I saw shots in that match, that never would have gone in on my table.
In the first rack the kid totally missed the seven ball and it went in anyway.
In the first rack the kid totally missed the seven ball and it went in anyway.
Of course.11-1 the kid on the last 12 racks -That's not luck!
Of course it isn't luck. Shane said he didn't play well in the post-match interview. Yes, it's AZB, so the countless Shane apologists are sure to come out in droves to make the usual excuses for him (bad luck, format didn't suit him, wrong break rules, nine ball is mostly luck, etc.), but credit to Shane for holding himself fully accountable. He got outplayed, and that can happen. In the way he handled himself, he showed how a champion conducts himself in defeat.11-1 the kid on the last 12 racks -That's not luck!
I only saw the very end of the match. The first one I've watched from this event. In the first rack the kid totally missed the seven ball and it went in anyway. My thought was these are great tables for beginners! I couldn't tell which ball was which, so call me old school. They are slowly snookerizing pool. Soon we will see smaller balls and a larger table. Genius!![]()
With how things are looking for the future of Team USA in the mosconi cup, I’m not sure I’d want to be part of the group responsible for that team’s performance. Hell, they got beat so bad in 2020 that Chris Robinson had to change his name.They just announced that Shane would be the vice captain of the US Mosconi Cup team. It wasn’t clear if he‘d be a playing vice-captain, but in recent years the vice captain did not play.
Yes for sure- On the Youtube stream half the folks sounded like Earl complaining about the luck of his opponents while losing 9-5.Of course it isn't luck. Shane said he didn't play well in the post-match interview. Yes, it's AZB, so the countless Shane apologists are sure to come out in droves to make the usual excuses for him (bad luck, format didn't suit him, wrong break rules, nine ball is mostly luck, etc.), but credit to Shane for holding himself fully accountable. He got outplayed, and that can happen. In the way he handled himself, he showed how a champion conducts himself in defeat.
With how things are looking for the future of Team USA in the mosconi cup, I’m not sure I’d want to be part of the group responsible for that team’s performance. Hell, they got beat so bad in 2020 that Chris Robinson had to change his name.
As usual, Jay, you are correct. Matchroom set the tables up too easy for a World Championship, and it has helped the chances of some of the less elite. How obvious is this? Check it out:I only saw the very end of the match. The first one I've watched from this event. In the first rack the kid totally missed the seven ball and it went in anyway. My thought was these are great tables for beginners! I couldn't tell which ball was which, so call me old school. They are slowly snookerizing pool. Soon we will see smaller balls and a larger table. Genius!![]()
Pool is a faithless and fickle game.Some stats on the Shane and Oliver match
Missed Shots (not including jump shots)
Shane missed 8 shots and left Oliver a shot on 5 of those misses.
Oliver missed 7 shots leaving Shane a shot on 3 of the misses and fluking a ball on 2 of them.
Safety Shots (not including kick safes)
Shane played 8 safeties (7 good and 1 bad)
Oliver played 13 safeties (7 good and 6 bad)
Positional Errors
Shane had 0
Oliver had 2
Don't think it had anything to do with it, the top players just played bad.As usual, Jay, you are correct. Matchroom set the tables up too easy for a World Championship, and it has helped the chances of some of the less elite. How obvious is this? Check it out:
World Pool Masters (tight pockets)
The final four (Fargo in parentheses) were Kazakis (802) SVB (828) Filler (827) Kaci (815), with an average Fargo of 818. Now that's elite and the cream rose to the top.
World Championship (pockets loosened by 1/4")
Only two of the last eight have Fargo rates that put them among the best 35 players in the world and nobody is above 811.
Matchroom got burned a little with the equipment change.
On that point, here's what I wrote in this thread before the event began, quoting directly from post #19.Don't think it had anything to do with it, the top players just played bad.
Europeans, Filipinos, Taiwanese usually split up roughly equally about 70% to 90% of quarterfinalists or last 16 in international majors (W9B, USO,IO,CO,W10B,AJ). In terms of major titles won in last 5 years, Filipinos do not fare as well-most notable win is Biado winning this event in 2017. The most successful since 2016 are the Europeans who won almost half of the majors followed by the Taiwanese (excluding Wu)I'm inclined to disagree. In the last sixteen, to be successful, you need to know how to grind and win the racks that have to be fought for. Nobody does it like the Filipinos, and if the stars of the Philippines had been here and in form, I strongly believe that one of them would have snapped off this event.
You really know how to rain on a parade, lol.You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and a DCC Master of the Table is a great achievement, a testament to all around excellence. That said, probably 98% of the world's one pocket players are American and 99.5% of the world's bank pool players are American, so what's the point of comparison.
It's also worth noting that the elite aren't always present at the Derby. For example, none of these players were at the 2020 Derby city Classic:
JL Chang, Kevin Chang, Anton Raga, Xiaohuai Zheng, Carlo Biado, Wu Jiaqing, Ko Pin Yi, Ko Ping Chung, Albin Ouschan, Niels Feijen, Francisco Sanchez Ruiz. Klenti Kaci, and Fedor Gorst.
That's thirteen of the world's twenty best based on Fargo. Let's not try to confuse the kind of fields you get at the Derby to those found at majors like the US Open, China Open, All Japan and the World Championship. The Derby is great, but it's not quite a gathering of all the elite.