I saw that live.
As for, "He had no reason to hit that red ball," actually he did. He is Judd Trump.
How's This for a Positional Shot?
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As for, "He had no reason to hit that red ball," actually he did. He is Judd Trump.
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I agree that the shot was not lucky. I understand on a regular billiard table a player 'doesn't wanna get too close to his work' but that ball sitting on a rail of a snooker table has very little margin of error to be made, it is deceptively tough with only about a 1/4" wide window of leeway off the rail at dead wweight as opposed to a full inch or more at almost any speed on a standard pool table pocket. He needed the cannon to make his chance of potting that red ball far greater. Imagine if they were playing on a Russian pool table where that red ball would be literally impossible to make there - the same shot would NEVER have been deemed lucky, it would've been a necessity.
Watch the shot on the red ball after this amazing positional play by Ronnie O'Sullivan on the brown ball, I have it cued up. He knows it's tough, hits it very slowly, right along the rail, and the ball bobbles twice before it barely drops in. On even the tightest shimmed billiard tables, that goes in with very little issue, maybe without even hitting the far facing at that speed. The very knowledgeable crowd there knows that a ball that is very close to or frozen on a rail more than a few inches away from the pocket is truly a remarkable shot when it is made. I play a lot of snooker and my chances of making the ball Ronnie made, even without bridging over the black ball, would be about 1 in 6. Even for Ronnie who is arguably the best player to ever play the game and has a pot success rate in the mid-90s, that shot was probably 50-50 at best.
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Watch the shot on the red ball after this amazing positional play by Ronnie O'Sullivan on the brown ball, I have it cued up. He knows it's tough, hits it very slowly, right along the rail, and the ball bobbles twice before it barely drops in. On even the tightest shimmed billiard tables, that goes in with very little issue, maybe without even hitting the far facing at that speed. The very knowledgeable crowd there knows that a ball that is very close to or frozen on a rail more than a few inches away from the pocket is truly a remarkable shot when it is made. I play a lot of snooker and my chances of making the ball Ronnie made, even without bridging over the black ball, would be about 1 in 6. Even for Ronnie who is arguably the best player to ever play the game and has a pot success rate in the mid-90s, that shot was probably 50-50 at best.
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I agree with BeiberLvr, it's just what he wanted to do.
To make the red he had to knock it off the rail. There was also a four rail route he could have attempted as well. He was trying to bump the red in hopes of getting a shot and running the colors. At worst he would have left a safety so he might as well go for it.
Controlling that amount of reverse is remarkable.
An important point about snooker: After making the black Judd was 80 points ahead with 35 remaining on the table. The only way for his opponent to win was to get Judd to foul twelve times by snookering him repeatedly. No professional player in the opponent's position would have come back to the table after a miss by Judd on the red except to get a little practice time.
Another thing to keep in mind. Once the frame is well out of reach and the tournament high break isn't on, pro snooker players go firmly into circus mode. ...and it's not to entertain themselves, it's for the spectators. I highly doubt Trump would have hit this shot anywhere near the same if the frame hadn't been over, just like you're saying.
That's not saying he didn't mean to do what he did entirely. Just that it would not have been considered an option outside the above circumstances.
i wouldn't say it's just for the spectators.. it's a way to cool down the opponent and stay hot yourself.
And to get another century, which some people pay attention to.
Based on my inability to reach one (96). I made a decision years ago to pretend it's a myth.
That was my thought as well. Those that don’t play snooker regularly cannot imagine how problematic that little rail shot can be!
its a 3cushion shot called double rail,
making the black was much harder with the angle and speed, i think
(Stephen Lee video with amazing stroke shots, including loosening a ball near a cushion....)
Sadly, he is banned from snooker until 2024 for match fixing.
Sadly, he is banned from snooker until 2024 for match fixing.
While Judd plays shape in spectacular ways regularly note that on this shot the frame was well in hand. Also note that he hit the blue on the way to the yellow from the last black, a less than perfect (much less than perfect at his level) shape shot.
Dave <-- loves the Trump 5 rail shape shot that he uses regularly
Dave <-- loves the Trump 5 rail shape shot that he uses regularly
Poor Ding , he's usually involved when somebody gets out from no where.
I have never seen topspin take at that angle, from a distance . It does look like a trick. But I don't think it was.
I don't think so either. Just different equipment plus a monster stroke. Trump is the best snooker player in the world at the moment or very close to it.
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