The Joint

Jointed Cue-Terry Stonier Memorial Tournament

Here is a copy of Angels post on the tournament. Don't miss it. Its not like it used to be, but you have to do it at least once. There are 40+ confirmed in advance already.

38TH ANNUAL REUNION 9-BALL TOURNAMENT
JOINTED CUE BILLIARDS SACRAMENTO
IN MEMORY OF TERRY STONIER
MARCH 17-18, 2007 STARTS AT 12 PM SHARP
OPEN TOURNAMET
$5000 TOTAL PRIZE WITH 90 PLAYERS
$50 ENTRY 1ST PLACE $1000 GUARANTEED
RACE TO 6 DOUBLE ELIMINATION
FINAL 8 TO PLAY ON SUNDAY
TOURNAMET PLAYED ON 17 BRUNSWICK GOLD CROWNS
POOL WORLD FAMOUS CHEESEBURGERS

PAST CHAMPIONS INCLUDE
KIM DAVENPORT(9TIMES)
TONY ANNIGONNI
RAFEAL MARTINEZ
MARK HADDAD
BRYCE AVILA

WE LIMIT FIELD TO 128 IN THE LAST 15 YEARS THAT I CAN REMEMBER THE LEAST WE HAVE HAD IS 93 PLAYERS SO COME AND ENJOY THE ACTION AND THE CHEESEBURGERS COME ON DOWN FRIDAY NITE AND IM SURE THERE WILL BE A RING GAME OR ACTION FOR SURE

YOU CAN EMAIL ME IF YOU WANT ME TO PUT YOU DOWN ON THE ENTRY LIST Ago372@aol.com OR CALL ME ANGEL OLIVAREZ AT HOME AFTER 5PM 559 583 8277 MON-FRI

JOINTED CUE BILLIARDS
2375 FRUITRIDGE RD
SACRAMENTO, CA. 95822
916 456 3243
 
Deadon said:
There was 8 ball and 9 ball. I'll post some of the brackets for you. How do like the competition and payouts.........for the late 70s. 1978 8 ball and 1980 9 ball.

19809BallBracketsresultslowres.jpg


19788BallBrackets1stbracket.jpg


19809BallBrackets1stbrackets.jpg



Mike
Click to expand...


Man... these brackets and photos bring back *SO* many memories. I was never out west in those days but the names in those brackets, wow. These are the guys who permeated the pool world in the mid 70s through the 80s and beyond. In tournaments AND in action, everywhere. We'll never see days like that again, sadly enough. And just look at those brackets. And people these days say back in the day there wasn't the competition there is now? PLEASE.
 
Thank you for resurrecting this thread. I first went there about fifty years ago. I knew Terry, Sandy, and (a very young) David quite well. I bet I attended every one of the tournaments shown.
 
Michael Andros said:
Man... these brackets and photos bring back *SO* many memories. I was never out west in those days but the names in those brackets, wow. These are the guys who permeated the pool world in the mid 70s through the 80s and beyond. In tournaments AND in action, everywhere. We'll never see days like that again, sadly enough. And just look at those brackets. And people these days say back in the day there wasn't the competition there is now? PLEASE.
Click to expand...
That is a helluva list, but I think if you look at the major events, I think you will see today's fields have less 'field'.
 
mbvl said:
Thank you for resurrecting this thread. I first went there about fifty years ago. I knew Terry, Sandy, and (a very young) David quite well. I bet I attended every one of the tournaments shown.
Click to expand...

I can just imagine the level of the action at those tournies. Keith. Cole, Ronnie. Louie. Ambrose, Florence. And on and on and on... people today have NO idea the amount of action at tournaments back then. Look at those prizes. 1K for fourth? And that was a BIG tournament if it got Buddy and Nick and Sigel out to the west coast. Players didn't show up back then for the tournaments, they showed up for the action AT the tournaments. And, yeah, I fully get the fact promoters these days want to "clean up" pool as a sport to try to become legitimate in the eyes of national sponsors, television, etc. i get that. But it just isn't the same anymore. Is there gambling at tournaments these days? Sure. No one will ever get rid of it altogether. But it's nothing like it used to be. And that's too bad. It's a stark dichotomy at work. Everyone wants pool to succeed the same way golf has. But do we have to sell our soul to do it? Apparently so. And, if we're honest, there may not be another *way* to do it. But it's a shame. And it's sad. It was a very unique, very exciting way of life and it's gone now, by and large.
 
Deadon said:
There was 8 ball and 9 ball. I'll post some of the brackets for you. How do like the competition and payouts.........for the late 70s. 1978 8 ball and 1980 9 ball.

...

Mike
Click to expand...
In case anyone tries to search.... (spelling not guaranteed)
Buddy Hall
Mike Sigel
Nick Varner
Dee Hulse (Redwood City room owner and host to Varner)
John Shuput
Ron Rosas
Louie Roberts
Takeshi Okumura
---
1978 Eight Ball:
Richie Florence
Roy Futternick
Vern Peterson
Royce (Surfer Rod?) Curry
Dan Ferris
Bill Amodeo
Al Winchenbaugh
John Avalos
Louie Roberts
"Billy" Ray Suden
John Fleming
Terry Bell
Ken Perry
Frank Lively
Lou Butera
Doug Klisch
Larry Hubbart
Bob Parker
Tony Annigoni
Cole Dickson
Tom Kollins
Jim Hughes
Tom Lively
Ronnie Allen
Vern Fisher
Jack "Napa Jack" Leavitt -- the namer of "squirt"
Wayne Norcross
Danny Cano
"Hawaiian" Brian Hashimoto
Terry Osborne
Dave Ferroni
Dan Louie
Frank Kennedy
Dennis Searcy
Jim Rempe
Gene Ahola
Kim Davenport
Sax Dal Porto
???? Lyons
Ray Felipe
Howard (Hawaiian Howard) Ikeda
Paul "Doc" Brienza
Jerry Jarvis
Nick Cano
Richie Ambrose
Dan D'Imperio
Debbie Cumbra
Ted Ito
Marene Lucas
Steve Donnelly
Dave Cavallo
Ed Davis
Al Ortega
Dick Megiveron
Jim Mataya
Bill Wentworth
Mike Whiting
Audie Perez
Bill Stroud
Jim Hevener
Hank Nole
Harry McConnell
Keith McCreaty (McCready?)
-----
1980 9 Ball:
(First names as above, probably. Some names unknown.)
McCreaty
Swackhammer
(Rodney) Thompson
? Schwartz
Mayaya
? Morella
Annigoni
N. Cano
Varner
Stroud
Futternick
? Kwong
Ahola
Florence
Rosas
Curry
? Jones
Wentworth
Davenport
Leavitt
Ambrose
D. Cano
Grady Mathews
Amodeo
Dan Louie
Klisch
(Scott?) Smith
Hevener
Mike Sigel
Louie Roberts
Winchenbaugh
(Jerry?) Levy
Buddy Hall
Jay Swanson
Billy Graves
Rich "Bucktooth" Cook
Frank Lively
Jim Marino
Jack Madden (AZer)
Bob Parker
Pat Fleming
David Howard
Takeshi Okumura
??? Chapman
Luther Lassiter
??? Newberry
Ikeda
Lance Saunders
Dee Hulse
Lou Butera
Warren "Monk" Costanzo
D'Imperio
Shuput
Kazuo Fujima (has played in the World Pool Masters)
Dal Porto
Brienza
Hashimoto
Warren Lew
Ted Ito
George Middleditch
??? Hubbard
Osborne
Gene? Cooper
Bill Mielke
 
Last edited:
In the 1980 tournament, these players lost their first matches. Tough draws.
Kazuo Fujima
Lou Butera
David Howard
Dan Marino
Bucktooth Cook
Jay Swanson
Louie Roberts
Rod Curry
Richie Florence
Bill Stroud
 
Michael Andros said:
I can just imagine the level of the action at those tournies. Keith. Cole, Ronnie. Louie. Ambrose, Florence. And on and on and on... people today have NO idea the amount of action at tournaments back then. Look at those prizes. 1K for fourth? And that was a BIG tournament if it got Buddy and Nick and Sigel out to the west coast. Players didn't show up back then for the tournaments, they showed up for the action AT the tournaments. And, yeah, I fully get the fact promoters these days want to "clean up" pool as a sport to try to become legitimate in the eyes of national sponsors, television, etc. i get that. But it just isn't the same anymore. Is there gambling at tournaments these days? Sure. No one will ever get rid of it altogether. But it's nothing like it used to be. And that's too bad. It's a stark dichotomy at work. Everyone wants pool to succeed the same way golf has. But do we have to sell our soul to do it? Apparently so. And, if we're honest, there may not be another *way* to do it. But it's a shame. And it's sad. It was a very unique, very exciting way of life and it's gone now, by and large.
Click to expand...

I'm sure the big names came for the action, but THE main reason they showed up was because of Terry. The players loved him and he took very good care of them.
 
hang-the-9 said:
I thought it was "Larry Hubbard", was there a Terry also or just a typo? Related to each-other?
Click to expand...
Sigel's road partner who went on to co-found the APA (with Terry Bell) was Larry Hubbart. I'm not sure who the Hubbard on the chart is. I've changed it to ???.
 
mbvl said:
I'm sure the big names came for the action, but THE main reason they showed up was because of Terry. The players loved him and he took very good care of them.
Click to expand...

Mark - I've no doubt about that. What I meant was, in those days, *everywhere*, it wasn't the tournament itself that attracted players. The size of the cash prizes rarely if ever justified the nut players had to crack to get there, stay and then leave. It was the ACTION that drew them. Not just out west, but *everywhere*. And most of the railbirds spent the majority of their time sweating the action, not the tournament matches. It was what everyone wanted to see. I clearly, like it was yesterday, remember Mike Carella playing Big Bib Osburn at the Citrus Open at Baker's in Tampa, going at it at @ 200 a pop for 2 days straight and it was, literally, standing room only. There must've been 100 people at any given time sweating that game. And that was SOP. Louie playing Sigel, Buddy playing ANYONE, Rempe matching up, Terry Bell, Handsome Danny. It was nonstop. You just don't see that anymore. And, yes, people sweated the tournament matches. But between them and the action? The tournament matches were trying to outrun the nuts...
 
Last edited:
Jack Madden said:
Mike
Second picture is Harold Lyons (player bending over the table) - he is a lifetime resident of the state of Nevada.
Click to expand...

I met Harold , he was 82 I think last time I saw him, and still played pretty good pool.
He told me the story about the slot machines and that what he was doing {which sounded to me like he was just putting pressure on the handle with his hand, was not illegal at the time he did it}.
They passed a law saying it was illegal , made it retroactive and put him in jail for about 17 years over it..
He said when the feds came to get him he was in Binions shooting craps and that when they tried to arrest him Binion told them they could have him when he came outside but not while he was in the casino gambling He said he was there about a week
He plays a respectable game of chess also.
He was in a documentary called Cheating Vegas, they interviewed the guys who had beaten Vegas that were in jail.
lol {Preventive maintenance?}
I hope he's still out there having a good time.
What a cast of great players and gamblers.
That's what I miss when I go to tournaments nowadays,
At the Derby you walk in the action room and it looks like the homeless shelter emptied out.
Depressing to say the least.
 
Last edited:
book collector said:
I met Harold , he was 82 I think last time I saw him, and still played pretty good pool.
He told me the story about the slot machines and that what he was doing {which sounded to me like he was just putting pressure on the handle with his hand, was not illegal at the time he did it}.
They passed a law saying it was illegal , made it retroactive and put him in jail for about 17 years over it..
He said when the feds came to get him he was in Binions shooting craps and that when they tried to arrest him Binion told them they could have him when he came outside but not while he was in the casino gambling He said he was there about a week
He plays a respectable game of chess also.
He was in a documentary called Cheating Vegas, they interviewed the guys who had beaten Vegas that were in jail.
lol {Preventive maintenance?}
I hope he's still out there having a good time.
What a cast of great players and gamblers.
That's what I miss when I go to tournaments nowadays,
At the Derby you walk in the action room and it looks like the homeless shelter emptied out.
Depressing to say the least.
Click to expand...


Amen. :yeah:
 
I wonder where the pictures on the walls of the Jointed Cue went to after it was sold.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top