Pool in the Time of Coronavirus

Not a bad idea.

Lou Figueroa
matzah ball soup
for everyone!

Mazel tov!

Damn it Eric.

We are living in the era of 'headlines only knowledge'.

Research and self edumacation are no longer on the expectation list, they have been moved to the wish list.

Did you not get the memo?

:thumbup:

Memo? Lemme check Facebook. I'll be right back.


Eric >Fakebook news
 
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Not pool but they just cancelled at the last minute a science conference here in Denver.
10000 were to attend.
a big hit for the city.
 
here is some commentary on travel insurance... I didn't read it, but the articles from these peepose are usually pretty informative.

Re:Will travel insurance cover coronavirus?

https://www.propertycasualty360.com...tsinsight&utm_content=20200302&utm_term=pc360


Although standard policies don’t cover all cancellations, some travel policies offer “cancel any reason” provisions or flight delay benefits that will provide reimbursement. Again, here’s where reading the fine print comes in.
 
here is some commentary on travel insurance... I didn't read it, but the articles from these peepose are usually pretty informative.

Re:Will travel insurance cover coronavirus?

https://www.propertycasualty360.com...tsinsight&utm_content=20200302&utm_term=pc360


Although standard policies don’t cover all cancellations, some travel policies offer “cancel any reason” provisions or flight delay benefits that will provide reimbursement. Again, here’s where reading the fine print comes in.

Most insurance won't cover a scare, only actual illness of you, a family member or a traveling party. If an area comes under a "state of emergency" declaration I think a customer would have a case for cancellation on some types of insurance.

The only "insurance" valuable in this case would be the type that allows cancellations for any reason. Some types of insurance do this. Usually it's not insurance at all but some sort of waiver provided by a cruise line or hotel.

For those of us who enter hotel contracts, this is pretty much unchartered territory from what I can see. The typical impossibility clauses don't cover cancellations because someone is fearful of catching a disease. Acts of god are usually listed and limited in scope, usually natural disasters. Then you have civil disorder, strikes, curtailment of transportation etc etc. Again, if a state of emergency is declared (like in San Francisco) , then that lends credibility to a cancellation of a meeting or convention or possibly an individual reservation but there may be a battle.
 
Not pool but they just cancelled at the last minute a science conference here in Denver.
10000 were to attend.
a big hit for the city.

This sort of thing is terrible but it doesn't surprise me. San Francisco had some major last minute cancellations. People are afraid to travel right now.

But where does this tidal wave of fear stop? What about concerts, plays, sporting events, parties, airports, theaters, Walmart, Costco, 7-11, everywhere people are sneezing and touching things.

Now that there is one case in Manhattan, what will happen there?
 
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Not pool but they just cancelled at the last minute a science conference here in Denver.
10000 were to attend.
a big hit for the city.


I think I read that they just canceled a game developers conference in SF.

Lou Figueroa
 
Great, I’ve been waiting 50 years for the great comeback of pro pool. It seemed like this was going to be the year with lots big tournaments and a large international field. I hope this pandemic doesn’t slow things down.
 
Great, I’ve been waiting 50 years for the great comeback of pro pool. It seemed like this was going to be the year with lots big tournaments and a large international field. I hope this pandemic doesn’t slow things down.


As this whole thing unreels it’ll be interesting to see how promoters of major pool events react and how many will choose a more prudent course and how many will choose: damn the torpedoes — full speed ahead.

Lou Figueroa
 
risk/benefit

Like always in life I'll weigh the risk/benefit ratio. Not going to stop going to my local pool hall unless the disease shows up nearby. I keep planning to make some fairly big pool events. That is on hold. The crowds from all over the world are one issue, the biggest concern is that airplanes always strike me as one big incubator.

I am in probably a half-dozen or more high risk groups for infection and pulmonary infection in particular. If business takes me to a high risk environment like the hospital I have to go to, or going see my pulmonary specialist, got to take the risk. Going to the big city, particularly by air, I don't need the risk.That recirculating air in an airplane throws the six foot rule out, the same air is getting delivered to everyone sick and well.

Those cavalier about their own risks are bringing the risks to everyone around them, everyone on a plane with them, everyone those people meet for weeks afterwards. Those that are willing to take the risks for themselves generally have a far different attitude when they are the likely vector that has the old people and/or babies in their families struggling to live.

Last office I worked in before retirement, they built us a fine new building with the six feet high cubicles. A hundred and fifty people on each floor. One knothead come to work sick and then the infection circulated around that building for sometimes several months. They weren't infectious that long, it was the chain effect.

The truth is that not that much is known about the coronavirus. Two week quarantine seemed fine, until someone infected another person after thirty days. Viruses do mutate, sometimes slowly, sometimes very rapidly. We don't know what we are dealing with here. Historically, excess population of any species is reduced by starvation, predators, or disease. Most humans manage to eat enough to get by, we are our own predators in war, and we have seen disease sweep the civilized world. We don't know what it did in other areas. Up to sixty percent of europe has been wiped out by disease.

What I linked to is interesting reading. One reason is that it includes how the disease spread when it is known. Sometimes the vectors were young healthy people. Other than a minor case of plague that is!

Hu


https://www.businessinsider.com/epi...-kong-flu-killed-1-million-people-late-1968-5
 
While you're avoiding Covid-19 , I would also suggest avoiding the 141 counties that have the mosquito responsible for Dengue Fever. More than 40 per cent of the world’s population is at risk of dengue infection. Each year, an estimated 390 million dengue infections occur around the world. Of these, around 500,000 cases develop into severe dengue, or dengue haemorrhagic fever, a more severe form of the disease, which results in up to 25,000 deaths annually worldwide. That's each year. Every year.

I truly believe we should do what we can to stay healthy, don't take unnecessary risks but understand what those risks entail and put them in perspective. If somebody drinks too much, has high blood pressure, high cholesterol, doesn't exercise, smokes, drives too fast and is 50 pounds overweight - I would deal with those issues first before worrying too much about Covid-19.
 
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Newsflash - United just announced they will waive change fees for tickets newly purchased in March, all UA destinations.

Expect other majors to match. This does not mean you can get a refund for cancelled trips but it does mean you can exchange the ticket for another place, time, etc. on UA.
 
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