Maybe... I'm still skeptical. But within the range of normal tip shapes that include 60° of arc, there's no meaningful difference.I think the difference between 'round' and 'nickel' could be meaningful
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Maybe... I'm still skeptical. But within the range of normal tip shapes that include 60° of arc, there's no meaningful difference.I think the difference between 'round' and 'nickel' could be meaningful
Hank, Howdy Doody, Dude:Patrick Johnson, Howdy;
So, as most Cue makers will use a default 13 mm size for tips what is the magic 60*
equivalent? A half-dollar? Serious question.
hank
The other day I miscued and thought I'd rough up the tip a bit. About 20 minutes later I look at the tip and noticed I hadn't struck the cue ball dead center. Center of tip was still rough.Beaten = flatter (they never get beaten rounder).
Flatter usually isn't the best shape (for reasons described above).
pj
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I rarely hit center ball, but my tip never needs flattening, always more rounding. How do we explain that?The other day I miscued and thought I'd rough up the tip a bit. About 20 minutes later I look at the tip and noticed I hadn't struck the cue ball dead center. Center of tip was still rough.
How would that kind of play flatten a tip?
You don't usually hit very far from center?I rarely hit center ball, but my tip never needs flattening, always more rounding. How do we explain that? ...
Often. Maybe usually. And my tip is 9-10mm...You don't usually hit very far from center?
Well, yes, but if you come off-center on average only far enough to get to a 15-degree slope on the ball, that will tend to make your tip flatter, I think.Often. Maybe usually. And my tip is 9-10mm...
pj
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So to make it rounder takes an average tip offset greater than half maximum? I can see that for billiards, but pool?Well, yes, but if you come off-center on average only far enough to get to a 15-degree slope on the ball, that will tend to make your tip flatter, I think.
I suspect my tip stays roundish because I chalk the edge but it's hard to be sure. Whatever is happening, I never have to reshape my tip after installation.So to make it rounder takes an average tip offset greater than half maximum? I can see that for billiards, but pool?
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I only reshape mine every several weeks, so it’s not a major difference.I suspect my tip stays roundish because I chalk the edge but it's hard to be sure. Whatever is happening, I never have to reshape my tip after installation.
Not much.... Do you not chalk the center? ...
No real need to chalk the center. Only reason IMO for even using chalk is to not miscue. Can't miscue on dead center.I only reshape mine every several weeks, so it’s not a major difference.
Do you not chalk the center?
pj
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Jim Buss told me it doesn't matter what radius he gives me, eventually the tip will conform to how you play.I rarely hit center ball, but my tip never needs flattening, always more rounding. How do we explain that?
pj
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I've heard it before from reputable players - but my own experience is different. And I wonder why tip shapers are always rounded, never flat.Jim Buss told me it doesn't matter what radius he gives me, eventually the tip will conform to how you play.
Don't know if that's a good thing or not, or if true. Sounds logical although.
Probably not the very center - except it might be more effort to avoid it.No real need to chalk the center.
Marketing is why the radius. Why is there a radius in a piece of chalk? Maybe to promote drilling the hole.I've heard it before from reputable players - but my own experience is different. And I wonder why tip shapers are always rounded, never flat.
pj
chgo
Hmm... maybe I play closer to center than I think.I haven't filed/sanded a tip other than the initial install for 40 years