A Curious CTE Diagram

Yet you instantly said I was wrong but you can’t explain why lmao. Typical

No, it's you who cannot explain.

You frequently ask folks here to post explanations, in detail, (or even create a video for you, lol) but when someone asks you to do the same it's always a variation on: "I don’t feel like researching your posts" or "it's been explained to you a thousand times." Or, just perhaps, you don't know anywhere near as much about Pro1 as you claim because, if you did, it wouldn't be such a big deal for you to respond in a forthcoming manner.

Regardless, as you've said now, "it is all explained in the book" or "It's all diagrammed in the book." So it's easy to reference particulars, such as head tilt. And you standard comeback, "you have no idea what CTE even is or how to do it" doesn't fly anymore.

Lou Figueroa
 
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No, it's you who cannot explain.

You frequently ask folks here to post explanations, in detail, (or even create a video for you, lol) but when someone asks you to do the same it's always a variation on: "I don’t feel like researching your posts." or "it's been explained to you a thousand times." Or, just perhaps, you don't know anywhere near as much about Pro1 as you claim because, if you did, it wouldn't be such a big deal for you to respond in a forthcoming manner."

Regardless, as you've said now, "it is all explained in the book" or "It's all diagrammed in the book." So it's easy to reference particulars, such as head tilt. And you standard comeback, "you have no idea what CTE even is or how to do it" doesn't fly anymore.

Lou Figueroa
Yea I frequently ask posters to explain there wrong opinions and as usual they can’t. Keyboard opinions should be backed up with something real so yes I ask for more details. YOU said I was wrong about it being CTE in its final form but can offer nothing real to back it up as usual. I’m done with you again. You just aren’t worth it.
 
Yea I frequently ask posters to explain there wrong opinions and as usual they can’t. Keyboard opinions should be backed up with something real so yes I ask for more details. YOU said I was wrong about it being CTE in its final form but can offer nothing real to back it up as usual. I’m done with you again. You just aren’t worth it.

Well, what about explaining your opinions?

How about backing up what you say for a change with something real and a few details?

Lou Figueroa
 
There ya go. Complete with service packs . Not the latest service packs though .

On a related note, I think publication of "the book" will probably end up being more of a boon to critics than supporters because now it's all out there in black and white.

"There’s letters sealed; and my two schoolfellows,
Whom I will trust as I will adders fanged,
They bear the mandate; they must sweep my way
And marshal me to knavery. Let it work,
For ’tis the sport to have the enginer
Hoist with his own petard; and ’t shall go hard
But I will delve one yard below their mines
And blow them at the moon. O, ’tis most sweet
When in one line two crafts directly meet."

— Prince Hamlet, in Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4.[4]

Lou Figueroa
 
Yea I frequently ask posters to explain there wrong opinions and as usual they can’t. Keyboard opinions should be backed up with something real so yes I ask for more details. YOU said I was wrong about it being CTE in its final form but can offer nothing real to back it up as usual. I’m done with you again. You just aren’t worth it.
To be fair, you stated that Lou described this "head tilt" process incorrectly and he claims he got the description from the book. He then asked for you to clarify what he supposedly got wrong. No reply from you in that regard. So in that instance, he backed up his comments and you have not.
 
One thing I'm confused about regarding CTE and this book. Some keep saying that it can't be diagramed for whatever reason. Yet we have access to a 400 page book that should, I hope, have at least a few illustrations focusing on the diagraming of the process/steps involved.

Yes/No..?

Why can't we just screen shot a couple of these pages and put this to bed already?
 
To be fair, you stated that Lou described this "head tilt" process incorrectly and he claims he got the description from the book. He then asked for you to clarify what he supposedly got wrong. No reply from you in that regard. So in that instance, he backed up his comments and you have not.
He described it as an awkward out of whack move. That’s not a description from the book. It’s an outright wrong assumption.
Our current discussion is over me saying Landon and Tyler were performing CTE in its final form. Lou disagreed, said I was wrong but cannot offer any clear evidence as to why he thinks I was wrong.
 
One thing I'm confused about regarding CTE and this book. Some keep saying that it can't be diagramed for whatever reason. Yet we have access to a 400 page book that should, I hope, have at least a few illustrations focusing on the diagraming of the process/steps involved.

Yes/No..?

Why can't we just screen shot a couple of these pages and put this to bed already?
It’s copy righted material. And besides professional instructors information should not be reposted anywhere. That’s just plain wrong.
 
He described it as an awkward out of whack move. That’s not a description from the book. It’s an outright wrong assumption.
But actually, I do recall a brief mention after the stuff about "poking your head out" (don't ask). SS says that you have to preserve the sight line and, because of the distance between your eyes and the shot, a slightly angled head is desirable. You increase the angle as you get closer to the CB and into shooting position by increasing the angle of your head towards the cutting edge of the CB. As to calibrating that, he says it'll go from "slight to moderate."
This is what he posted... I'm struggling to find anything that even insinuates what you claim.

So my point remains. Lou posts what I would call an interpretation he gleened from the book (supposedly), and you say he's wrong. Care to back your reasoning..?
 
It’s copy righted material. And besides professional instructors information should not be reposted anywhere. That’s just plain wrong.
Ya, I guess if I was trying to earn a buck with the content I'd probably enforce copyright as well. I know there's a serious history with Stan and some of the group here on AZB, but you'd think okee dokee'ing a pic or two that might shut down the bashers would be volunteered.
 
This is what he posted... I'm struggling to find anything that even insinuates what you claim.

So my point remains. Lou posts what I would call an interpretation he gleened from the book (supposedly), and you say he's wrong. Care to back your reasoning..?
Yea thats after Lou edited what he wrote.
 
Yea thats after Lou edited what he wrote.
Ok, I'll assume you're correct about the 'after the fact' editing. I was paying attention to the thread but could have very easily missed the original content of the post. However, as I have quoted it (which cannot change unless I do so), is there something inaccurate with his description of the head tilt..?
 
Ok, I'll assume you're correct about the 'after the fact' editing. I was paying attention to the thread but could have very easily missed the original content of the post. However, as I have quoted it (which cannot change unless I do so), is there something inaccurate with his description of the head tilt..?
No not really except that it is incomplete information.
 
No not really except that it is incomplete information.
Ok cool... As long as the current info posted isn't flat out wrong. I'm sure if someone was overly concerned about the partial info then they could elaborate. ...however I guess we would need to be conerned about that copyright thing again.
 
Now, go ahead deny Hal claimed he gave Efren lessons.
 
According to Hal, he taught Efren. Bet a LOT of people will disagree with that statement, but that's what Hal told me;)

LOL LOL LOL
this is when the houligans attacked me when I called that BS
 
Now, go ahead deny Hal claimed he gave Efren lessons.
I am guessing you didn't watch the video. Stan was relating hearsay and being clear to say that there is no direct evidence for anything concerning Efren and Hal.

You know Efren, do a video call and ask him directly and report his answer.

I can tell you that when Hal and I met he demonstrated several ways to aim and attached several pro names to them. I, of course, had no way to verify any of that information. However it was not even relevant for me as the only thing I was interested in is whether Hal could teach me something that was of benefit to me. And he did exactly that as I have related several times in this forum.

In the video Stan is speculating, based on observation related to him, that Efren was aiming in a way that appeared similar to cte. He further postulates that the motions of a lot of top players suggests that they also use their vision in a way that produces similar structure to what is produced when a person uses cte. He further suggests that down the barrel aiming, or what is being asked of ghost ball users is actually not what most pros use.

Obviously without some serious study, interviews and examples such a statement cannot be given any validity outside of the speculation context in which it was offered.

In the thread I found easily, contrary to your claims of being difficult up look up older threads, the question of whether Hal directly taught Efren anything was addressed and answered quite clearly.

However nowhere was it claimed by Stan that Efren went to Pennsylvania directly to learn from Hal as you claimed. Maybe someone somewhere claimed that in error but it has not been a central claim in cte that cte users and students are being told as a matter of course.

I can see however that you are addicted at this point to your quixotic attempts to discredit CTE. I apologize for not realizing that you are a sick individual who traded one junkie habit for another.

I hope you find peace.
 
According to Hal, he taught Efren. Bet a LOT of people will disagree with that statement, but that's what Hal told me;)

LOL LOL LOL
this is when the houligans attacked me when I called that BS
Why are you so sick in the head that you exclude the rest of the conversation on that point. I found a thread that you couldn't and posted the link to the whole conversation.

The poster who made that comment later recanted after calling Hal directly for further clarification.

I feel so sorry for you. I would contact Efren and ask him directly if I thought it matters. But it doesn't matter because whether or not Efren was ever in the same room as Hal has no bearing on the topic of this thread nor on the topic of CTE efficacy.

You are busy maligning a deceased person based on a third party hearsay comment that was later retracted after going directly to the source.

At this point I am going to say you are in the perverted, twisted, crippled category. It is unfortunate but I guess everyone needs something to give their life purpose and attempting to discredit a form of aiming by defaming the living and the dead appears to your current self-chosen one.
 
Why are you so sick in the head that you exclude the rest of the conversation on that point. I found a thread that you couldn't and posted the link to the whole conversation.

The poster who made that comment later recanted after calling Hal directly for further clarification.

I feel so sorry for you. I would contact Efren and ask him directly if I thought it matters. But it doesn't matter because whether or not Efren was ever in the same room as Hal has no bearing on the topic of this thread nor on the topic of CTE efficacy.

You are busy maligning a deceased person based on a third party hearsay comment that was later retracted after going directly to the source.

At this point I am going to say you are in the perverted, twisted, crippled category. It is unfortunate but I guess everyone needs something to give their life purpose and attempting to discredit a form of aiming by defaming the living and the dead appears to your current self-chosen one.
Go ahead contact him . Just like that CTE instructor there who said he was going to ask Efren if he really saw an aiming guru in PA. He never reported back .
You're the sick pathological dude .
To even consider Efren taking aiming lessons from Hal is laughable already .
Hal used to post here and went after me . So did Drivermaker . Drivermaker even claimed I did not know Efren personally . Hal did not refute the claim that Efren took aiming lessons from him . He did call me a nickname I forgot .
Stan in that video suggests Efren uses CTE . Full blown BULLSH8.
When Efren came here, he was already an insane pocketing machine . Bro, he did not need any aiming lessons from someone he could have given the orange crush .
He and Jose were nailing the spot shots on the Big Bertha at HT .

As far as your sermon, you're just another hypocrite .
If you fight for the truth, you're a freaking hero.
If I do it, I'm evil .
Stick your sermon up your corona virus conspiracy theory .
Why don't wake the last honest bone of yours up ?
Being pathological is pretty sorry .
 
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