If you were trying to look like an idiot, you have succeeded! Congratulations
Doubt you can hit the end rail with ball in hand and two tries.
Jason
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If you were trying to look like an idiot, you have succeeded! Congratulations
Doubt you can hit the end rail with ball in hand and two tries.
Jason
Funny stuff.
Pool doesn’t have a bad name. People in general don’t think poorly about pool. People in general simply don’t think about pool at all.
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Pool doesn’t have a bad name. People in general don’t think poorly about pool. People in general simply don’t think about pool at all.
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The smart winner would not agree to doubling up.
Casinos don't let you perpetually double up, because eventually you will win and even things up, negating all the previous wins for the house. Then you play till you're ahead and then quit on them.
In pool, it also screams hustle. Sometimes it can just be the desperate last efforts of a loser to make up ground or get out of the hole, or it could be a trap. So many variables. If the sets were real close, then the double up is just the loser trying to catch up. If the sets were beat downs and lopsided....then that is suspicious because why would the loser feel so bold and confident to ask for double? Either way, a masterful hustler can keep sets close and dump. So that isn't even a valid way to look at it.
In this thread, the loser quit which is proper protocol. The winner did not quit on him, even though that is still the winner's right (although it is dishonorable and nitty to do that). The loser quit because of the refusal to double the bet. The winner did nothing wrong, nitty or crappy by refusing a double against someone he's ahead on. If he was willing to continue at the same bet, he's doing the right thing.
What does this say about the loser's motivation? Hard to tell. If he's a hustler he may not want to waste his time winning back the sets at the same bet. Because that will surely alarm the early winner and he'll just quit once even.
Lot of speculating, have to be there in person to see the caliber of player, see what is happening.
I see no issue with anything that happened.
Casinos don't let you perpetually double up, because eventually you will win and even things up, negating all the previous wins for the house. Then you play till you're ahead and then quit on them.
In pool, it also screams hustle. Sometimes it can just be the desperate last efforts of a loser to make up ground or get out of the hole, or it could be a trap. So many variables. If the sets were real close, then the double up is just the loser trying to catch up. If the sets were beat downs and lopsided....then that is suspicious because why would the loser feel so bold and confident to ask for double? Either way, a masterful hustler can keep sets close and dump. So that isn't even a valid way to look at it.
In this thread, the loser quit which is proper protocol. The winner did not quit on him, even though that is still the winner's right (although it is dishonorable and nitty to do that). The loser quit because of the refusal to double the bet. The winner did nothing wrong, nitty or crappy by refusing a double against someone he's ahead on. If he was willing to continue at the same bet, he's doing the right thing.
What does this say about the loser's motivation? Hard to tell. If he's a hustler he may not want to waste his time winning back the sets at the same bet. Because that will surely alarm the early winner and he'll just quit once even.
Lot of speculating, have to be there in person to see the caliber of player, see what is happening.
I see no issue with anything that happened.
Oh no?....I asked a guy on the street the other day directions to a store...
He said "Go north on Bathurst, turn left on Eglinton, two blocks and it's a hanger."
So I said "What's your best game?"
He says "Tell me yours, I'll make it mine.".
Oh no?....I asked a guy on the street the other day directions to a store...
He said "Go north on Bathurst, turn left on Eglinton, two blocks and it's a hanger."
So I said "What's your best game?"
He says "Tell me yours, I'll make it mine.".
Love it.
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25
50
100
200
400
800
1600
3200
And finally 5,000
That's a whole lot of double ups. And to the rest of that nonsense, it falls in the same category as your "cant double up theory" - completely untrue.
Do any of you even gamble?
Jason
And for those who are interested in the theory of doubling up each time, here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system)
Pool was doing better when it was mainly associated with hustlers, gambling and seedy poolhalls.
You can't lose, you can just run out of money.
Works better with games of pure chance (ie roulette). Sure you could luck a win in pool but in a longer set at the amateur level, if there is a significant difference in skill, the better player is always going to win.
Races to 5 though, the B player could luck a win against a shortstop here and there. So lets say you used this system and you are the B player. You lost 2 sets and are now playing for 200 to get back what you lost and be 50 bucks ahead. You win, you are now up 50....
If you are the underdog, how do you proceed?
Do you quit?
Do you reset for 50 dollar sets?
Do you continue at at 200?
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Jason, you don't even know the guy who walked away? Is he gambler, that needs a steady diet of suckers to pay the rent? Or, is he working a job, and playing cheap sets is his think on the weekends?
How do you know if he plays worse once the bet is doubled, maybe he is now uncomfortable with that much on the line, even being up, he's now thinking about it.
Artie B liked to always raise the best before he even started. If guys wanted to play for $200 per game, he made it $400 as he wanted them out of their comfort zone.
The guy does not care if he gambles again most likely, so what, he'll play someone else some cheap sets. You are taking a hard line position for a guy you don't even know. Personally, i'd take the cash and make it an early night.... I've left tourney's I was still in because it was 1am and I'd just rather go home and sleep that slog it out for a few more bucks.
That's why the "winner" is begging him to play and the guy refuses. He will never win another dollar from the loser now.
Greedy lolololol. Nice try!
Jason
Look like an idiot? Jeez, for what, stating his opinion?
And at some point your are betting a million dollars* to win your original dollar back. All you have to do is find a place/situation that does not impose a limit. Good luck.
(* technically it would be 1,048,576 dollars)
Oh no?....I asked a guy on the street the other day directions to a store...
He said "Go north on Bathurst, turn left on Eglinton, two blocks and it's a hanger."
So I said "What's your best game?"
He says "Tell me yours, I'll make it mine.".
My advice? Get staked... :yeah:
Start over and Back it and jack it are 2 different things and not really the same as OP was talking about.
OTE=ThinSlice;6297758]Listen to this one. Kinda runs the same direction of the OP.
I was bored and decided to go to my local pool hall last night. I just recently broke my foot on vacation so I am wearing an air boot. Wasn’t sure if I was going to play but, brought my cue just in case. Figured maybe a ring game would allow me to hit some balls yet give my foot a rest in-between. So I am there and well I see someone whom I play 1 pocket with just for fun. Reclusive guy. Known him for decades from my former pool days. Hasn’t changed a bit. So I play 3 games of one pocket. I win 2. Now generally I never beat him. So I am in stroke with a bum foot. As we are finishing up in walks the owner and also a couple guys I play in the weekly tournament with. We are all friends and as I said I figured a ring game. Well, one of the gentlemen I have played before in a money match. Couple weeks back we played race to 5 for $50. I gave him the 8. He wins the first set and we go hill on the second match before we are interrupted by the tournament starting. So I pay his $50 and we postpone the 1 game till we can play again. Which ends up being next week. So we blast the one game and he wins. So I hand him his $50 and continue my evening. Well, as luck would have it or not he comes up to me and says let’s play last night. Continues to say we have no interruptions. I finally agree and we set the game but this time he wants a race to 7 still gets the 8 and wants to go for a hundred. Not sure if he felt he could beat my game or if my foot gave him an advantage. Either way...coin flip, break and away we go. He wins the first set. I am down $100 and he is happy as can be. We flip and enter into another set. He has me down 4-2. I catch up and the match ends up hill hill my break when he says do you want to start over? Now I never understand why people do this but I figure he is giving up his advantage so I say sure but this time he wants to go for $200. I agree. I win the next 2 sets and walk away with $300. He later admitted that starting over was a mistake. I agree it was a mistake. In my case the winner wanted to double.
Bottom line is things like this happen all the time. I personally don’t disagree with what either player wanted to do according to the OP. Although unless you know the player and his or her speed it’s better to let them work their way back at the original bet than to be had by someone holding back and making a sucker out of you when they change their speed and you end up in the hole. If you both even out and either want to change the bet then that’s a new game and a new set of rules where everything can be renegotiated. The amount, the spot and the length.
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OTE=ThinSlice;6297758]Listen to this one. Kinda runs the same direction of the OP.
I was bored and decided to go to my local pool hall last night. I just recently broke my foot on vacation so I am wearing an air boot. Wasn’t sure if I was going to play but, brought my cue just in case. Figured maybe a ring game would allow me to hit some balls yet give my foot a rest in-between. So I am there and well I see someone whom I play 1 pocket with just for fun. Reclusive guy. Known him for decades from my former pool days. Hasn’t changed a bit. So I play 3 games of one pocket. I win 2. Now generally I never beat him. So I am in stroke with a bum foot. As we are finishing up in walks the owner and also a couple guys I play in the weekly tournament with. We are all friends and as I said I figured a ring game. Well, one of the gentlemen I have played before in a money match. Couple weeks back we played race to 5 for $50. I gave him the 8. He wins the first set and we go hill on the second match before we are interrupted by the tournament starting. So I pay his $50 and we postpone the 1 game till we can play again. Which ends up being next week. So we blast the one game and he wins. So I hand him his $50 and continue my evening. Well, as luck would have it or not he comes up to me and says let’s play last night. Continues to say we have no interruptions. I finally agree and we set the game but this time he wants a race to 7 still gets the 8 and wants to go for a hundred. Not sure if he felt he could beat my game or if my foot gave him an advantage. Either way...coin flip, break and away we go. He wins the first set. I am down $100 and he is happy as can be. We flip and enter into another set. He has me down 4-2. I catch up and the match ends up hill hill my break when he says do you want to start over? Now I never understand why people do this but I figure he is giving up his advantage so I say sure but this time he wants to go for $200. I agree. I win the next 2 sets and walk away with $300. He later admitted that starting over was a mistake. I agree it was a mistake. In my case the winner wanted to double.
Bottom line is things like this happen all the time. I personally don’t disagree with what either player wanted to do according to the OP. Although unless you know the player and his or her speed it’s better to let them work their way back at the original bet than to be had by someone holding back and making a sucker out of you when they change their speed and you end up in the hole. If you both even out and either want to change the bet then that’s a new game and a new set of rules where everything can be renegotiated. The amount, the spot and the length.
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Lets go further.
Horses cant breath through their mouths.
When a racehorse runs , the nostrils open wider to take in more air.
So when a horse is running full throttle, his nose is open.
Shhhh keep it under your hat. :smilewinkgrin:
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If anyone needs to know why the sky is blue, or what the meaning of life is etc, I dont work for free. :thumbup: