The Simplest Aiming Systems to Visualize and Use

BC21 said:
Watch the videos please, especially #26. I mean, damn....you're the one who posted them.

And I haven't changed anything concerning what I'm saying about using Poolology. I have always used it on certain shots, when needed, every time I play. I'm 53 and playing better and more consistent now than I was before coming up with Poolology. And I just keep getting better. Like many other players have told me over the last 4 years, I wish a system like Poolology would've been available when I first started playing pool.

NOTE: Aiming ccb to ob center is a full ball overlap. If you start here, as Mike shows, then realign through ccb to aim halfway between ob center and ob edge, you are now aiming for a 3/4 overlap. He can call it a "pivot", and you can cream your jeans thinking there's something special happening, but the only thing happening is a realignment from one fractional aim line to another.
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Yeah, you're a superstar and a legend in your own mind.

You are dead wrong about all of it in the last paragraph. The CB isn't doing anything differently from it's original position to change position for an overlap. It's still a straight shot to elsewhere. The body alignment doesn't change either. The ONLY thing that changes is the tip of the cue with a different shaft angle and it's aiming not at a specific little fraction, it's aimed at what would be the 15 (or A) alignment in CTE. These individual little angle lines you keep bringing up and trying to insert into the picture are nothing but plain bullsh*t. The tip of the cue goes to A or 15!
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Yeah, you're a superstar and a legend in your own mind.

You are dead wrong about all of it in the last paragraph. The CB isn't doing anything differently from it's original position to change position for an overlap. It's still a straight shot to elsewhere. The body alignment doesn't change either. The ONLY thing that changes is the tip of the cue with a different shaft angle and it's aiming not at a specific little fraction, it's aimed at what would be the 15 (or A) alignment in CTE. These individual little angle lines you keep bringing up and trying to insert into the picture are nothing but plain bullsh*t. The tip of the cue goes to A or 15!
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Ok...try to keep up please. If the cue angle changes from a ccb-center ob aim line to a ccb-3/4 ob aim line, the grip hand and bridge hand have to change a little in order to realign the cue. His body/stance/feet aren't involved in that realignment, but it's still a realignment of the aim. Mike is aiming from a "noser" perspective every time, as Stan would say. There is no magical offset pivot.

If your eyes are directly behind the cb and you aim ccb to center object ball, as Mike shows, then you realign the cue (with or without moving your feet or body) so that now your eyes are aligned directly through ccb to the 3/4 aim reference, you simply changed your aim line.
 
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BC21 said:
You're right, Little Mike is not using Poolology. He is using guesswork fractions, the old-school/traditional way of estimating where the cb will go if you aim for a certain overlap. Here's a better way to use traditional fractions...





Concerning Poolology, I use it every single time I play - not on every single shot, but when needed. I already know you don't understand that, so no need to reply with the same ol bs about it.
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This doesn't seem like you're using it every single time you play unless it's one out of 200 shots. You stated that you're a FEEL PLAYER.

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I am a feel player, a just see it and do it player, but on some shots I use a system. If I played 40hrs per week I'd probably see those shots enough to get to know them pretty well, but I don't. Aiming is no different than any other task in this game.... the more tools you have to help with a task, the better equipped you are to perform that task.
 
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BC21 said:
You're right, Little Mike is not using Poolology. He is using guesswork fractions, the old-school/traditional way of estimating where the cb will go if you aim for a certain overlap. Here's a better way to use traditional fractions...





Concerning Poolology, I use it every single time I play - not on every single shot, but when needed. I already know you don't understand that, so no need to reply with the same ol bs about it.
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I am a feel player, a just see it and do it player, but on some shots I use a system. If I played 40hrs per week I'd probably see those shots enough to get to know them pretty well, but I don't. Aiming is no different than any other task in this game.... the more tools you have to help with a task, the better equipped you are to perform that task.

Oooops, double post. On second thought, maybe it'll sink into your head. 7 months ago you were whining about not being able to play 40 hrs per week. Now you're playing the best pool of your life at 53 years of age. I guess that FEEL PLAYING suddenly kicked in.
 
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BC21 said:
Lmao...

"Little Mike has developed his own version of Shiskabob using the center of the OB, the 1/4/ - the 3/4 - and edges along with a MANUAL PIVOT to the outside for ALL shots."
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Well, here's 90/90 developed by Ron Vitello and demonstrated by him. I'm sure you'll be able to say it's nothing more than a fractional aiming system with one of your warped comparisons. Btw, this was only a teaser for advertising and demonstration purposes. Don't think what he showed here worked only on these three shots which, I KNOW you'll say was the same angle for each of them.

 
SpiderWebComm said:
This doesn't seem like you're using it every single time you play unless it's one out of 200 shots. You stated that you're a FEEL PLAYER.

BC21​

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I am a feel player, a just see it and do it player, but on some shots I use a system. If I played 40hrs per week I'd probably see those shots enough to get to know them pretty well, but I don't. Aiming is no different than any other task in this game.... the more tools you have to help with a task, the better equipped you are to perform that task.
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? Nowhere in this do I mention any specific frequency on how often I use it.
 
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BC21​

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I am a feel player, a just see it and do it player, but on some shots I use a system. If I played 40hrs per week I'd probably see those shots enough to get to know them pretty well, but I don't. Aiming is no different than any other task in this game.... the more tools you have to help with a task, the better equipped you are to perform that task.

Oooops, double post. On second thought, maybe it'll sink into your head. 7 months ago you were whining about not being able to play 40 hrs per week. Now you're playing the best pool of your life at 53 years of age. I guess that FEEL PLAYING suddenly kicked in.
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I started playing more, certainly not 40hrs per week, but a lot more than I had been playing. I'd say I put in 20hrs per week now, focusing on exactly where I'm aiming each shot, fractionally, and incorporating that into my psr.

I also began finishing up the psychological/mental chapters in my new book, Playing to Win, and that inspired me a bit, put me in a more solid mindset to play better pool again.

So, yes... at 53 I'm playing better than I've played in a long time, and I feel like I just keep getting better.
 
BC21 said:
So, yes... at 53 I'm playing better than I've played in a long time, and I feel like I just keep getting better.
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Good for you and I sincerely mean it. There are over 2,000 of us who talk and post elsewhere who feel exactly the same way based on what we're doing. Except everyone isn't necessarily 53. Some are even older so there's hope in your future for bigger and better things.
 
BC21 said:
? Nowhere in this do I mention any specific frequency on how often I use it.
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I'll look deeper into your older posts because I know for a fact it's there. More than likely the feeling of "who gives a crap" will take over and already has. Lucky you if that happens. You may never have stated how much you use it. But what you have said it what you used almost ALL of the time. It didn't include 60% to 100% of Poolology.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Good for you and I sincerely mean it. There are over 2,000 of us who talk and post elsewhere who feel exactly the same way based on what we're doing. Except everyone isn't necessarily 53. Some are even older so there's hope in your future for bigger and better things.
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That's why I quit belittling or trashing CTE. Players are free to use any tool that works for them. It's all about playing better, and the only opinion that matters is that of the player.
 
I'm not sure about all of the "aiming concept", but I definitely like the tone of Mike's cue. Does anyone know who the cue maker is?
Eddie
 
BC21 said:
That's why I quit belittling or trashing CTE. Players are free to use any tool that works for them. It's all about playing better, and the only opinion that matters is that of the player.
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WOW!!......after seeing the above post, those guys Dan White and P. Johnson will have to up the tranquilizers and get put on suicide watch.
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BC21 said:
That's why I quit belittling or trashing CTE. Players are free to use any tool that works for them. It's all about playing better, and the only opinion that matters is that of the player.
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I wonder how many will go down your road and feel that way? It's not like those who have switched to CTE are idiots destroying their game. Personally, I've used contact points (directly from Joe Tucker), fractions, See system, lights/shadows,90/90...you name it I've learned and used it over the decades. Prior to even hearing about CTE, playing most of the big mouth know it all's for a big chunk of change wouldn't have even been a second thought. Hell, I lose to Allen Hopkins all the time but there are those times when I can hang tight. (For a while) They're not even close to being in his league.
But they do know how to hide behind phony names and the safety and security of an internet forum to spew out the crap.

So, I finally settle on using CTE and supposedly do it because I want to play WORSE nor know what the hell I'm doing? And they who have no clue how to start with it are going to tell ME it's an idiotic method that makes no sense while continuously trying to nitpick it apart?

Give me a fugging break!! I, like you, think that players are free to use any tool that works for them. But don't f***ing tell ME what I KNOW to work is worthless after I've used just about everything else for years that ALSO worked but not as consistently.
If it didn't, I'd be going right back to something else.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I wonder how many will go down your road and feel that way? It's not like those who have switched to CTE are idiots destroying their game. Personally, I've used contact points (directly from Joe Tucker), fractions, See system, lights/shadows,90/90...you name it I've learned and used it over the decades. Prior to even hearing about CTE, playing most of the big mouth know it all's for a big chunk of change wouldn't have even been a second thought. Hell, I lose to Allen Hopkins all the time but there are those times when I can hang tight. (For a while) They're not even close to being in his league.
But they do know how to hide behind phony names and the safety and security of an internet forum to spew out the crap.

So, I finally settle on using CTE and supposedly do it because I want to play WORSE nor know what the hell I'm doing? And they who have no clue how to start with it are going to tell ME it's an idiotic method that makes no sense while continuously trying to nitpick it apart?

Give me a fugging break!! I, like you, think that players are free to use any tool that works for them. But don't f***ing tell ME what I KNOW to work is worthless after I've used just about everything else for years that ALSO worked but not as consistently.
If it didn't, I'd be going right back to something else.
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I don't think many are saying CTE is worthless. The 20yr bitchfest seems to be more about how you work it, rather than the usefulness or worth/value of it.

Imagine taking an algebra class and the instructor shows you a simple equation like....10 = 2y + 4.

Any math person can look at this equation and almost immediately recognize that y = 3. A non-math person will have to work on solving for y.

If the teacher says y=3 because the number 3 falls between 2 and 4, math people will scratch their heads in disbelief, while non-math people will accept the teacher's logic. After all... 3 DOES fall between 2 and 4.

And so the 20yr debate/war begins.
 
BC21 said:
I don't think many are saying CTE is worthless. The 20yr bitchfest seems to be more about how you work it, rather than the usefulness or worth/value of it.
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So, who's tough shit is that for not learning it and taking the different steps to acquire visual knowledge? How to work it couldn't be more explicitly described for all facets of pocketing balls and playing pool. Stroke included. One can pay for it or get the info for free. How do you beat that? Don't want to? No problem. Don't take the class. But please do STFU.
BC21 said:
Imagine taking an algebra class and the instructor shows you a simple equation like....10 = 2y + 4.

Any math person can look at this equation and almost immediately recognize that y = 3. A non-math person will have to work on solving for y.

If the teacher says y=3 because the number 3 falls between 2 and 4, math people will scratch their heads in disbelief, while non-math people will accept the teacher's logic. After all... 3 DOES fall between 2 and 4.
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It's still tough shit for one of them
BC21 said:
And so the 20yr debate/war begins.
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Actually, it'll be 25 years in Sept. Same yo-yo who started it is the same yo-yo trying to keep it alive with a small few hanging
on to his mission. Why? Maybe you have an answer. Got an equation for that? How about a psychological evaluation?
 
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BC21 said:
That's why I quit belittling or trashing CTE. Players are free to use any tool that works for them. It's all about playing better, and the only opinion that matters is that of the player.
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I'd say you are entitled to use whatever system you want but you are not entitled to make up shit about how it works in order to entice others to use it as well.
 
Dan White said:
I'd say you are entitled to use whatever system you want but you are not entitled to make up shit about how it works in order to entice others to use it as well.
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I don’t think CTE users make up shit - they just aren’t capable of understanding when something they’re taught is nonsense. That’s not their fault - being belligerent dicks about it is.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I don’t think CTE users make up shit - they just aren’t capable of understanding when something they’re taught is nonsense. That’s not their fault - being belligerent dicks about it is.

pj
chgo
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Well, well. If it isn't Mr. Duncan in the flesh. Who didn't know he'd be barreling in here to make another ass of himself!
 
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