Iron Willie/Draw Shots

Island Drive

Island Drive

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Have they tested all the different chalks out there, side by side for spin performance?

My question is this. Which brand of Chalk will draw the cue ball the MOST, with the same arm swing speed?

Example; 7 mph draw stroke with obj ball 24'' away straight in. Cue ball comes back 24''.

Test all chalks Spin/Grip Performance. Some Have more/less than others!

I'm sure someone has done this test, I just didn't know where to look.
 
Island Drive said:
Have they tested all the different chalks out there, side by side for spin performance?

My question is this. Which brand of Chalk will draw the cue ball the MOST, with the same arm swing speed?

Example; 7 mph draw stroke with obj ball 24'' away straight in. Cue ball comes back 24''.

Test all chalks Spin/Grip Performance. Some Have more/less than others!

I'm sure someone has done this test, I just didn't know where to look.
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I'm no IW but i have tried about seven brands of chalk. ZERO performance difference that i can tell. Don't sweat this. My picks: Russian Magic Chalk or Blue Diamond. To me both are like a higher grade Master that's less dusty.
 
Island Drive said:
Have they tested all the different chalks out there, side by side for spin performance?

My question is this. Which brand of Chalk will draw the cue ball the MOST, with the same arm swing speed?

Example; 7 mph draw stroke with obj ball 24'' away straight in. Cue ball comes back 24''.

Test all chalks Spin/Grip Performance. Some Have more/less than others!

I'm sure someone has done this test, I just didn't know where to look.
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Bill, if there were any measurable difference to how well you could draw the ball with a particular chalk (ie one chalk is superior), dont you think everyone would already know about this, and be using it?

All real players already know, to get maximum draw, you need a magic cue. And if you cant find a keen-o flipper to sell you one, you at least need to have your cue blessed by Himalayan monks at 11:33pm, on the winter solstice of a year that ends in 8, while in Tijuana. :duck:
 
Island Drive said:
Have they tested all the different chalks out there, side by side for spin performance?
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The only way it could possibly matter is if one chalk lets the tip slip a little on the CB and the other doesn't. I doubt that happens, or you'd feel the slipping - for instance, I can feel partial miscues (tip slipping a little) when I hit a hair too far from center ball.

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Patrick Johnson said:
The only way it could possibly matter is if one chalk lets the tip slip a little on the CB and the other doesn't. I doubt that happens, or you'd feel the slipping - for instance, I can feel partial miscues (tip slipping a little) when I hit a hair too far from center ball.
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There are brands of chalk that just don't work very well. You can't hit very far from center because of early miscues.

I don't think any of the major brands has this problem, but it suggests that there could be minor differences in how far from center you can hit with different brands. I think that you would need to measure down to a fraction of a millimeter if you were doing the test and that suggests doing it with a robot for repeatability.
 
Bob Jewett said:
There are brands of chalk that just don't work very well. You can't hit very far from center because of early miscues.

I don't think any of the major brands has this problem, but it suggests that there could be minor differences in how far from center you can hit with different brands. I think that you would need to measure down to a fraction of a millimeter if you were doing the test and that suggests doing it with a robot for repeatability.
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Along with that, the elasticity of the tip and thickness of the applied chalk, possibly even the shape of the tip? (caveat, I'm no professor Mr. Jewett)
 
djg576 said:
Along with that, the elasticity of the tip and thickness of the applied chalk, possibly even the shape of the tip? (caveat, I'm no professor Mr. Jewett)
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Well, yes, there are many things that need to be controlled and/or measured.
 
garczar said:
National Tournament is pretty bad. Dry as hell. Hated it.
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Strangely, I found that National Tournament worked better in Georgia in 95% humidity. It's been a decade or three since I used it, though.

I was referring to the BrandI'veNeverSeenBefore chalk you get in some bars and what you might get at Sportsmart in the "Complete Billiards Kit" package.

I once had a student who had a table covered in red cloth (49ers fan) and red chalk to go with it. When we got to the "spin the ball" lesson, I kept miscueing for what I thought was a reasonable amount of spin. We both had the problem. We both independently found some new red chalk. None of it worked well. Next lesson it was green cloth, blue chalk, free breathing restored. I don't know if he got a Niners cover for the table to hide the cloth during Seahawks or Packers games.

Maybe the red chalk was just all old or something, but I don't think I've seen problems with old chalk as such.
 
djg576 said:
Along with that, the elasticity of the tip and thickness of the applied chalk, possibly even the shape of the tip? (caveat, I'm no professor Mr. Jewett)
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This ALSO is the other side of the coin. There's NO WAY the same tip, with an Iron Willie Swing hit, would react the EXACT....same way with different abrasions of chalks. The more gripping chalks would Have to perform better, b ut with a soft or hard tip???, If it performs as good or better at slow speeds you'll know quickly....awareness.... makes your pocketing avg's go UP.
 
Around here (central Indiana) Pioneer used to be that brand of chalk that the sporting goods stores would sell along with their other generic billiard equipment like the slip on and screw in tips. It is as horrible as you can imagine. I remember having a hard time even getting it to go on the tip in the first place.
 
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