J R Hendy vs One Pocket Ghost

If you mean https://www.facebook.com/bill.meyers.35 which is the page that seems to have an earlier video, I get a "This page isn't available" message. That previous video is https://www.facebook.com/bill.meyers.35/videos/2374307275944523/

It is strange that I can see the video but can't see his main page. Perhaps I need to be a member?

https://www.facebook.com/bill.meyers.35/videos/2374350942606823/

You might need to be a member, I guess, to see his page.
 
I can see the video with the direct link but I guess he only lets his friends see his page.

Thanks.
One Pocket.org's Facebook page was also showing Bill's video. I don't know if you have to be a member or Like that page to view it.
 
Any idea how many hours of play it took for the 17 games?

About 15 hours (3 days x 5 hours each). The game I watched took more than 1.5 hours. :eek:

pj
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Yikes. That's an average of about 53 minutes per game -- more than double the average game length in most of the events I have tracked.

[And without that 1½ hour game you mentioned (and I don't know whether that was the longest game), it's still about 51 min./game.]
 
Yikes. That's an average of about 53 minutes per game -- more than double the average game length in most of the events I have tracked.

[And without that 1½ hour game you mentioned (and I don't know whether that was the longest game), it's still about 51 min./game.]


From the limited portion I watched that was all on one guy. The other guy seemed to go straight to the shot most times.

Lou Figueroa
 
About 15 hours (3 days x 5 hours each). The game I watched took more than 1.5 hours. :eek: ...
According to another thread, that's brisk one pocket.:)

The longest single game I ever saw was a game of golf at Hardtimes in Bellflower at four and a half hours and I came in when one of the four or five players was on the four hole.
:boring:
 
From the limited portion I watched that was all on one guy. The other guy seemed to go straight to the shot most times.

Lou Figueroa

Ghost looks em over a bit but not even close to the slowest. Old school for sure:boring2:
 
Ghost looks em over a bit but not even close to the slowest. Old school for sure:boring2:


Well ya.

But there was also the issue of missing balls by a margin that didn’t even threaten the pocket AND THEN (sometimes) running 1.

Lou Figueroa
 
First let me clarify that I didn't see the match. I do watch one pocket sometimes, whenever there are creative and aggressive players playing. Not a fan of 1.5 hour wedge games.

However...When players are truely struggling to put balls in the hole, as it were, I find it quite puzzling that nobody questions the pocket sizes used. To me it seems as if pockets are sized so small for one pocket as to discourage shooting. I can appreciate the people who enjoy a bit of tactical play. I play a lot of snooker and blackball, and it certainly is a huge part of both of those games, but still, in the end it's all about putting balls in the pockets. Blackball certainly has tiny pockets, but then again, the table itself is tiny, so there is always a good chance to play offensively.

As far as snooker is concerned, nobody would want to watch even decent level amateurs on a pro snooker table, like on tv. The pockets are just too small. Nobody would get any runs together. You need to be at least a semi pro to play half decent on them.

When pockets are too small for the players (relative to their skill), the threat to the safety player is greatly diminished, as is the general stress level of the game. Errors are not forced to the same degree as a more realistic table, where the safeties have to be perfect, in order to stop the player from running out. The whole thing becomes a test of patience, rather than a tense contest. I just watched the warming up, and noticed that the pockets were tiny (not sure what the sizes actually were). If the players were indeed struggling, then that certainly wouldn't help matters.

My feeling is that the insisting upon smaller and smaller pockets (even in one pocket) is a misunderstanding based upon disregarding the totality of the game, in order to remove the advantage of shotmakers. The problem is, that this doesn't reward tactical play, as much as NOT punishing sloppy tactical play. There is a difference. At the very highest level, this barrier too shooting is mostly overcome by sheer brute force. Still, I think we'd se a lot more delicate, explosive and creative one pocket with normal (pro) size pockets. It might even have made matches such as these more exciting.

This is just an observation, btw, not a call to change one pocket.
 
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First let me clarify that I didn't see the match. I do watch one pocket sometimes, whenever there are creative and aggressive players playing. Not a fan of 1.5 hour wedge games.

However...When players are truely struggling to put balls in the hole, as it were, I find it quite puzzling that nobody questions the pocket sizes used. To me it seems as if pockets are sized so small for one pocket as to discourage shooting. I can appreciate the people who enjoy a bit of tactical play. I play a lot of snooker and blackball, and it certainly is a huge part of both of those games, but still, in the end it's all about putting balls in the pockets. Blackball certainly has tiny pockets, but then again, the table itself is tiny, so there is always a good chance to play offensively.

As far as snooker is concerned, nobody would want to watch even decent level amateurs on a pro snooker table, like on tv. The pockets are just too small. Nobody would get any runs together. You need to be at least a semi pro to play half decent on them.

When pockets are too small for the players (relative to their skill), the threat to the safety player is greatly diminished, as is the general stress level of the game. Errors are not forced to the same degree as a more realistic table, where the safeties have to be perfect, in order to stop the player from running out. The whole thing becomes a test of patience, rather than a tense contest. I just watched the warming up, and noticed that the pockets were tiny (not sure what the sizes actually were). If the players were indeed struggling, then that certainly wouldn't help matters.

My feeling is that the insisting upon smaller and smaller pockets (even in one pocket) is a misunderstanding based upon disregarding the totality of the game, in order to remove the advantage of shotmakers. The problem is, that this doesn't reward tactical play, as much as NOT punishing sloppy tactical play. There is a difference. At the very highest level, this barrier too shooting is mostly overcome by sheer brute force. Still, I think we'd se a lot more delicate, explosive and creative one pocket with normal (pro) size pockets. It might even have made matches such as these more exciting.

This is just an observation, btw, not a call to change one pocket.

I was there and matched up with another player early on the second day of their match on that same table. It wasn't that difficult of a table. John told me the same thing the night before at dinner.
 
Well ya.

But there was also the issue of missing balls by a margin that didn’t even threaten the pocket AND THEN (sometimes) running 1.

Lou Figueroa

You know you play around the same speed as both of us don’t you? We are old, we miss, and we bet enough to put some pressure on ourselves.

Did you see any good shots, seems you only remember the bad ones.:grin:
 
You know you play around the same speed as both of us don’t you? We are old, we miss, and we bet enough to put some pressure on ourselves.

Did you see any good shots, seems you only remember the bad ones.:grin:

John I watched, there were plenty of good shots. You had some really good thin cuts that had perfect speed. You and the Ghost were good at leaving the cue ball on or very near the rail for the opponent. We are all old;) but I learned a lot from watching this match and can understand the pressure. Thanks for putting yourself out there:cool:
 
John I watched, there were plenty of good shots. You had some really good thin cuts that had perfect speed. You and the Ghost were good at leaving the cue ball on or very near the rail for the opponent. We are all old;) but I learned a lot from watching this match and can understand the pressure. Thanks for putting yourself out there:cool:

Exactly, and let's not forget although these guys are both very good players during 5+ hour matches everybody misses now and then..lol I know I missed plenty on that table earlier. Of course Lou being Lou always finds fault with anything that doesnt involve him.. Lighten up a little bro it was a fun deal with plenty of great shots and moves. I think the sad thing here is these two pool Icons put themselves out there at their own expense to show a fun match to the pool world and they have to fade criticism. Pitiful.
 
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