Straight pool challenge

jasonlaus said:
The great thing about living in America is - YOU can put YOUR $$$$ up and create whatever event you want. Stop complaining and do it Mosconi
Jason
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Funny how, on this site., seems like someone having an opinion on something is met by such desire to "challenge" - relax friend - I don't like set - up "make believes" in any sport- like home run derby, dunking contests, Guiness book B.S. etc. I feel that competition adds a dimension to performance that makes or breaks true Champions- and THAT is what I enjoy following in any sport- the "make- believe stuff" is just that to me.
 
mikemosconi said:
Yes, I understood the point of the poster exactly. and my comment, along those lines was NOT to demean anyone's skills at the game, or degrade those who had higher runs in their attempts. It was simply to express an opinion that I would rather see more efforts put into 14.1 quality competitive events than these silly "practice table" type high run attempts. As a player and long time fan of 14.1 I hate seeing the game , in my opinion, "degraded " or maybe rather just not appreciated for the game it really is and once was; and just relegated mostly to "run attempts". I think there may be a lot of 14.1 people that would agree with me.
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Thanks, that was a good response.
 
mikemosconi said:
Funny how, on this site., seems like someone having an opinion on something is met by such desire to "challenge" - relax friend - I don't like set - up "make believes" in any sport- like home run derby, dunking contests, Guiness book B.S. etc. I feel that competition adds a dimension to performance that makes or breaks true Champions- and THAT is what I enjoy following in any sport- the "make- believe stuff" is just that to me.
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Except these are actual runs and not make believe. if you don't like it, don't watch it - another great thing about living in this country. There's a seat for every a$$.
Jason
 
mikemosconi said:
Yes, I understood the point of the poster exactly. and my comment, along those lines was NOT to demean anyone's skills at the game, or degrade those who had higher runs in their attempts. It was simply to express an opinion that I would rather see more efforts put into 14.1 quality competitive events than these silly "practice table" type high run attempts. As a player and long time fan of 14.1 I hate seeing the game , in my opinion, "degraded " or maybe rather just not appreciated for the game it really is and once was; and just relegated mostly to "run attempts". I think there may be a lot of 14.1 people that would agree with me.
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Yes, 14.1 is a great competitive game, and of course there are far more aspects to them game than long runs - since so few are capable of that. However, for all 14.1 lovers, there is something very magical about challenging your personal high run in straight pool, even if it is obtained in a practice session. Yes, obviously it means way more if that personal best high run is achieved in competition than in solo practice - no different than announcing a personal best for consecutive 9-ball B&R's you've had in a solo practice session vs in a tournament match - there is no comparison as one means virtually nothing.
 
mikemosconi said:
Yes, I understood the point of the poster exactly. and my comment, along those lines was NOT to demean anyone's skills at the game, or degrade those who had higher runs in their attempts. It was simply to express an opinion that I would rather see more efforts put into 14.1 quality competitive events than these silly "practice table" type high run attempts. As a player and long time fan of 14.1 I hate seeing the game , in my opinion, "degraded " or maybe rather just not appreciated for the game it really is and once was; and just relegated mostly to "run attempts". I think there may be a lot of 14.1 people that would agree with me.
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I know you feel slammed from folks about this.

Denis Walsh (a great lover of 14.1) has really put efforts to help 14.1 not just breath but strive.

My thoughts to you would be to perhaps try to help organize small tournaments or perhaps a 14.1 Armature League. Maybe name it The Mosconi Legacy League (yea I'm cool with that being used).

I just think that someone with passion can accomplish a lot as long as it's coupled with Drive...

Pete
 
deanoc said:
Dear middleof nowhere

please look at the results in the very next post on the last page

settle down ,I just saw the results so far and counted to see how many ran 30 balls
in the contest

perhaps you would like to try and run 30 balls for a few thousand dollars

dean

funny how people on az love to fly off the handle over nothing
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I will bet you, or anyone who doesn't believe me, $2000.00 I can't run 30. I might get a 15 if you give me enough tries.
 
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book collector said:
I will bet you, or anyone who doesn't believe me, $2000.00 I can't run 30. I might get a 15 if you give me enough tries.
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Make the rules 'no call shots' and you shot speed has to be at least 10 MPH...
....you got action.


Wouldn't you just hate losing that bet...:lDl
 
mikemosconi said:
Yes, I understood the point of the poster exactly. and my comment, along those lines was NOT to demean anyone's skills at the game, or degrade those who had higher runs in their attempts. It was simply to express an opinion that I would rather see more efforts put into 14.1 quality competitive events than these silly "practice table" type high run attempts. As a player and long time fan of 14.1 I hate seeing the game , in my opinion, "degraded " or maybe rather just not appreciated for the game it really is and once was; and just relegated mostly to "run attempts". I think there may be a lot of 14.1 people that would agree with me.
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There are 3 tournaments in the US that maybe you should consider trying to become a part of the team to build it up even higher. The American 14.1, The World 14.1 Tournament and the Us Open 14.1. Have you considered reaching out to those promoter to see how you can help?

I honestly think an US Amateur 14.1 event would do well if done correctly. The problem would be trying to get all these leagues on the same page with each other. Which is why I think the current US Amateur Championship is dumb. But the league system in this country needs a major overhaul first.
 
book collector said:
I will bet you, or anyone who doesn't believe me, $2000.00 I can't run 30. I might get a 15 if you give me enough tries.
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Never saw anyone bet on how many balls they can't run. How can you lose? What are you going to do if you get to 29? :eek::smile:
 
jviss said:
My view is that straight pool, 14.1, is one of the only "pure" billiard games. By the Is mean, that in it's most basic state that it works as a game without having to resort to special rules to keep it interesting and competitive.
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Before straight pool was 14.1 it was 15.0. Every new rack started with 15 balls racked and safety play to get into it. 14.1 was invented to speed it up and make it more interesting. So, really, even "straight pool" had to be fiddled with a bit until they settled on the rules we have today. I'm sure it was the same in the beginning of every sport, too. Basketball didn't used to have a shot clock so the game degenerated into the leading team playing keep away.
 
Dan White said:
Before straight pool was 14.1 it was 15.0. Every new rack started with 15 balls racked and safety play to get into it. 14.1 was invented to speed it up and make it more interesting. So, really, even "straight pool" had to be fiddled with a bit until they settled on the rules we have today. I'm sure it was the same in the beginning of every sport, too. Basketball didn't used to have a shot clock so the game degenerated into the leading team playing keep away.
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Interesting. Still pretty "pure," though, not a lot of fiddling with rules to keep it working.

When did the switch to 14.1 occur?
 
jviss said:
Interesting. Still pretty "pure," though, not a lot of fiddling with rules to keep it working.

When did the switch to 14.1 occur?
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I agree that straight pool is the "real" game. Any game where you have to take 6 balls off the table before you play isn't real pool. lol.

From Wikipedia:

Straight pool is derived from an earlier pool game called continuous pool. Like its successor, in continuous pool a player has to score a certain number of points (usually 100) to win the match, and a point is earned for every object ball legally pocketed. However, a new rack does not start until all the object balls have been pocketed. When the new rack begins, the object balls are racked at the foot spot, and the player has to break from behind the head string. As players become skilled in scoring dozens of points in a single turn, they would often employ defensive shots in breaks to avoid risk of giving their opponents runout opportunities. Because of this, Jerome Keogh, who was a winner of numerous tournaments, came up with the idea in 1910 of reracking the balls while there's still an object ball on the table, therefore encouraging players to be more offensive. This new game became 14.1 continuous and would a few years later be called straight pool. The name 14.1 continuous comes from the fact that 14 balls are shot with one remaining to continue the shot and break the new rack.
 
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