like one.
But this thread got me looking at becue now for a shaft for my son, I forgot about them, thought it was just all full cues they sold.
As hang-the-9 said, I was talking about diameter, length and various pins.
Why would I buy a c.f. shaft if it was no different than a wooden shaft as far as playability?
You would be correct sir.
If I had known about them before buying a revo i would have went with Becue. However, if revo does not come out with options, I will most likely contact Becue as long as the taper is to my liking.
I would love a c.f. shaft in 12mm, 30" length, long pro taper, with radial pin that weighs between 4.5 and 5 ounces.
I love forward balanced cues.
Rake
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I sent a note to becue, they said they would send a partial to me so it can be finished by someone, the joint they have for sale is a Unilock from them.
They made the prime shaft just for you then.
I play with a prime shaft(has a pro taper) 12mm tip 31"length and is forward balanced and perfectly compliments the CF butt.
Contact them about the radial pin, because they have been sending out blanks(plug installed) where you can have any pin you want installed.
I called predator 4 years ago to discuss the revo prototype and their plans for CF...I even created a big thread with the written interview for everyone to read.
The first sales rep I talked to when I demoed the early REVO said the plan was to be able to build to what the customer requested because the shaft couldn't be altered later like wood.
Its possible to actually do that, as the BeCue guys have proved with their start-up company. So really, with predator, to just go with a set size is really about money and motivation. But it's possible to customize at the manufacturing level.
I can't speak for everyone, but I do know lots of player that say they will not buy a Cuetec.. anything shaft for $450. Especially, if it's gonna be in their pin only, and a diameter even bigger than revo's 12.4.
It seems that Becue is the only c.f. company that will customize to at least a certain degree.
If predator and everyone else getting into c.f. shaft do not get their heads out of their a55, Becue will OWN the future cue sales in anything c.f.
The 30 and 31" lengths are good but it's the diameters and pins that matter most. Heck, we can add an extension but we can't change diameters at all and changing pins ends warranty.
Anyways, I'm glad they are throwing their hat in ring but I hope they are not gonna throw the towel in with it.
A $50 price difference and 1" longer shaft is not gonna cut it with people like myself. I can afford whatever and price don't matter but what does matter, to me, is I want it the way I want it.
Again, I have revo now but unless predator and cuetec.. and anyone else want to compete with Becue they better wise up with c.f..
Sure, there will always be somebody willing to forego what they want to save a few $$$ but not most that I know and most cert6not me.
I want, what I want and the damn way I want it. Yep,lol. Just like burger king..lol
Rake
I'm just a frog hair away from ordering Becue. I can always sell my revo.
These companies that aren't willing to give us at least some of what we want do not deserve our business.
I also prefer a smaller diameter tip: I currently use an OB 11.75, and I don't want to go even to 12.4.
However, I had never heard of Becue, whereas Predator and Cuetec are longstanding cue makers.
Here are facts..... Cuetec already plans 7 different joints for their CF shaft. The will also sell complete cues with their joint. They are seriously talking about making a 12mm dia. shaft. Time will tell, but I think they are headed in the right direction. As previously mentioned, I played wit the 12.5 Uniloc on my custom butt and wanted to steal that shaft!! 
Personally, I like the Revo appeal/advantage of:
* Not having to deal with ding/dents
* Cleaned takes literally 5 to 10 seconds. Wipe it down and if feels new.
* Both of my Revo shafts feel and hit identically.
It's obviously possible to get two wood shafts that hit/feel the same (I have seen this on custom cues with two shafts; however, my guess is that is less common.
As far and LD properties, IMO the Revo (12.4) nearly its the mark of the Z3.
Scale 1 to 10 with the Z3 is a 1 and the 314-3 is a 10, the Revo is an 3.
You sir have a bet. I'll give Cuetech 1 year from when they formally announce their CF shaft to also formally announce they will make it available for competitor cues.
I'll find a way to get you a dozen doughnuts:grin-square:
Here you go, sir....
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=442251
Lots of links, info, AZ member reviews, video demonstrations and an interview with the cue makers....
Like I said, I was sold when they worked with me to get the diameter size I requested. Predator and now Cuetec made custom sizes for many of their pros...and friends...but to the public they only offered their standard lengths and sizes.
These guys get it. The customer should get a CF shaft adapted to themselves, not have to be forced to adapt their game to the shaft because it wasn't offered in their specifications.
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