Justin Bergman going to Mosconi Cup for Team USA
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I have mixed feelings here. Justin Bergman is, quite obviously, America's second best 9-ball player right now, but it's no more obvious now than it was a week ago.
Deuel and Eberle were advised that they were the only ones in contention for the last Team USA spot, and I'm not sure what happened here was fair to them, as it, arguably, invalidated the methodology that was used for selection and will cast a big shadow on future selection processes.
Johan, as he contended, did what was necessary to improve Team USA's chances as much as possible. To him, the ends justified the means. For me, I'm not nearly as sure.
The selection process for Team USA needs to be far better defined in 2020, must be announced early, and must be adhered to rigorously.
Congrats to Justin Bergman on his selection. Great guy, great player.
Deuel and Eberle were advised that they were the only ones in contention for the last Team USA spot, and I'm not sure what happened here was fair to them, as it, arguably, invalidated the methodology that was used for selection and will cast a big shadow on future selection processes.
Johan, as he contended, did what was necessary to improve Team USA's chances as much as possible. To him, the ends justified the means. For me, I'm not nearly as sure.
The selection process for Team USA needs to be far better defined in 2020, must be announced early, and must be adhered to rigorously.
Congrats to Justin Bergman on his selection. Great guy, great player.
I totally agree. Just think the process could be streamlined and a tad more transparent. All coach has to say is that all cards are on the table thru the Int'lOpen. ME and CD have right to be po'd somewhat but they're pros and they'll deal with it. Go Team USA!!!
Justin and sky were amazing as partners a few years ago. You now have a fantastic younger core with Shane as the veteran. It is a solid team that can grow together.
I agree, I also think MR will look at how this was portrayed and make necessary changes for the selection process in the near future, I'm hoping so anyway.
Cheers,
Your right, fella, it's time to look forward. The team has been chosen and that's that. Now it's time to play well.
BCA Jr. Nationals
As it did me.
I remember vividly, watching him play at Magoo's when he was 14 and 15 yr old at the Jr. Nationals.
I was working with John Lewis of the BCA and our BCA room members, in supporting and holding this annual event.
I remember now saying when I first saw him, ''he swings the cue like a mini Efren''. He had a Big Swing, lots of spin....played very aggressive, played about a ball under the 18 yr old winner. I was impressed at the time, seeing a 14 yr old Kid, play that good. His swing was Always natural. Like the Timi Bloomberg family, born ''cue in hand''.
As it did me.
I remember vividly, watching him play at Magoo's when he was 14 and 15 yr old at the Jr. Nationals.
I was working with John Lewis of the BCA and our BCA room members, in supporting and holding this annual event.
I remember now saying when I first saw him, ''he swings the cue like a mini Efren''. He had a Big Swing, lots of spin....played very aggressive, played about a ball under the 18 yr old winner. I was impressed at the time, seeing a 14 yr old Kid, play that good. His swing was Always natural. Like the Timi Bloomberg family, born ''cue in hand''.
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My home boy Shane McM. won that three in a row then Justin won it three times also. I was at Magoo's also. You could tell JB was gonna be a top player.
a bit weird, but then again it's the same in most sports where a team is selected, the coaches decides. oftentimes it's even less transparent than this
corey was in it last year so no pity there. i feel a little sorry for eberle but then again, bring the very best players, you will need it
corey was in it last year so no pity there. i feel a little sorry for eberle but then again, bring the very best players, you will need it
Do we know ea other? I ran it twice there. Played there Many times.
Shane, yeah home court was a BIG Concern for John Lewis.
He did not like giving that ''home court'' advantage to a young player two yrs in a row. Some traveled from Puerto Rico to play.
We just couldn't find the right room at the time, so we went there the next year. John was Big on ''fair play'' Steve DuCoff probably came into play at the time, Ex. Director of the BCA.
Shane definitely had an advantage on those tables/conditions. He gambled there allot.
You'd probably recognize me. I used to go up and sweat the Wichita and Olathe stuff. You remember playing Fat Randy on the big-table at Shooters? I think FR won and you made a comment along the lines "he just had a flashback". Late 80's early 90's sometime. I used to go to original Billard Palace when both Cliff then Jim-n-John owned it.
Congrats to Bergman but that a horseshit way of letting Eberle and Deuel find out. Why make them go through all those travels and to find out at the end of the day that because Bergman outplaced them in the International 9 Ball event, it made the previous commitments moot?
I'm sure neither is going to say anything. Eberle is a class act, don't know much about CD's attitude, but I'm sure neither are going to try to go through all the hoops next year.
I'm sure neither is going to say anything. Eberle is a class act, don't know much about CD's attitude, but I'm sure neither are going to try to go through all the hoops next year.
Johan gets a lot of credit from me for having the balls to make the right decision for the team. There is no question that Justin is playing better than any other U.S. player right now so how can you overlook that, especially if your goal is to have the winning team.
In other professional sports players get traded, cut and sent down all the time. That is the nature of the game. Why shouldn't a pro billiards coach be able to do what's best for his team? Good for Johan and Jeremy too. They made a tough call, but the right one imo.
In other professional sports players get traded, cut and sent down all the time. That is the nature of the game. Why shouldn't a pro billiards coach be able to do what's best for his team? Good for Johan and Jeremy too. They made a tough call, but the right one imo.
I don't know about previous years, but this year he was trying out but was cut.
http://www.matchroompool.com/news/eberle-team-usa-contention-partypoker-mosconi-cup/
I havent been able to see where corey and max placed in the open. Perhaps the coach felt they should have done better because of the bootcamp and extra tournaments they have been expected to play to be mosconi ready. He would have had plans for his picks to be peaking around mosconi time and justin fit that expectation better than others. The selection process is still a work in progress.
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I agree it’s not a great experience for CD and ME. They can definitely enhance the process to avoid these situations. But they should never feel handcuffed to the process at the detriment of the end result.
I’m betting in the future they continue the process but start putting less emphasis on just what happens on the tryouts and considering more about the known pedigree of the player. That doesn’t mean they should go off pedigree alone. The boot camps are valuable for grooming talent and ensuring we are putting skill forward and not just a name. In this context, JB should have been with them in Russia in the first place.
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