Your mammmaaaaaaa!!!
How to deny mid-session spot adjustment requests?
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Your mammmaaaaaaa!!!
Agreed, but what some players forget to make clear up front is, say you are 3 sets up playing even and that is the point in which you re-negotiate to give him a spot. Then it needs to be clear that 3 sets up is the threshold, and once he gets back to within 2 sets, that spot is taken away for the next set. As long as you are 3 or more sets up, he keeps getting that spot in future sets until you re-negotiate again, or he quits, but as soon as he gets back to within 2 sets or less, you are playing even again.
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Looks good on paper but in reality it wouldn't work.
Most room goers are not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed so, two or three sets without a crying session from the player seeking a spot (nuts) is a stretch to say the least.
Most of the nut hunters I know would NEVER agree to play that many sets and actually follow through unless the matches was going hill/hill or close. Lol.... then they shouldn't get a spot but would still cry about it.
People should nut-up and play even while in their $$$ comfort zone instead of begging for a spot. Might as well be on street corner with a cup.
If he is playing bad that day and you spot him and lose end the end. Who says he will spot you the next time if your the one hitting them badly and his is in dead punch?
To me, just not a good agreement unless it is someone that you know.
It depends on the situation and what you're trying to get out of it. If you're drilling someone set after set, a ball isn't gonna get them there, so just appease them and then you get a happy customer. If you play multiple sets and none of them are close, but you still say something like "I'm definitely not stealing" then you ARE stealing and you're just bad action. If the sets are all close, then just point that out and say no thanks you gotta get out how you got in. I'm not paying my rent playing pool, so I just try to make a fair game and play better than the other guy while betting a respectable amount that I would still be comfortable losing. That's personally what I'm trying to get out of a trip to my pool room. If you're trying to pay the bills playing pool, or firing off your whole roll or something, then just man up and say "no thanks I'm not adjusting" and be ok with the fact that they probably won't play you again.
I see how you may think that but I view it differently. I like to set the spot at the beginning of the session and stick with it. If you want to adjust you’ll have to do it another day. Same goes for me if I’m the one getting beat.
Just because you’re winning doesn’t necessarily mean you’re better. Maybe you’re feeling hot for a few hours and will likely fade out. Maybe you’ve been getting all the rolls. Maybe your opponent is distracted. Lots of possibilities other than skill that may arise.
Let’s use a casino as an example. If you get on a hot streak for a few hours and start winning should the casino adjust the rules/odds to give them more of an advantage? No! Same goes if you’re losing your ass. The odds are always the same.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. It’s not up to the casino or anyone else to adjust the odds in your favor just because you aren’t winning at the moment.
I'm pretty good at spotting a stall.. having said that, there's a lot of things to
consider here, lots of variables...
I have the man down, say, three sets.. playing even, beating him handily.
He asks for a spot, say the 8 in Nine Ball. Say I beat him two out of three
sets.. the man most likely will quit at that point, unless we're playing
super cheap sets. And I don't think if we play again he's gonna play
any better.
Did he want to raise the bet with the spot?.. or double or nothing
in three sets?
IMO, guys usually quit losers if they're getting beat and you won't
give them weight.. the crying game.
And quitting winners on a guy is still chintzy IMO.
$.02
I agree with what you said. Pretty much same as your above post.
Most people think they can't be hustled but they can be for sure. Some are easier to hustle than others but, in the end, it can happen to most.
If your one of the few that cannot be hustled then your good to go in the above scenario.
I have no problem with someone quitting after a set is finished. Like most, I had "rather" be given some sort of warning with an option before hand.
In the end, there are way to many variables to consider to give definitive answer without saying "if this or if that".
As I said, most are not able to spot the hustle. Now days people have protection from the hustle that was not there before. The protection is social media. As we know, social media killed the hustlers chance for all but the very best.
The OP question, to me, has very few options. He either gives a little something up mid set or they may not finish the set. That brings another question, did they post and who is holding? Again, as most have said, lots of variables to consider.
As usual, most everything we answer on here is mostly a guess at best due to the same reasons. It's still lots of fun regardless. At least on here I can pretend I know what I'm talking about...lol.
Rake
I never understood negotiating during a set, or after a set, letting someone off for a part of the bet.
I have seen it done many times ,but I always had the money posted, unless we had a long history, and I never negotiated, until after our original game was finished .
You are pretty much admitting, you knew you were stealing, and it's ok to renegotiate because you will still be stealing .
Seems goofy to me .
I just say, play better.
I have seen it done many times ,but I always had the money posted, unless we had a long history, and I never negotiated, until after our original game was finished .
You are pretty much admitting, you knew you were stealing, and it's ok to renegotiate because you will still be stealing .
Seems goofy to me .
I just say, play better.
Now THAT is funny!!
Just to clarify, this post is about adjusting mid-session, not mid-set. Meaning, we just finished a few sets and are planning to keep playing more.
Quit when you want between sets ......... up or down, as long as the agreement is met.
As for me, if I make a bad bet I will continue to play and pay off as agreed upon to the "t".
It's not your fault if I'm stupid or vice versa.
Anything else is spineless imo.
Rake
Then just say, "I've been playing over my usual speed tonight and I think the game is pretty close to fair. Let's continue this way for a while or we can play again another night. I don't feel I'm really ahead enough to adjust."
If that's the truth, all the better.
Then just say, "I've been playing over my usual speed tonight and I think the game is pretty close to fair. Let's continue this way for a while or we can play again another night. I don't feel I'm really ahead enough to adjust."
If that's the truth, all the better.
That sounds reasonable but, anyone that has gambled in a lot of strange rooms knows that will probably cause an argument if you are a stranger to that room.
On the other hand, if it's you and your opponent's homeroom, well, you both, as well as most sweaters, should know if one of you is stealing or not.
I understand the need to do "damage control" to make sure you have another game in the future but, at what point should a player that is retired with good income stop coddling the crybabies?
I'm not much on coddling folk. I guess that's one reason I like to play very strong players even-up for cheap instead of beating someone to death, no matter the bet. Not that very strong players don't cry......they do but, if even-up they usually cry about the bet amount not the game itself as they most likely know they have an edge.
Although, I can see where it would matter if a person "wants or needs" the other player's money.
Rake
Being straight out honest is your best best. Just deny their request to adjust the bet or spot, unless you want to, but don't feel an obligation to have to do it regardless of how bad you may be beating them. They can choose to keep playing the same, or choose to quit - their choice. There is nothing out of line about that, and if they wish to throw a tantrum, that's not your problem.
I concur! Desperation trumps reason, every time.