2 sides to every story....

[ShootingHank]

John Doe commissioned some cues and was told it was made by John Smith. Therefore Doe represents what was told by Smith and/or associates. Goes get a batch commissioned and other guy gets it outsourced. I cannot confirm nor deny this.

We've seen cue builders screw customers and perhaps this is what happened to the reseller.

Always 2 sides.

Stay safe people. Now is a time for unity.

 

[trinacria]

this makes me wanna :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[animatedvmaker]

John Doe commissioned some cues and was told it was made by John Smith. Therefore Doe represents what was told by Smith and/or associates. Goes get a batch commissioned and other guy gets it outsourced. I cannot confirm nor deny this.

We've seen cue builders screw customers and perhaps this is what happened to the reseller.

Always 2 sides.

Stay safe people. Now is a time for unity.

The reseller was the same person who commissioned the cues to be made.

 

[jimmyco]

More than 1000 posts on this and this is your takeaway?

 

[RiverCity]

More than 1000 posts on this and this is your takeaway?

When nuthuggers are swinging from someones nutsack, it is recommended that they hold on tight and dont let go. :thumbup:

 

[FairladyZ]

Gosh, for a moment I thought this would be RKC's version of the "rail drama" from the other thread....

 

[Sunchaser]

3 sides to every story. Its usually the 3rd side unless we no longer care about the truth. That darn bus is gonna run over someone every time...

 

[ideologist]

John Doe commissioned some cues and was told it was made by John Smith. Therefore Doe represents what was told by Smith and/or associates. Goes get a batch commissioned and other guy gets it outsourced. I cannot confirm nor deny this.

We've seen cue builders screw customers and perhaps this is what happened to the reseller.

Always 2 sides.

Stay safe people. Now is a time for unity.

We are pretty unified in detesting Dean's behavior. Hawaiian guy there is a close second. Dean's loyal lapdogs should keep their noses tucked in his lap and stop posting along with Dean, all of this would disappear.

 

[HawaiianEye]

We are pretty unified in detesting Dean's behavior. Hawaiian guy there is a close second. Dean's loyal lapdogs should keep their noses tucked in his lap and stop posting along with Dean, all of this would disappear.

Do you own this site now?

Your nose is in the thread and trying to tell other members what to do.

 

[logical]

John Doe commissioned some cues and was told it was made by John Smith. Therefore Doe represents what was told by Smith and/or associates. Goes get a batch commissioned and other guy gets it outsourced. I cannot confirm nor deny this.



We've seen cue builders screw customers and perhaps this is what happened to the reseller.



Always 2 sides.



Stay safe people. Now is a time for unity.

That makes zero sense and we didn't need another thread to explorer it. Our forum member, as pointed out, is both Doe and Smith...and maybe a few more.

He's also not the oniy one editing posts once caught in his own web.
Sent from the future.

 

[ideologist]

Do you own this site now?

Your nose is in the thread and trying to tell other members what to do.

Just offering a recommendation. Every time you pull your face out of his lap, the threads continue. Just go play with your cue and leave it alone. Dean is a fraud and you are continuing to defend it. By not posting, you are at least letting the issue fizzle out.

 

[megatron69]

John Doe commissioned some cues and was told it was made by John Smith. Therefore Doe represents what was told by Smith and/or associates. Goes get a batch commissioned and other guy gets it outsourced.

Don't know exactly what you guys are talking about, and don't want to know really. But this post reminded of something that happened to me just a few years ago.

About 4-5 years ago a friend asked me if I could check out this .22 rifle she'd been left by her recently deceased grandfather. She wanted to know if it was functional and could safely be fired, since she was taught how to shoot on that gun and wanted to teach her son and daughter to shoot with it.

Anyway, I took it apart as much as I could and cleaned what I could clean. But certain units mystified me, so I went on YouTube and tried to look the thing up. Surprisingly, I found not one reference to this particular gun anywhere on YT. The gun was a Higgins or a Wiggins, btw. Sold by Sears about 80 years ago.

I tried looking it up on Google and the rest and nada. How insane is that? The freaking interwebs didn't have a single answer to my question? I felt like I broke the internet or my computer or something.

Finally I asked if anyone on the various gun forums I visit had any idea where to find some info on this gun. Finally one of the wise old elves on one of the forums told me the gun was actually built by Savage Arms on a limited run contract for Sears in honor of one of their former employees, Higgins or whatever.

Well, at that time Savage was busy building a lot of other guns for some other contract, and so Savage decided to sub-contract out the Sears gun contract to yet another company that I can't remember the name of now. In that process some modifications were made to the final gun, but fortunately it was still close enough that I could still use the specs and disassembly/assembly instructions for the Savage Arms rifle that was supposed to be the Sears gun.

So technically the rifle was really manufactured by this third company. But since the design and specs were originally from Savage, the gun is considered a Savage. The WOE graciously sent me a copy of his owner's manual of the gun. Guy actually collected owner's manuals for old guns.

So there are two morals to this story: One, you never really know who's building your stuff. And two, always pay your respects to the wise old elves. They will save your ass more often than not.

Oh, and in case any of you were wondering, I got the gun disassembled and inspected, cleaned, lubed and reassembled finally. The gun checked out and I fired 10 rounds through it and gave it back to my friend. She taught her daughter to shoot her first rounds with it last year when she turned ten. I was there. Good memory.

P.S. just came to me. The other manufacturer was Stevens Arms Co.

 

[poolhustler]

Stay safe people. Now is a time for unity.

………..and you continue posting this crap?

Well done Sir!! Well Done!!!

 

[TATE]

Well the Manson followers blamed poor innocent Charlie too - it happens :bash::bash:

 

[JC]

This is why you don't delete threads.

The hyenas will always find another carcass to pick the bones clean.

 

[jimmyco]

Don't know exactly what you guys are talking about, and don't want to know really. But this post reminded of something that happened to me just a few years ago.

About 4-5 years ago a friend asked me if I could check out this .22 rifle she'd been left by her recently deceased grandfather. She wanted to know if it was functional and could safely be fired, since she was taught how to shoot on that gun and wanted to teach her son and daughter to shoot with it.

Anyway, I took it apart as much as I could and cleaned what I could clean. But certain units mystified me, so I went on YouTube and tried to look the thing up. Surprisingly, I found not one reference to this particular gun anywhere on YT. The gun was a Higgins or a Wiggins, btw. Sold by Sears about 80 years ago.

I tried looking it up on Google and the rest and nada. How insane is that? The freaking interwebs didn't have a single answer to my question? I felt like I broke the internet or my computer or something.

Finally I asked if anyone on the various gun forums I visit had any idea where to find some info on this gun. Finally one of the wise old elves on one of the forums told me the gun was actually built by Savage Arms on a limited run contract for Sears in honor of one of their former employees, Higgins or whatever.

Well, at that time Savage was busy building a lot of other guns for some other contract, and so Savage decided to sub-contract out the Sears gun contract to yet another company that I can't remember the name of now. In that process some modifications were made to the final gun, but fortunately it was still close enough that I could still use the specs and disassembly/assembly instructions for the Savage Arms rifle that was supposed to be the Sears gun.

So technically the rifle was really manufactured by this third company. But since the design and specs were originally from Savage, the gun is considered a Savage. The WOE graciously sent me a copy of his owner's manual of the gun. Guy actually collected owner's manuals for old guns.

So there are two morals to this story: One, you never really know who's building your stuff. And two, always pay your respects to the wise old elves. They will save your ass more often than not.

Oh, and in case any of you were wondering, I got the gun disassembled and inspected, cleaned, lubed and reassembled finally. The gun checked out and I fired 10 rounds through it and gave it back to my friend. She taught her daughter to shoot her first rounds with it last year when she turned ten. I was there. Good memory.

P.S. just came to me. The other manufacturer was Stevens Arms Co.

So glad to have opened this thread. Of all the garbage that has been posted about this debacle, your post, however out of place it may seem, warmed my heart.

I too was a young boy when my father taught me safe gun handling and marksmanship on a J.C. Higgins rifle he purchased at Sears. They were well made guns and he still had the one he taught my older siblings and myself when he passed a few years back at 93.

Thanks for the story.

 

[muskyed]

When postings get to the level that Ideologist has taken it to, that not only is wrong, but should be unacceptable for any forum moderator to let stand. While members should be allowed to voice their opinions respectably, you cannot allow a member to bully and intimidate other members, just because they don't agree with them or their friends. That's just what life is, not everyone will always agree with you. Doesn't mean that you are right, or that they are right, it's most always just your opinion, you may be right, then again you may not be. To tell a member to keep your nose in your lap and stop posting, just because their opinion doesn't agree with yours, is inexcusable, and should not be tolerated on this forum. Hopefully the moderators of this forum look at this, and feel the need to take corrective action.

 

[megatron69]

So glad to have opened this thread. Of all the garbage that has been posted about this debacle, your post, however out of place it may seem, warmed my heart.

I too was a young boy when my father taught me safe gun handling and marksmanship on a J.C. Higgins rifle he purchased at Sears. They were well made guns and he still had the one he taught my older siblings and myself when he passed a few years back at 93.

Thanks for the story.

Well thanks. And you're welcome.

Those Higgins rifles are funny little guns aren't they? I swear some of the parts I found in there were hand hammer forged. I felt like I was peering into 1943 or something.