US OPEN 9 Ball payouts?!?

[Bob Jewett]

... I don't see where the prize money breakdown is posted. ...

It appeared on the US Open web page (as shown above) the first week of April, 2019, about three weeks before the event and ten weeks after the field was full. It was only the total that was announced over a year before the event.

I guess my point is that "Matchroom is running a nine ball tournament in Las Vegas with a $300,000 prize fund guaranteed" is enough info to get the field they did. I hope any player who is unhappy with the breakdown lets Matchroom know.

 

[Bob Jewett]

MR probably paid 10K to commentators. Another 3K to TV table ref.

I can't imagine the camera crew for a 6 day event.

For sure they run a big budget.

I counted about 40 ushers/ticket monitors/bouncers/etc. during the first three days. There were at least 32 scorekeepers -- not sure about relief workers. About 10-12 referees.

240+ person-days (8:30AM to 11PM) for "minor" personnel during the first three days. I imagine they each got more than $100 per day considering Vegas is a strong union town.

The Mosconi Cup had a total crew of about 120 for four days.

 

[Island Drive]

I talked with Head Ref John. Since each table had a score keep and then a roaming ref that I think racked for 4 tables?, waiting sometimes was two minutes before you got your rerack. I suggested get rid of the roaming ball racker have him also become the score keeper, it's not rocket science. That would rid you of 8 area refs, and then allow the person who handles the table do it all and you pay em MORE.

 

[realkingcobra]

I counted about 40 ushers/ticket monitors/bouncers/etc. during the first three days. There were at least 32 scorekeepers -- not sure about relief workers. About 10-12 referees.

240+ person-days (8:30AM to 11PM) for "minor" personnel during the first three days. I imagine they each got more than $100 per day considering Vegas is a strong union town.

The Mosconi Cup had a total crew of about 120 for four days.

So the unions supply the referees and score keepers...really?

 

[realkingcobra]

I counted about 40 ushers/ticket monitors/bouncers/etc. during the first three days. There were at least 32 scorekeepers -- not sure about relief workers. About 10-12 referees.

240+ person-days (8:30AM to 11PM) for "minor" personnel during the first three days. I imagine they each got more than $100 per day considering Vegas is a strong union town.

The Mosconi Cup had a total crew of about 120 for four days.

The unions have no involvement in loading in, setting up, or loading out all the pool tables. They ARE involved in the BCA trade show, but again, have NOTHING to do with the BCA league events either.

 

[jay helfert]

I counted about 40 ushers/ticket monitors/bouncers/etc. during the first three days. There were at least 32 scorekeepers -- not sure about relief workers. About 10-12 referees.

240+ person-days (8:30AM to 11PM) for "minor" personnel during the first three days. I imagine they each got more than $100 per day considering Vegas is a strong union town.

The Mosconi Cup had a total crew of about 120 for four days.

Bob, the "union" or unions had nothing to do with all those people working for Matchroom at the tournament. These people were all recruited from the local pool community. Why you would think that puzzles me. They were actually paid less than $100 per day, but may have had other perks, like free admission when they weren't working and food comps.

 

[Bob Jewett]

Bob, the "union" or unions had nothing to do with all those people working for Matchroom at the tournament. These people were all recruited from the local pool community. Why you would think that puzzles me. They were actually paid less than $100 per day, but may have had other perks, like free admission when they weren't working and food comps.

OK for the 32+ scorekeepers, but I don't think the ushers and security people -- in suits and uniforms -- were pool-room recruits.

 

[realkingcobra]

OK for the 32+ scorekeepers, but I don't think the ushers and security people -- in suits and uniforms -- were pool-room recruits.

Those people are casino employees, not extra hired people paid for by the tournament director.

 

[Bob Jewett]

Those people are casino employees, not extra hired people paid for by the tournament director.

One way or another, Matchroom paid for them, even if it was by guaranteed room-nights or food sales. Do you really believe all those workers were comped?

 

[realkingcobra]

One way or another, Matchroom paid for them, even if it was by guaranteed room-nights or food sales. Do you really believe all those workers were comped?

No, I believe they're all employed by the casino, by the job description you provided, regardless of the tournament taking place.

 

[Bob Jewett]

No, I believe they're all employed by the casino, by the job description you provided, regardless of the tournament taking place.

And I believe that the effective price of running the tournament was increased for Matchroom because of those workers as compared to an event that did not require 20 or so security people and 20 or so ushers. I don't think the hotel ignored the requirement in the event contract.

 

[8cree]

No, I believe they're all employed by the casino, by the job description you provided, regardless of the tournament taking place.

This^^^

I was there for the final 3 days and VIP for Friday. I spoke with the bar keep and some staff... the were Mandalay Bay employees. They constantly work all sorts of conventions and events. They did a good job IMO. And to be honest the first 3 days of facebook streaming had the best commentary, admittingly I have only listened to some of the commentary from Friday watching it on youtube looking for me and my lady in the crowd LOL

I wish I could make it back for the Mosconi Cup in November

 

[realkingcobra]

And I believe that the effective price of running the tournament was increased for Matchroom because of those workers as compared to an event that did not require 20 or so security people and 20 or so ushers. I don't think the hotel ignored the requirement in the event contract.

You sure do a lot of guessing, did you get sent a bill for your portion of the cost of the event that you're disputing...or are you just speculating what it MIGHT have cost?

 

[realkingcobra]

And I believe that the effective price of running the tournament was increased for Matchroom because of those workers as compared to an event that did not require 20 or so security people and 20 or so ushers. I don't think the hotel ignored the requirement in the event contract.

Why not just pay attention to counting your own money instead of trying to figure out the cost of things for matchroom, who cares anyway....it is what it is.

 

[KAP1976]

Matchroom may want to consider going to the model the PGA Tour uses and solicit volunteers to keep score and do usher work. Toss 'em some free gear and passes to the events for the week, possibly group rate discount on hotel if they're coming from out of town. Hell, to volunteer for most big golf events the volunteer has to pay for their own shirts.