Not so. I have been playing this game for more than 50 years and it has never stopped evolving.
Jump sticks have changed the game
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There are hundreds if not thousands of options that can be experimented with.
As have I. And while it’s changed a bit, it remains, as it always has been, primarily an offensive gunslinger game. If anything, adding more tools to defeat weak safety attempts has added to the need to play better safeties and has improved defensive play as a result.
Give me ONE of your hundreds that is as simple as the one I gave.
If the breaker can be hooked after making a ball and roll out, why is their opponent NOT allowed to roll out one time also.
Here is a Greg Sullivan idea. Push out at any time. Whoever takes the shot has to legally pocket a ball. Miss and it is ball-in-hand.
Gregs NOT a pro player, input from top pros would be more informative.
L.S. Dennis
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Both will definitely burn white spots or lines in the cloth but what’s the alternative?
L.S. Dennis
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L.S. Dennis
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Now THAT would be interesting although I doubt that many would take the push and try to shoot knowing that if they missed their opponent would have ball in hand. I like the push out option on evety shot. That sort of the way we used to play the game many years ago.
Actually, Mahkeal Parris won the U17 World Championship in 2018. He's from the U.S. Virgin Islands.
I can draw and follow on jump shots - but not with consistent results. I quit practicing right about the time I learned to follow and draw so that explains why it's inconsistent - which I'm well aware ofI'm confident enough in my abilities to know that if I did practice enough I would also be very efficient with the jump cue - I simply like kicking more because I can control the CB much better.
And funny sidebar - I've watched that video a zillion times and I just now realized it was posted by Tanner Pruess. I don't know Tanner personally but I have met him and he's a good guy. He also recently started a training program and we are working on getting him to Boise.
@TannerPruess , looking forward to meeting you in August
Can't wait, going to be a blast!
Do they play by international wpa rules there?
Must be your place because in OKC there is hundred to 5000$ action nightly and weekly.
Just curious if you ever actually counted? In this thread for example I am seeing plenty of people whose opinions match mine.
The action in my city is pretty amazing also, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not happening.
Why is not amazing that losing position and recovering is not appreciated. I mean think about it for a moment, bad roll, or hit just a bit too hard or too easy and now the shooter goes from an easy out to a hard one.
Given that the shot went from easy to difficult now the shooter has to come with extraordinary skill just to hit the ball and even more to control both balls. Doesn't matter where a masse', a kick or a jump is used, the shot is exponentially tougher.
You remember back when we were beginners and we made our first stop shot, then we learned to draw our ball.... Then we saw Mike Massey do an exhibition and realized that there was so much more that could be done with the cue ball. But just having a chalked cue only allowed us the possibility to draw two table lengths. To acquire Mike skills we would need to put in a massive amount of practice.
We were no longer impressed with two foot draw. So it is with jump cues. No player really wants to have to jump, or to have to masse' or kick. But they certainly have to learn how to do all that and draw their ball table length if they want all of the range that tools like modern cues, chalk, tips, diamonds, great cloth, and consistent rubber provides to them.
I was once in the fence about jumping, for a long time I didn't own a jump cue. But once I saw them selling and knew that I could provide one that worked as well or better I got busy learning how to use it so that I could demonstrate them properly.
And so it was through this skill-building and subsequent teaching that I learned that it is not nearly as easy as it looks and even a simple jump shot requires a decent amount of skill to complete consistently well.
What is the purest form? Because 150 years ago or so they played with things called maces, basically long clubs.
Or maybe just play without chalk?
There is no purest form in pocket billiards because the sport contains a multitude of table sizes and configurations and many different games. 9 ball and one pocket are relatively recent games. I don't think that there is a game in the rule books now that is played the same way it was in 1900.
For me it goes like this, as long as the shooter controls the shot by his own physical actions and the equipment is not moving on its own and doesn't damage the other equipment then I think it should be allowed.
For example if jump cues had been introduced and accepted in 1920 then I believe that no player today would be against them in any fashion.
And people forget or don't know that jump cues were created before the world went to one foul. Players used to push to jump shots in two-foul. Those who had cues with better jumpability were at an advantage in those days. Players with meuccis were screwed back then unless they had a jump cue, which meucci made one of as well.
Umm having to come with a much more difficult shot or give up ball in hand is penalty enough.