Bookies as sponsors

Bob Jewett

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One story around the IPT (~2005) was that the plan was to develop online betting on the matches and sell the whole system to a Chinese billionaire. This would have made individual bettors the real sponsors of the events. It would have created a dedicated fan base that would have grown as friends and family would have been drawn into the high-end production.

Snooker is in effect sponsored by such bettors. The current event, which you can see on https://matchroom.live/home , is sponsored by Betfred, a UK bookie. Other bookies are offering odds on the event, but Betfred is on the banners around the pit and is mentioned frequently. The players are all wearing large BETFRED patches over their hearts. (Presumably the event, The Betfred Masters, also gets revenue from broadcast rights.) The 16-player event pays a total of just under $1,000,000.

Betfred was also the sponsor of the 2020 World Championship last August. Fred himself participated in the draw. The winner (O'Sullivan) got about $675,000.

Snooker provides an interesting, viewable product. The possibility of wagering both increases interest for some people and results in rather large sponsorships. The influx of money motivates the players to improve and brings new players to get into the game. A word about viewability... for one final, half of England was up at midnight still watching a game where the players might not pot a ball for 20 minutes during a spell of safeties.

The previous large sponsor of Snooker was tobacco. There was less direct connection there, but tobacco had lots of money for advertising. That ended when tobacco was banned from television, and snooker went into hard times for a while.

An amazing array of bets are offered on matches, such as what color will be potted first and how many centuries will occur. Here are the basic odds for the winner of the event.

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Gambling sponsors would be a way to go. The majority of pool fans are not in the United States anymore though, a world wide wagering system would no doubt have to include China and India, and I do not know how legal that would be. With that said, it would be a momentous undertaking.
 
..sooo, is it a good thing, to at least recognize that we're late to the party?
 
Gambling sponsors would be a way to go. The majority of pool fans are not in the United States anymore though, a world wide wagering system would no doubt have to include China and India, and I do not know how legal that would be. With that said, it would be a momentous undertaking.
I'm pretty sure that some of the sponsors for snooker are bookies in China (or maybe it's Macau).

Here is an interesting article about the transition in snooker from tobacco money to betting money and some other sponsorship issues:

 
Perhaps the recent legalization of online sports betting in certain states (New Jersey?) will create opportunities. I would assume the sports books would want as much content to bet on as possible, assuming they can set an even line without players dumping games.
 
...dumping, fixing cheating is the only issue where the fear of God will reign on the pitifuls' soul.

whom ever it is running the show...? has a God.
 
Gambling sponsors would be a way to go. The majority of pool fans are not in the United States anymore though, a world wide wagering system would no doubt have to include China and India, and I do not know how legal that would be. With that said, it would be a momentous undertaking.
It’s not a matter of including China, China’s gambling culture already dwarfs anything in the world. There is nothing stopping it now. Macau’s annual sports betting intake alone is larger than the total intake of all gambling revenue in Las Vegas. The biggest intake is, of course, gambling on English Premier League Football but American NBA basketball is very popular and likely second or third.

If Chinese player makes it big in a sport then the government promotes the sport and they become a national hero. Thus in part why Snooker and Chinese 8 ball have grown. Suddenly they have an audience approaching 100 million viewers. A Chinese star in the NBA and viewership For a game is larger than in the USA. Important: this is Mainland nationals and not those from Taipei like the Ko brothers.
 
I'm not inclined to bet on other people and I'm not endorsing Trudeau but I think the structure of what he intended had a chance to work if properly managed. My understanding is congress passed a law shutting it down likely due to lobbying from other entities which stood to lose money if people could place bets online. In fact I think that business model was pool's best chance to get an influx of cash.

Trudeau had a history of scams but this had a chance to be a work.
 
It’s not a matter of including China, China’s gambling culture already dwarfs anything in the world. There is nothing stopping it now. Macau’s annual sports betting intake alone is larger than the total intake of all gambling revenue in Las Vegas. The biggest intake is, of course, gambling on English Premier League Football but American NBA basketball is very popular and likely second or third.

If Chinese player makes it big in a sport then the government promotes the sport and they become a national hero. Thus in part why Snooker and Chinese 8 ball have grown. Suddenly they have an audience approaching 100 million viewers. A Chinese star in the NBA and viewership For a game is larger than in the USA. Important: this is Mainland nationals and not those from Taipei like the Ko brothers.
I was vaguely aware of how much gamble the chinese have, the question is, would they be able to support an American Bookie/ and vice versa? But if it was just China betting away, that is really all we need for the influx of cash for the top tier of our sport. Money brings talent. Look how poker blew up, a chance to win is all people want, and how many people think they have what it takes to become a professional? Every single one of us has had an inclining of an idea of playing the best in the world...
 
You can bet on so much more than just winners. Bet on who shoots a combo first, who plays safe first, who gives up ball in hand first....How many steps are they going to take during the match...That would be fun.
 
You can bet on so much more than just winners. Bet on who shoots a combo first, who plays safe first, who gives up ball in hand first....How many steps are they going to take during the match...That would be fun.

Another aspect is ‘American’ pool doesn’t need to be the USA. The 4 biggest Spectator sports in the world are football, cricket field hockey table tennis. All from the UK although the Brits don’t dominate any of them. There’s no need for betting on American pool to be based in the US....the gamblers being US based or the players being American.
 
no mention on the "why" for a ban on gambling advertising,
maybe boris wants, needs a bigger cut?

Like the financial markets here, resembling, acting, legally preforming like a casino, maybe, should be taxed on the bets placed with their broker.

Almost sprung for the telegraph subscription to see what's what on the why to change the rules.
Need to know though, the why, what's the problem? Is it people betting the farm, not able to pay their income, vat... and so, on the other taxes?

It's not a new revelation that pool, billiards requires a profitable feeder stock that's not from the pockets of performers to be successful.

The ingredient's for the great billiards experience do exist here in the USA, just needs a master chef.
At the moment I'm trying to figure out how to use the mouse on this new Lenovo.
 
That's not good and yet here a tribe just opened what's billed as the biggest constructed host of a resort in the state for gaming.
 
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