SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts

This will sound cynical, but I imagine there'd be a dozen creative ways to subtly shark John while he was playing, if he showed up . . .
. . . and John knows that -- sorry and unfortunate to realistically envision this possibility. We've all been around the block in this regard.

Arnaldo
Danny Harriman would stand off back in the audience and throw chalk at him.
After every shot, Lou would loudly proclaim "Maybe he made that shot, and maybe he didn't"
Earl would go ballistic over something and have the ref in a headlock while John was trying to shoot..
Mike Duschene would be at the next table, loudly chalking his cue. Squeak-aw, squeak-aw, squeak-aw.
Joshua Filler would have Pia moving around so she was always in John's line of sight, smiling at him.
XradarX would take off his Danny Harriman headgear, and sneak around the hall trying to find a fire alarm pull-box he could reach.
 
Dude lost all credibility(as if he hadn't already) when he said Shane is the best straight pool player in America. What a joke
SVB is our best player currently and has been for a long time and will be.

But he’s not the best 14.1 player in America, and I’m certain he would say the same thing.

SVB ain’t a bullshitter, I respect that.

Best
Fatboy
 
R_e_s_p_e_c_t!, is earned, not demanded!
Give us a break.
John earned it. Mosconi could be an asshole but he was respected for his accomplishments.

But my response to Gerry F was in recondition of the software he is developing and using for this analysis.
 
So you accept this opinion piece but not the BCA's word, not Bob Jewett's word, not Freddie Agnir's word, not the owner of the room's word, not the word of the Predator Group, one of the major major sponsors in pool, their testimonials as to the validity of John's run are not good enough? But the opinion of some random person who says he thinks that the claimants are honest is enough for you to ignore John's 626 and go with Cranfield's 768 as the high run you think is the world record. Even IF you think that snubbing John's 626 is classless.
Right on, JB. Many have questioned the validity of John's run and some have genuine doubts, but their opinion, even if possibly well-grounded, is ultimately unimportant. BCA certification of the run closes the matter for me. This is the organization authorized to certify the record and they have done so. John has the record, plain and simple, unless somebody runs more than 626, of course. Many widely known historical events lack incontrovertible proof of occurrence, but it has been commonplace for a long, long time to accept the accounts of such events from those present or those whose profession was to record events for history.

Questioning the integrity of those who certify high runs is pointless. Nobody gains from falsely certifying a high run. Cranfield's run is very well known and was corroborated by people who are credible, but the run was not certified as an exhibition run, and is, correctly, not recognized as the world exhibition record.

I doubt John's record will be exceeded in his lifetime, but you never know, for there are some shooters possessing the skills to beat 626, and these attempts are being made on very easy equipment. I just can't convince myself than anyone out there will have the passion and staying power that John exhibited in trying to achieve the record.

Just as you suggest, John needs to be given his due. He is, indeed, the world record holder.
 
It may be doable, it may not.

Like I just said, we're new at this and the on-site guys are doing good work and putting in long hours. Give them a chance.

Lou Figueroa
Not saying they are not. I am grateful for the work everyone is putting in for this and I catch the stream when I can because it is cool to see these players that are not really known for straight pull do high runs. Just saying it would be nice if it could be posted somewhere for people to see.
 
Right on, JB. Many have questioned the validity of John's run and some have genuine doubts, but their opinion, even if possibly well-grounded, is ultimately unimportant. BCA certification of the run closes the matter for me. This is the organization authorized to certify the record and they have done so. John has the record, plain and simple, unless somebody runs more than 626, of course. Many widely known historical events lack incontrovertible proof of occurrence, but it has been commonplace for a long, long time to accept the accounts of such events from those present or those whose profession was to record events for history.

Questioning the integrity of those who certify high runs is pointless. Nobody gains from falsely certifying a high run. Cranfield's run is very well known and was corroborated by people who are credible, but the run was not certified as an exhibition run, and is, correctly, not recognized as the world exhibition record.

I doubt John's record will be exceeded in his lifetime, but you never know, for there are some shooters possessing the skills to beat 626, and these attempts are being made on very easy equipment. I just can't convince myself than anyone out there will have the passion and staying power that John exhibited in trying to achieve the record.

Just as you suggest, John needs to be given his due. He is, indeed, the world record holder.
You think it can be beaten, just that it probably won't in light of the sustained, long term effort it would take, is that correct? If so, I agree that it can be broken. I also think it could have been broken by at least one of the "Late Straight Pool Greats" like Mizerak, Rempe, Sigel, Varner, West etc. if you locked them in a pool room long enough (or told Mike he couldn't go fishing until he ran 527).

I guess a 14.1 high could be sui generis among other records - but we routinely see other records being broken in other sports. I guess one way of looking at these attempts would be similar to the 1:59 Challenge, which attempted to break the 2 hour marathon mark using optimal conditions. It was thought to be all but impossible to break the 2 hour mark. It happened, but isn't recognized as a competition record because of the conditions; but is, however, recognized as the fastest marathon time generally.

But it did take a little time even with the optimal conditions.

I would personally love to see it broken. I think it's absolutely incredible Mosconi just happened to do it, after his best playing days, randomly in some pool hall out in Ohio without the intense, near maniacal obsession it will probably take to do again. Forget about the pocket size or size of the table. Of course, he was Willie Mosconi, but even for him a 526 is such a singular spectacular event, it's incredible to think it happened at all.
 
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Right on, JB. Many have questioned the validity of John's run and some have genuine doubts, but their opinion, even if possibly well-grounded, is ultimately unimportant. BCA certification of the run closes the matter for me. This is the organization authorized to certify the record and they have done so. John has the record, plain and simple, unless somebody runs more than 626, of course. Many widely known historical events lack incontrovertible proof of occurrence, but it has been commonplace for a long, long time to accept the accounts of such events from those present or those whose profession was to record events for history.

Questioning the integrity of those who certify high runs is pointless. Nobody gains from falsely certifying a high run. Cranfield's run is very well known and was corroborated by people who are credible, but the run was not certified as an exhibition run, and is, correctly, not recognized as the world exhibition record.

I doubt John's record will be exceeded in his lifetime, but you never know, for there are some shooters possessing the skills to beat 626, and these attempts are being made on very easy equipment. I just can't convince myself than anyone out there will have the passion and staying power that John exhibited in trying to achieve the record.

Just as you suggest, John needs to be given his due. He is, indeed, the world record holder.
Well said Stu. Granted Shane isn't a straight pool guy but he hasn't run over 200 during the event. If that is any foreshadowing, John's record will be safe. We will now see if those claims by players or by people talking about said players running 200 all the time/every day stand up. Either way, it is good to watch and hopefully people start doing runs themselves. I might start something like that at my pool room.
 
Oh, yeah sorry, we kind of expected the millionaire to have it all figured out before going live. Maybe he should have hired the Professor and Mary Ann.

oh, now you're speaking for "we."

Split personality or is it that squirrel in your pocket?

Lou Figueroa
 
A PR pro undoubtedly knows that the public will characterize his remarks any way they want to. Snapping at fans comes off as irritated.

If you feel I'm "snapping at fans" in this thread you've turned into a bigger snowflake than I remember, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
Hmm, you spent years criticizing John for things like cleaning the balls, table specs, how he chose to share his historical 626 ball run.... And yet you couldn't stop yourselves from making simple mistakes..... Isn't it ironic... Don't ya think? A little too ironic, yeah I really do think. (Credit to Alanis Morrissete)



Because a project centered around numbers and super duper transparency wasn't important enough to figure this out before launch?

Saw "Jagged Little Pill" a couple of years ago on Broadway -- it was great.

Lou Figueroa
 
If he left it at best player in the US that goes without question.

I've heard the chatter about them snubbing John but I haven't been paying attention until last night, was really surprised he actually said that Shane was best straight pool player.

I guess if you count a guy as no longer playing when he has hand surgery then I can probably agree, but damn, they act like he "quit" playing years ago and has no intention of playing again.

I'm glad they're doing this and wish everybody good luck, but damn

How long has it been since JS last competed in a 14.1 tournament?

Lou Figueroa
 
I don’t see anyone “drilling” SVB at any game. Might beat him, might not, but there won’t be any drilling taking place. Right??

HEY! You can''y say any of that might, might not stuff! Trolls will be all over you, lol.

Lou Figueroa
gonna take out
a copyright
 
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If you feel I'm "snapping at fans" in this thread you've turned into a bigger snowflake than I remember, lol.

Lou Figueroa
Snowflake seems like the appropriate term for a master public relations professional with a very loose definition of the truth to use.
 
Imo, any discussions about Mr. 626 participating are a little early, primarily given his alleged medical situation and the fact he has not yet expressed interest in being a participant.

What I am told he is doing is bad mouthing BC on any and every pool site he can find.

Which is fine and his right but it sure doesn't help his case if he wanted in to BC' event -- an invitational. Right about now I doubt Bobby would invite him to a garage sale.

Lou Figueroa
 
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