Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit

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Danny Harriman said:
Also it is very odd that the "claim" was made public close to a year ago and maybe 50 or 60 people have seen the footage.
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This statement alone should be more than enough to prove that the whole intention of this thread is a huge pile of bs.

Back in the old days, not even 1/10th of 50 or 60 people have witnessed quite a few records - many times.

If you don't believe Schmidt, confront him yourself and pay to watch the video. Your constant insults, 4 letter words and hard to read gang-slang type English don't make YOUR attacks more credible.
 
Only 50 to 60 have seen it..that is odd. How many saw the Mosconi run?

Sent from the future.
 
wrong again

Meucciplayer said:
This statement alone should be more than enough to prove that the whole intention of this thread is a huge pile of bs.

Back in the old days, not even 1/10th of 50 or 60 people have witnessed quite a few records - many times.

If you don't believe Schmidt, confront him yourself and pay to watch the video. Your constant insults, 4 letter words and hard to read gang-slang type English don't make YOUR attacks more credible.
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Yer wrong again meucci wanna b, back in Mosconi's era they did not have technology that allowed many people to see the footage - as they do today. So if u want to compare apples to oranges - yer not doing a very good job. So using that marked card won't work. Some of the purist have already requested to pay as much as $100.00 to see un edited footege, they turned him down - imagine that. Sorry, if yer looking for an argument - just cause the general public (myself included) would like to see un edited proof -you'll have to do better than that. Do u really think they will be able to say Mosconi's record has been bested - without providing un edited proof? Go back to Mars or where ever else yer gang is located. Oh and by the way - I am not attacking anyone here - I just want to see proof of such a grandiose claim - and I do not think I am alone. If u are the type of person who accepts everythin u hear - then u need help.
 
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Black-Balled said:
So predictable.

There is indication that 626 happened. It just doesn't meet your standard.

The bca is as close to an official organization as pool has and it has a long history of devotion to the game. Its current operational focus has little-to-zero to do with those facts.
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Bottomline is it's your right to put your faith in whatever organization you choose to but by the same token it is the right of others to not be so gullible.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Bottomline is it's your right to put your faith in whatever organization you choose to but by the same token it is the right of others to not be so gullible.

Lou Figueroa
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Nice try with the gullible jab, butyour history with the subject is far more likely to suffer a bias, than I am to display allegiance to the bca.

There are many indicators the alleged 626 occurred, and the indicators it hasn't are largely the utterances of a likely crazy person and his unidentified and unwavering poo-fly.

I agree there is not 100% proof of the alleged 626, yet.

I just don't understand how, given many indicators it has and few that it hasnt, how one can lean toward 'hasn't'.
 
Danny Harriman said:
Yer wrong again meucci wanna b, back in Mosconi's era they did not have technology that allowed many people to see the footage - as they do today. So if u want to compare apples to oranges - yer not doing a very good job. So using that marked card won't work. Some of the purist have already requested to pay as much as $100.00 to see un edited footege, they turned him down - imagine that. Sorry, if yer looking for an argument - just cause the general public (myself included) would like to see un edited proof -you'll have to do better than that. Do u really think they will be able to say Mosconi's record has been bested - without providing un edited proof? Go back to Mars or where ever else yer gang is located. Oh and by the way - I am not attacking anyone here - I just want to see proof of such a grandiose claim - and I do not think I am alone. If u are the type of person who accepts everythin u hear - then u need help.
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Dude, I stopped myself on posting in one of your threads about Schmidt run cause I don't like troubles, but I must say, even though I agree with you most of the time and I think it is ridiculous what John Schmidt is doing, especially with his private house seating setup for viewing of that 600 run, which I personally think is absolutely non-sense and is run by people who can't even think about the longevity of the game.

I mean, come on, seriously? you make a cinema in a house to see 14.1 high run? thats ridiculous !!! who made this decision, LOL.

Although Danny, sometimes the way you write here in the forums is a little offensive, chill a little and bring the argument with no name-calling or whatever, just pure logic and man I agree with you, come on now, you can do it.
 
bca is the attacker here

It is an attack however (from bca) on our official sports history accomplishments to only release the footage to a private viewing audience (semi public) that has to sign some weird waiver - in a dark interrogation room/ theater - and then have the audacity to 'claim' it's a new official record - it ain't. Only the semi public are allowed to view - Oh but he said he wanted the world to see it - there is yer pile govt run of b.s. Not on my watch - not with the game I love. The real story here is probly that the hall of fame timeline was closing in ( he was unable to accomplish the run in live time or during the live stream) and then came the 'mystery tape'. Bad for the game, bad for our sport, and bad for bca business.

Charlie was able to get away with calling his Straight Pool event the World 14.1 - although there were some Champs at the event - it was not a World Championship 14.1 event. I am not sure if he, john, and powers at bca will be able to pull off this stunt - without providing proper proof or evidence to support this pitiful business plan gone wrong. So before anyone says it is a true legitimate 'record' - i would add the bca holds very little merit with me in terms of proper adjudication and they may not want to enumerate their juvenile poultry - till the proper process of incubation has finally occurred. Comprende?
 
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The weirdest thing among many weird things in these bizarre screeds has to be the constant linking of important, powerful institutions like the U.S. government and the New York Times with the unimportant, unpowerful BCA and John Schmidt.

As if anyone outside of this forum cares about John Schmidt or 626.
 
skip100 said:
The weirdest thing among many weird things in these bizarre screeds has to be the constant linking of important, powerful institutions like the U.S. government and the New York Times with the unimportant, unpowerful BCA and John Schmidt.

As if anyone outside of this forum cares about John Schmidt or 626.
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There's that...
 
Danny Harriman said:
Yer wrong again meucci wanna b, back in Mosconi's era they did not have technology that allowed many people to see the footage - as they do today. So if u want to compare apples to oranges - yer not doing a very good job. So using that marked card won't work. Some of the purist have already requested to pay as much as $100.00 to see un edited footege, they turned him down - imagine that. Sorry, if yer looking for an argument - just cause the general public (myself included) would like to see un edited proof -you'll have to do better than that. Do u really think they will be able to say Mosconi's record has been bested - without providing un edited proof? Go back to Mars or where ever else yer gang is located. Oh and by the way - I am not attacking anyone here - I just want to see proof of such a grandiose claim - and I do not think I am alone. If u are the type of person who accepts everythin u hear - then u need help.
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I was with ya until you claimed to have $100.

Sent from the future.
 
Black-Balled said:
Nice try with the gullible jab, butyour history with the subject is far more likely to suffer a bias, than I am to display allegiance to the bca.

There are many indicators the alleged 626 occurred, and the indicators it hasn't are largely the utterances of a likely crazy person and his unidentified and unwavering poo-fly.

I agree there is not 100% proof of the alleged 626, yet.

I just don't understand how, given many indicators it has and few that it hasnt, how one can lean toward 'hasn't'.
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Because it's an extraordinary claim I lean towards wanting to see the proof.

Lou Figueroa
 
The value (in terms of attention and therefore money) of recording the run and letting it out there immediately and gaining attention far and wide far outweighs the value of recording it privately and selling it off to some pool fans who either believed or not or didn’t care that it happened.

I believe he ran it. I also believe he is trying to make money out of it. He would have made far, far more money out of it if he had just stuck it on YouTube. The run appears to need to be backed up by childish excitement, arrogant “I am the best”-ness or something else along those lines.
 
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Danny Harriman said:
If you are not apart of their 'semi public' thats is OK, also if you have a table and practice 14.1 on a regular basis - your opinion is valuable to me. Please note that I do like Westerns - just not the one schmidt and charlie are TRYING to produce. If yer a member of john's facebook crowd - yer opinion has less value. Only honest answers are appreciated - I am passionate about the game and keeping it legit so I again I'm only interested in reading genuine responses. Thanks for your participation in what is very possibly another media experiment on the 'general public'. So is it legit? Or do you think (like me) it had a great deal to do with his recent new cue sponsor and hall of fame induction? Also do ya'll think they ( crooked powrs that b) have a legal right to make such a grandiose claim and not offer the video to general population'.
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Danny,

I know you and John have a history, but putting that aside for now. It is interesting to me that he attempted to break the record at BullShooters in the Phoenix area and all attempts were on a live feed. I'm not sure why the attempts in Monterey Ca. we not live as well. This would have done away with any of the naysayers.
I arrived in Monterey, pre planned vacation, 2 days after the record was broken. I took some photos of the table and even got to talk with John and his wife for a little while. My wife asked if I got any pictures with John? I did not, felt like it would have been imposing too much.
Anyhoo, the table's pockets were very generous. My picture shows two balls in the corner pocket and there is plenty of space between them. If the record was going to be broken, I'm sure this type of equipment would make it easier. Does that discount making 626 without missing? It's still a great feat no matter if the table had 7" pockets.
Why John is not sharing the video? Only he knows for sure.....the rest of us just get to speculate. I think he is a great 14.1 player but there are many others that play great also. Will another player try to break his record....eventually I suppose.
My gut tells me that he did get the 626. Can I prove it....nope.
I know there were a couple of witnesses at his record breaking feat. Were there over 20 witnesses like when Mosconi ran 526? I don't believe so. Do less witnesses make it less believable?
Ok, to sum it up, there are many questions. Maybe in time, John will post up the video or even sell copies for $9.99
Until then, let the speculation continue :)
 
Swighey said:
The value (in terms of attention and therefore money) of recording the run and letting it out there immediately and gaining attention far and wide far outweighs the value of recording it privately and selling it off to some pool fans who either believed or not or didn’t care that it happened.
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Right. I don't understand why JS handled it the way he did. But then again I realize that most pool players are utter failures in the business world.

I believe he ran it. I also believe he is trying to make money out of it.
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Same here. Even if it was not a totally "clean" run, so what.

The guy will definitely never make any serious money out of it and a miniscule part of the general population will ever know. A tiny part of pool players who don't participate in AZB etc. will realize what happened, since many don't even know what Straight Pool is. Very few who care about Straight Pool would like to see the video, including me.

It is one of the greatest jokes I ever read on AZB that a person who constantly behaves like some 15-y.o. kid with lousy manners and foul language claims to be the defender of the sanctity of Straight Pool. If you, DH, want to be an ambassador for the Straight Pool community, you are doing the lousiest of jobs. So who are you to attack JS?
 
tucson9ball said:
Danny,



I know you and John have a history, but putting that aside for now. It is interesting to me that he attempted to break the record at BullShooters in the Phoenix area and all attempts were on a live feed. I'm not sure why the attempts in Monterey Ca. we not live as well. This would have done away with any of the naysayers.

I arrived in Monterey, pre planned vacation, 2 days after the record was broken. I took some photos of the table and even got to talk with John and his wife for a little while. My wife asked if I got any pictures with John? I did not, felt like it would have been imposing too much.

Anyhoo, the table's pockets were very generous. My picture shows two balls in the corner pocket and there is plenty of space between them. If the record was going to be broken, I'm sure this type of equipment would make it easier. Does that discount making 626 without missing? It's still a great feat no matter if the table had 7" pockets.

Why John is not sharing the video? Only he knows for sure.....the rest of us just get to speculate. I think he is a great 14.1 player but there are many others that play great also. Will another player try to break his record....eventually I suppose.

My gut tells me that he did get the 626. Can I prove it....nope.

I know there were a couple of witnesses at his record breaking feat. Were there over 20 witnesses like when Mosconi ran 526? I don't believe so. Do less witnesses make it less believable?

Ok, to sum it up, there are many questions. Maybe in time, John will post up the video or even sell copies for $9.99

Until then, let the speculation continue :)
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Are you going to sell the pictures?

If it was live streamed free he'd maybe have fewer doubters but the money opportunity would be gone.


Sent from the future.
 
logical said:
Are you going to sell the pictures?

If it was live streamed free he'd maybe have fewer doubters but the money opportunity would be gone.


Sent from the future.
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And the detractors would find reason s to discount the claim...

Who watched it all the way through with no breaks, who knows what really happened when the vid froze...or had to be rebooted?
 
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