Thought I’d share a pic of one of my stock Anniversary pockets now after a Jack Zimmerman rail overhaul. I’m very pleased Jack! Thanks again!
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I understand and don't blame you one bit, it appears that you are one of the lucky ones to get a commercial that lived it's life in a residential setting. I love the old Monarchs! My table on the other hand did commercial duty for 50 or so years in a pool room in Waxahachie Texas so I'm sure the original Monarchs were replaced years ago. The sub rails were stapled out so it was probably a very busy hall. It would be nice to know more history on these old tables.Perhaps someday for me. My monarch rubber has plenty of life left still. Jack set up my GC last year, he does great work.
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I had rubber redone on a previous table and about shit my pants when I saw the guy cutting along a marker drawn line with a razor blade.Yes and no. The subrail needs to be extended to properly recut the pockets even if the customer wants the stock 5" pockets. Those pockets were either butchered by an unqualified "mechanic" or there's something going on with the wood.
I had rubber redone on a previous table and about shit my pants when I saw the guy cutting along a marker drawn line with a razor blade.
I understand and don't blame you one bit, it appears that you are one of the lucky ones to get a commercial that lived it's life in a residential setting. I love the old Monarchs! My table on the other hand did commercial duty for 50 or so years in a pool room in Waxahachie Texas so I'm sure the original Monarchs were replaced years ago. The sub rails were stapled out so it was probably a very busy hall. It would be nice to know more history on these old tables.
I got an email from my brother. He was quoted $300 for new cushions, installed. Total with all new cloth could be $800, so he's going for it.
What is the magic angle, 141°or something like that? Then there's a vertical angle to make the facings farther apart at table level than they are at the top of the rail. There must be a name for that. I think it's to force the ball to go down into the hole when it hits the facing, rather than flying of the table.
He signed up, don't know his screen name. Until he comes on and thanks all you kind people, let me do it for him. Thank you all very much for your replies.
Not to mention a GCI uses Monarch Superspeeds which there in no longer a matching profile available.Your brother's issue will not be fixed for the $300 cushion replacement. The new cushions will be cut along the profile of the existing pocket openings. I doubt very seriously they will add wood and recut the pocket openings for the quoted price. I hate to say it, but the table will play the same after the new rubber is installed. Fixing the problem should run around $1,200 just for the cushions and rail work. Who has he hired to do the work?
Good point. I didn't even think about the subrail calibration because i was so focused on the pocket opening.Not to mention a GCI uses Monarch Superspeeds which there in no longer a matching profile available.
My GCI pockets after new Artemis cushions, sub-rail correction, and tightened pockets.
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No way he's gonna get it done RIGHT at that price.Your brother's issue will not be fixed for the $300 cushion replacement. The new cushions will be cut along the profile of the existing pocket openings. I doubt very seriously they will add wood and recut the pocket openings for the quoted price. I hate to say it, but the table will play the same after the new rubber is installed. Fixing the problem should run around $1,200 just for the cushions and rail work. Who has he hired to do the work?
Those pockets were tightened up. Probably by adding shims. Remove the extra shims and they will be back to the original 5 inch pockets. We double shimmed my Gold Crown one but it is still not as tight as that one.
Just got off the phone with my brother Joey. Whoever it is will be there by nine this morning.
Fastone: What size pockets? It looks challenging.
I own the God Crown 1 that everyone is so helpful with. I have secured a pool table guy who could do that work if it really needed it, or if I insisted. I saw the raw wood and it is in perfect shape. The end pad was hammered out of shape as well as the end of the cut on the cushion. All he really does need to do is follow the wood profile and get it back to stock spec. with thicker rail end pads, it will be slightly tighter, I am willing to settle for that. With new tournament blue Simonis cloth and all new rubber, he assures me it will play like a new table. I am thinking the pocket opening will be 4 3/4 or 4 7/8. Spec says 4 7/8 to 5 1/8. with thanks, I will post a picture after the work is done. The rubber we are replacing are indeed original
I recommend consulting with Geoff Bradshaw on this. In another thread he describes how to address the issue fo a cushion that's been cut improperly by adding some durometer 50A rubber to it and then sanding to the correct profile which matches the wood. If they are original GC I cushions they may well be good to continue to use, and all you'd need to do is some minor surgery to restore the correct angle, and then add the correct, single-thickness facing.I own the God Crown 1 that everyone is so helpful with. I have secured a pool table guy who could do that work if it really needed it, or if I insisted. I saw the raw wood and it is in perfect shape. The end pad was hammered out of shape as well as the end of the cut on the cushion. All he really does need to do is follow the wood profile and get it back to stock spec. with thicker rail end pads, it will be slightly tighter, I am willing to settle for that. With new tournament blue Simonis cloth and all new rubber, he assures me it will play like a new table. I am thinking the pocket opening will be 4 3/4 or 4 7/8. Spec says 4 7/8 to 5 1/8. with thanks, I will post a picture after the work is done. The rubber we are replacing are indeed original
The very first post shows two balls frozen together in the pocket without falling. Old Gold Crown pockets will let both balls fall into the pocket easily. So it has been shimmed or modified to tighten them up.What pic are you referring to? The pockets in the original post are 5"+.