What happened to Min Wai Chin?

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What happened to Min Wai Chin? I can't seem to find much information about the guy other than the video above, and that he travelled to the US open straight pool championship 2000 and made it to the final, in a really tough field. Apparently he drew lots of applauses with his style of play. Some sources say he had a high run of 500:


Anyone know of this guy? Does/did he only play straight pool? shouldn't be possible the guy just turned up from overseas in one big time championship, made it to the final and then disappeared..
 
WWDS. what would danny say?

Shots like that are fun, but its like taking out a jump cue...
 

What happened to Min Wai Chin? I can't seem to find much information about the guy other than the video above, and that he travelled to the US open straight pool championship 2000 and made it to the final, in a really tough field. Apparently he drew lots of applauses with his style of play. Some sources say he had a high run of 500:


Anyone know of this guy? Does/did he only play straight pool? shouldn't be possible the guy just turned up from overseas in one big time championship, made it to the final and then disappeared..
If he still plays(he's 50 now) my guess is he stays in Taiwan/China area.
 

What happened to Min Wai Chin? I can't seem to find much information about the guy other than the video above, and that he travelled to the US open straight pool championship 2000 and made it to the final, in a really tough field. Apparently he drew lots of applauses with his style of play. Some sources say he had a high run of 500:


Anyone know of this guy? Does/did he only play straight pool? shouldn't be possible the guy just turned up from overseas in one big time championship, made it to the final and then disappeared..

I went to that tournament and watched a couple of his matches.

He is a very smooth, natural (and tall), player. One thing I noticed was that he was wearing kind of braided bracelet with two beads dangling down to the base of his hand on his stroking wrist. I remember wondering if somehow they weren't some kind of training aid to help him know when he was setup or stroking right. Anywhos, he played wonderfully.

Lou Figueroa
 
I was there watching in 2000- it was at Roseland in NYC- I remember the first day, a lot of people were watching him warm up in the practice area. Johnny Ervolino liked the way Min played the game. I have the original program from the event. The guy was sharp and cool - a real pro player in his demeanor. I just don't know if there was enough money in pool for guys like him to keep pressing on throughout the U.S. We were fortunate to have Mika, the Germans, Niels, and the Phiipinos to come here and show us what others could do with the game.

Remember Fung Pang Chao - 2 time World and 3 time Intl. Challenge winner in 9 ball- Saw him 3 times in CT at the Mohegan Sun - another great Taiwanese player- I think in any era he would have been one of the best. Just think, to travel across the world 3 times to CT. for the Intl Challenge and win it against the very best! All single elimination events!!
 
I went to that tournament and watched a couple of his matches.

He is a very smooth, natural (and tall), player. One thing I noticed was that he was wearing kind of braided bracelet with two beads dangling down to the base of his hand on his stroking wrist. I remember wondering if somehow they weren't some kind of training aid to help him know when he was setup or stroking right. Anywhos, he played wonderfully.

Lou Figueroa
I was there watching in 2000- it was at Roseland in NYC- I remember the first day, a lot of people were watching him warm up in the practice area. Johnny Ervolino liked the way Min played the game. I have the original program from the event. The guy was sharp and cool - a real pro player in his demeanor. I just don't know if there was enough money in pool for guys like him to keep pressing on throughout the U.S. We were fortunate to have Mika, the Germans, Niels, and the Phiipinos to come here and show us what others could do with the game.

Remember Fung Pang Chao - 2 time World and 3 time Intl. Challenge winner in 9 ball- Saw him 3 times in CT at the Mohegan Sun - another great Taiwanese player- I think in any era he would have been one of the best. Just think, to travel across the world 3 times to CT. for the Intl Challenge and win it against the very best! All single elimination events!!

cool stories, would have liked to be there.

i suppose if he was a straight pool specialist there weren't many reasons to make the trip over. one doesn't think of the taiwanese as straight pool players, i guess he is/was an exception
 
cool stories, would have liked to be there.

i suppose if he was a straight pool specialist there weren't many reasons to make the trip over. one doesn't think of the taiwanese as straight pool players, i guess he is/was an exception
I'm going to bet he was the type that had a mentor steeped into the history of pocket billiards. He must have realized the great history of 14.1 in America with the likes of Greenleaf, Mosconi, etc. etc. - Just as the earlier Japanese idolized Babe Ruth as they adopted baseball - Min probably set out to be the best in the world at the historic game of 14.1. He came close in his only attempt, not sure if he ever came back here to play again.
 
Ball did not kiss off the one,, and he came with the shot that was needed

mr incardona isn't always right.

but billy does have great conceptualization for identifying shots in both straight pool and one pocket, i like him commentating those disciplines. the same is true with dallas west and nick varner.
 
cool stories, would have liked to be there.

i suppose if he was a straight pool specialist there weren't many reasons to make the trip over. one doesn't think of the taiwanese as straight pool players, i guess he is/was an exception

I recall writing about my visit to that event on RSB.

Here's a portion, if there's interest I can dig up the rest:

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Well, I be back from the NY and have finally caught up on my sleep time, so
I thought I'd share some random thoughts about the Open. Since others,
notably Gideon, have done an excellent job recapping the games, I'll just
give you the Andy Rooney coverage.

I flew into NY courtesy of a wonderful TWA counter agent named Bonnie
Gillham. When I arrived at Lambert International I found my 11 am flight
had been cancelled. All other TWA flights were full, so she -- quite
literally -- ran over to the Delta counter and got me a seat via Cincinnati
that arrived early enough that I didn't have to eat my $70 Friday evening
ticket.

For those of you that have never flown into JFK, it might be akin to
touching down somewhere during the Fall of Saigon. Total madness. I called
a Super Shuttle, Fodor's recommendation, and was told it'd be a 30 minute
wait. So I went outside to the cab line. 30 people in line, and no cabs.
Then I saw a bus that claimed "All NY Hotels $13." I climbed aboard. And,
we zoomed into rush hour traffic. The fifteen-mile ride took an hour.

Probably the most interesting sight on the way in are the cemeteries. Huge,
really big cemeteries, that seem to stretch way into the distance. (It
really kind puts the start of your trip into perspective.) After
transferring to another shuttle, I found my hotel, two blocks from the
tournament. A king-size bed, but the space between it and the walls would
have required the shorty cue.

The Roseland Ballroom is tucked away on 52nd West just off Broadway, a few
blocks from Times Square. It's a room that obviously has seen better days,
but the tournament promoters created a small island of pool perfection on a
thick bright red carpet on which they set six gold crowns covered in Simonis
860. Highly polished Centennials floated on the tables. Special bleachers,
reputedly flown in from England, courtesy of Barry Hearns, fenced in three
sides of the arena, while the fourth side was a tall riser hidden by black
curtains atop which were the Accu-Stats cameras, booth, and assorted
officials and players.

I watched Dallas West play Ginky. Ginky looks like he's put on some weight.
In any case he played poorly, and Dallas wins one for the old timers
150-101. I also watch Rempe smoothly take out Engert 150-103. Bob Jewett
walks by but doesn't recognize me. But in his defense, the last time we saw
each other was at an ACUI tournament more than 25 years ago. He looks much
older now :) He's walking with this mad scientist look on his face and a
thin Samsonite brief case that appears welded to his right hand. (What kind
of a guy brings a briefcase to a pool tournament?!?) No other RSBers in
sight. By the time I get out of the tournament it's 1am.

Even in the "city that doesn't sleep" finding substanance at that hour is
tough. I figure Times Square is my best bet so I walk the few blocks there
and find out that besides the giant billboards, lights, and jumbotrons,
Times Square is mainly populated at that hour by guys who have parked their
cars, vans, or other preferred mode of private transportation curbside. All
of these vehicles have had "substantial" modifications made to their sound
systems and the doors are all wide open and the volume is cranked up to 11.
I wasn't quite sure whether the idea was music appreciation, music sampling
with and eye towards selling CDs, or attracting females. Maybe all of the
above. So it was McDonalds and off to beddybye.
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Lou Figueroa
 
I recall writing about my visit to that event on RSB.

Here's a portion, if there's interest I can dig up the rest:

#####
Well, I be back from the NY and have finally caught up on my sleep time, so
I thought I'd share some random thoughts about the Open. Since others,
notably Gideon, have done an excellent job recapping the games, I'll just
give you the Andy Rooney coverage.

I flew into NY courtesy of a wonderful TWA counter agent named Bonnie
Gillham. When I arrived at Lambert International I found my 11 am flight
had been cancelled. All other TWA flights were full, so she -- quite
literally -- ran over to the Delta counter and got me a seat via Cincinnati
that arrived early enough that I didn't have to eat my $70 Friday evening
ticket.

For those of you that have never flown into JFK, it might be akin to
touching down somewhere during the Fall of Saigon. Total madness. I called
a Super Shuttle, Fodor's recommendation, and was told it'd be a 30 minute
wait. So I went outside to the cab line. 30 people in line, and no cabs.
Then I saw a bus that claimed "All NY Hotels $13." I climbed aboard. And,
we zoomed into rush hour traffic. The fifteen-mile ride took an hour.

Probably the most interesting sight on the way in are the cemeteries. Huge,
really big cemeteries, that seem to stretch way into the distance. (It
really kind puts the start of your trip into perspective.) After
transferring to another shuttle, I found my hotel, two blocks from the
tournament. A king-size bed, but the space between it and the walls would
have required the shorty cue.

The Roseland Ballroom is tucked away on 52nd West just off Broadway, a few
blocks from Times Square. It's a room that obviously has seen better days,
but the tournament promoters created a small island of pool perfection on a
thick bright red carpet on which they set six gold crowns covered in Simonis
860. Highly polished Centennials floated on the tables. Special bleachers,
reputedly flown in from England, courtesy of Barry Hearns, fenced in three
sides of the arena, while the fourth side was a tall riser hidden by black
curtains atop which were the Accu-Stats cameras, booth, and assorted
officials and players.

I watched Dallas West play Ginky. Ginky looks like he's put on some weight.
In any case he played poorly, and Dallas wins one for the old timers
150-101. I also watch Rempe smoothly take out Engert 150-103. Bob Jewett
walks by but doesn't recognize me. But in his defense, the last time we saw
each other was at an ACUI tournament more than 25 years ago. He looks much
older now :) He's walking with this mad scientist look on his face and a
thin Samsonite brief case that appears welded to his right hand. (What kind
of a guy brings a briefcase to a pool tournament?!?) No other RSBers in
sight. By the time I get out of the tournament it's 1am.

Even in the "city that doesn't sleep" finding substanance at that hour is
tough. I figure Times Square is my best bet so I walk the few blocks there
and find out that besides the giant billboards, lights, and jumbotrons,
Times Square is mainly populated at that hour by guys who have parked their
cars, vans, or other preferred mode of private transportation curbside. All
of these vehicles have had "substantial" modifications made to their sound
systems and the doors are all wide open and the volume is cranked up to 11.
I wasn't quite sure whether the idea was music appreciation, music sampling
with and eye towards selling CDs, or attracting females. Maybe all of the
above. So it was McDonalds and off to beddybye.
#####

Lou Figueroa

yes, please. very entertaining lol
 
yes, please. very entertaining lol

Sure, why not.

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Saturday morning it was a croissant and cappuccino at the corner deli. I feel like a New Yorker shouting out my order to the counterman. Back at Roseland I am again drawn to match involving Dallas West, this time against young gun, John Schmidt. Schmidt shoots fast, smooth, and accurate. He's young and good looking and nattily dressed. I hate him. But though he gets at least three golden opportunities, Schmidt can't close and old age and cunning again triumph over youth and idealism, 150-148.

Robles gets hot, in total dead punch, and puts Archer in a comma with a 148, missing a long straight in that he should have made but puts a bravado gonna-rifle-it-in stroke on it that goes ka-blu-ee. I think he was already thinking about the applause for the 152 and out. He wins anyway, 150-24.

Walter has a chance to beat The Magician. He's on a 140 with a perfect break ball on the two ball and over cuts it. On the women's side, I've fallen in love with the Swede with the wild red hair, Ulrika Andersson. I've decided that, if asked, I will allow her to do what she will with me. Gerda is also very cute, as is Aileen Pippin. But frankly, their play is, at best, a decaf version of 14.1. I'm all for equal opportunity, but the matching prize fund for this level of play is out of line, IMO.

At a break I'm determined to eat a real meal and traipse over to Ruby Foo's off Times Square for some delicious lobster and shrimp spring rolls and pork and shitake mushroom shu mai.

Back at the tournament, Reyes keeps West in the chair with 140. During an intentional safety battle against the side of the stack Reyes touches the cue ball with his ferrule and West calls a deliberate foul. The rule books are brought out and West is found to be correct. Reyes must break and looks pissed. He wins anyway.

Watching Dick Lane shoot, I conclude there is not a one of us that should ever complain about any physical difficulty playing pool. The man’s grip arm has the serious shakes and he must take his warm up strokes by rolling his cue tip in a circle from the bottom of the cue ball up to the top and back down again, over and over. After a few of these — I suppose when he finally passes over the spot on the cue ball he wants to hit — he quickly pulls the trigger.

I spot Fred Agnir, whom I met at the DCC, stroll over and whisper, "Computer geeks must die." With him are Jimbo (think a just slightly shorter Goldberg who doesn't train quite as hard); Jeff Weiss, a quiet fellow who always seems to have a somewhat worried look on his face, but is very quick with the witty comment; and Gideon. Gideon doesn't say much, but when he does, he makes it count.

Me: "What do you think Bob has in the briefcase?”
Gideon: "The master copy of the Jacksonville Project.”

At some point several of us break for dinner at a steak house across the street. We are joined by Mark Griffin and his wife, of Anchorage Billiards. We enjoy general pool camaraderie, hand-cut aged steaks, and $5 baked potatoes. We generally cut up, gossip about all of you and, fortunately, are not tossed out on our collective ear. With more good grace than we deserve, Mark picks up the tab.

Back at Roseland, Wei, of Wei Table fame, stops by to say hello. I learn I've just missed meeting Tom Simpson. Afterwards several of us head to Chelsea's to shoot some but lose Jeff along the way. They get carded, I get waived in.

Chelsea's is a two story affair with very, very loud music. We go to the lower level where conversation is all but impossible and the lighting terrible, with just two industrial style lamps over each table -- the ends of the table are in total darkness. Saturday night in NY: $25 an hour table time. So Fred, Jimbo, Gideon and I play some 9ball and I learn that, after several years of 1pocket, I've forgotten how to shoot balls in rotation but all hands present are more than happy to demonstrate how it's done. I get to bed around 3 am.
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Lou Figueroa
I'll post the last day
tonight or tomorrow
 
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