The Simplest Aiming Systems to Visualize and Use

What's to explain? Take the example of manual pivoting because it is more easily understood. If you line up cte and eta and then pivot outside this will create a particular angle whether you think so or not. If the pocket is in the right spot the shot will go. Also, isn't an eta with an inside pivot a straight in shot? If the balls happen to line up straight to the pocket then the shot is on. What if the balls are lined up to the pocket corner instead? Then you need the eta inside pivot with a little subconscious tweak.
Boogieman and any others with even a slight understanding of CTE, can you comment on Dans opinion
 
If you want to converse with the like minded, then why post in CTE threads?
oh that's easy.... I'm not in pursuit of CTE proficiency and it's been made painfully clear that unless I either buy the book and/or spend an enormant amount of time attempting to learn CTE that my questions are invalid in some fashion.

By like minded I simply mean those who share an interest in the aiming process. Not anything specific to a aiming system.
 
oh that's easy.... I'm not in pursuit of CTE proficiency and it's been made painfully clear that unless I either buy the book and/or spend an enormant amount of time attempting to learn CTE that my questions are invalid in some fashion.

By like minded I simply mean those who share an interest in the aiming process. Not anything specific to a aiming system.
What’s your aiming process?
 
Why is this so important to you?
Who said it was important other than you? Just an innocent conversation starter.
Who gives a shit really what others do.
Good point, so why aren't you following your own advice with the interruption into something that doesn't involve you? Here's a question to be answered. Why do so many give a shit about those who use CTE and attack it everyday?
Why do you cte zealots find it SO damned important that everyone agrees with you?
I could give a rat's ass if anybody agrees with me. I do what I want to do. Why are WE getting pounced on for the last 25 years
when it's nobody else's business?
You guy make Rainman look normal.
You have a history of sticking your own big nose into places where it doesn't belong in multiple forum categories and blowing off like you're somebody.
Rainman = YOU! Include self-perceived "Big Man Bully on Campus". Get lost, LOSER!
 
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Wow. Just wow. If this is the extent of your CTE experience and knowledge then it’s no wonder you argue against it. However you are so very totally wrong. ETA with an inside pivot can be a straight in shot. It could also provide the answer for multiple other angles and a few bank shots without any subconscious tweak. ETA will always cross the OB in a unique spot for each ball position, but you quite obviously don’t get or except that.
Looks like I hit a nerve. I'm explaining to you how I think it actually works. When anybody asks any of you guys we get answers like:

Spider: I don't give a shit how it works it just does.
mohrt: I think the rails create an optical illusion that puts you on the shot line... maybe
Neil (rip): It's already been explained to you a dozen times
JB: Writes a novel that nobody can understand without the Rosetta stone
cookie: Never explains anything, just throws out jabs to make someone look ignorant.
Stan: It is a phenomenon that was never meant to be.

I think it "works" because the target is to pocket the ball and the subconscious finds a way (eventually, like many months for some people) to make that happen while the player doesn't realize that he is fudging the shot. CTE users massively under appreciate the power of the mind.

Will you ever explain how it works or will you continue simply to claim that it does? If you don't know how it "works," which you clearly don't, then how do you know my, or others', explanations are wrong?
 
Looks like I hit a nerve. I'm explaining to you how I think it actually works. When anybody asks any of you guys we get answers like:

Spider: I don't give a shit how it works it just does.
mohrt: I think the rails create an optical illusion that puts you on the shot line... maybe
Neil (rip): It's already been explained to you a dozen times
JB: Writes a novel that nobody can understand without the Rosetta stone
cookie: Never explains anything, just throws out jabs to make someone look ignorant.
Stan: It is a phenomenon that was never meant to be.

I think it "works" because the target is to pocket the ball and the subconscious finds a way (eventually, like many months for some people) to make that happen while the player doesn't realize that he is fudging the shot. CTE users massively under appreciate the power of the mind.

Will you ever explain how it works or will you continue simply to claim that it does? If you don't know how it "works," which you clearly don't, then how do you know my, or others', explanations are wrong?
Stan Shuffett knows EXACTLY how it works. Not only does he know, he explains ALL of it in a book titled "CENTER POCKET MUSIC." It's all there for you to see in writing without the bonehead fallacies that have become entrenched in your limited mind. We aren't the teachers or instructors, just the users.
It will cost you $100 bucks though unless you can find it cheaper on a resale. That should be easy to do. Try Boogieman.
 
Looks like I hit a nerve. I'm explaining to you how I think it actually works. When anybody asks any of you guys we get answers like:
Unfortunately, you've never been close! And you attempt to distort it each and every time you post or quote someone.
Spider: I don't give a shit how it works it just does.
mohrt: I think the rails create an optical illusion that puts you on the shot line... maybe
Neil (rip): It's already been explained to you a dozen times
JB: Writes a novel that nobody can understand without the Rosetta stone
cookie: Never explains anything, just throws out jabs to make someone look ignorant.
Stan: It is a phenomenon that was never meant to be.

I think it "works" because the target is to pocket the ball and the subconscious finds a way (eventually, like many months for some people) to make that happen while the player doesn't realize that he is fudging the shot. CTE users massively under appreciate the power of the mind.

Will you ever explain how it works or will you continue simply to claim that it does? If you don't know how it "works," which you clearly don't, then how do you know my, or others', explanations are wrong?
 
Who said it was important other than you? Just an innocent conversation starter.

Good point, so why aren't you following your own advice with the interruption into something that doesn't involve you? Here's a question to be answered. Why do so many give a shit about those who use CTE and attack it everyday?

I could give a rat's ass if anybody agrees with me. I do what I want to do. Why are WE getting pounced on for the last 25 years
when it's nobody else's business?

You have a history of sticking your own big nose into places where it doesn't belong in multiple forum categories and blowing off like you're somebody.
Rainman = YOU! Include self-perceived "Big Man Bully on Campus". Get lost, LOSER!
You need help. Seriously. Something wrong with you. Thorazine might be an option. Maybe not.
 
So, pro instructors who use it and pro players only do it because they're followers and can't make decisions for themselves and how it affects their earnings. They just do it according to the BRILLIANT Dan White, foremost authority on everything pool. They're followers.

Man, you really are CLUELESS! What a waste of time going back and forth with this crap for the millionth time. Please describe this shot line (NO SHOT LINES) you speak about and what it takes to look right. What alterations are done when it doesn't coincide with the needed cut angle. (which really doesn't exist). How do YOU know when it isn't right? Please explain the steps of linking CB to OB on any given shot with CTE and how you do it. WHAT DO YOU SEE AND DO?

You don't know what reality is if it was an Army tank running over you. I'll say it again, YOU REALLY ARE CLUELESS!
You ask me these questions about the method like Socrates. Well, when he did it there was a payoff in the end. With CTE, there's no there there. Why don't you just save us all the suspense and just explain in plain language how Stan's discovery into unknown perception puts you on the shot line? Brian already explained Poolology clearly, why can't you do the same for CTE? I know you won't give a straight answer because the reality is that there is none. You wrote the forward to Stan's book so I don't expect an epiphany out of you any time soon.

To answer you other question, yes, mass hysteria happens all the time. Look at global warming. There is no evidence that any warming is being caused by people (even worse, much of the science is junk and some of it outright fraudulent) yet world markets are being changed. There's money to be made off it so why look into it too hard?
 
Stan Shuffett knows EXACTLY how it works. Not only does he know, he explains ALL of it in a book titled "CENTER POCKET MUSIC." It's all there for you to see in writing without the bonehead fallacies that have become entrenched in your limited mind. We aren't the teachers or instructors, just the users.
It will cost you $100 bucks though unless you can find it cheaper on a resale. That should be easy to do. Try Boogieman.
Nope. Stan said he won't be discussing why it works in the book. I think we even have that on video somewhere.
 
Boogieman, be free to feel the shot all you like, I really don’t care if that’s what you want to do. I prefer to SEE the shot using what in my opinion is the system that provides the most extensive and complete visual knowledge necessary to play pool. CTE for me all the way

If you aren’t feeling the shots very well on a particular day, what adjustments do you then make?
Cookie, you must SEE the shot before you FEEL the shot. You know when you're down on the shot and you know with 100% confidence what's going to happen? That is FEELing the shot. Aim with CTE to SEE the shot if you want, but if you MAKE the shot, you also had to FEEL it. Even if it was a 2 rail bank or an "impossible" kick that went. CTE didn't magically make the bank shot for you, you FELT the shot. Believing CTE does magical unknown routes on the table is the same as believing in luck. The thing is, STAN gives you diagrams of the 25 table matrix, the 5 X 5 table grid... if you really understand that, you know why CTE is working. If you can just understand that diagram fully (and how to adjust for table conditions with spin and speed)
Boogieman and any others with even a slight understanding of CTE, can you comment on Dans opinion
I don't speak for Dan. I will say he does understand it more than you're willing to admit. If you don't understand what a pivot does and how that relates to ABC on the cue ball, you might need to study the book a bit more or maybe the Truth Series on YouTube if you're a visual/video learner. Did you know you can make the same shot with different perceptions? How can one arrive at the NISL by perceiving different perceptions? Understanding that as well as understanding pivot will put you well on the way to answering Dan's question. I've led the horse to water, it's up to the horse if it wants to take a drink.

That should be easy to do. Try Boogieman.
Oh be still my heart! Spider remembers me by name! I've made it! Living rent free! :love:
😘😘
 
You ask me these questions about the method like Socrates. Well, when he did it there was a payoff in the end. With CTE, there's no there there. Why don't you just save us all the suspense and just explain in plain language how Stan's discovery into unknown perception puts you on the shot line?
It IS in the book. I have no idea what "unknown perceptions" means. He's quite explicit.
Brian already explained Poolology clearly, why can't you do the same for CTE? I know you won't give a straight answer because the reality is that there is none. You wrote the forward to Stan's book so I don't expect an epiphany out of you any time soon.
So, has Poolology changed the way you play pool? Do you use it at all? Do you understand it and how it ties into the diamonds?
To answer you other question, yes, mass hysteria happens all the time. Look at global warming. There is no evidence that any warming is being caused by people (even worse, much of the science is junk and some of it outright fraudulent) yet world markets are being changed. There's money to be made off it so why look into it too hard?
This global warming crap is the ONE thing you and I agree on. NOT to be compared to CTE...not even close.
PJ has been one whacky human being for continuing his mission for 25 years. I really feel you have surpassed him on the nuttiness stage.
 
It IS in the book. I have no idea what "unknown perceptions" means. He's quite explicit.
Yeah, sure it is. By "unknown" I meant what Stan called the mystery that was never supposed to be.

So, has Poolology changed the way you play pool? Do you use it at all? Do you understand it and how it ties into the diamonds?
Yes I understand it and, no, I do not use it. No need to. The purpose of Poolology is to speed your learning curve to the point you don't need it any more. Do you still use your finger to read a book? No? Why not??
This global warming crap is the ONE thing you and I agree on. NOT to be compared to CTE...not even close.
PJ has been one whacky human being for continuing his mission for 25 years. I really feel you have surpassed him on the nuttiness stage.
 
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Well, you're still smarter than the average CTE cultist.

pj
chgo
I will take that as a compliment. When you have actually read the research papers and computer models related to global warming, and not what politicians say about those papers, then we can talk. ;)
 
When you have actually read the research papers and computer models related to global warming, and not what politicians say about those papers, then we can talk.
No, we can't, because you obviously haven't done that.

I'll stick with 99% of the planet's climate scientists, TYVM.

pj
chgo
 
Nope. Stan said he won't be discussing why it works in the book. I think we even have that on video somewhere.
If you can read between the lines it doesn't have to be explained, it's brain training. I recently watched a good player teach a decent player without a stroke how to aim kick shots. Decent player started hitting the shots. Decent player missed a few shots until they got the stroke right. The method good player teaches works decently, but what it did was give the player a baseline and let them make the small adjustments through practice. If you just SEE/FEEL the shot it's a waste of time using the system he showed. A little mind trick that even works with some of the better players I know who use it. Did the mind trick make the shot? Of course not, there were dozens of little things that could have went wrong, yet with the power of "do it like this" decent player made the shot. Confidence is king. The trick is remaining confident once you see behind the curtain. It's scary to have a deep understanding of a system so it's no wonder people don't want to know the truth. Said decent player didn't realize the reason they were making the shots was the system forced them to learn to stroke the ball on a kick shot.

If you want to be the best player you can you must know the truth and then simply do the shot. Make the adjustments. Perform the shots until they become natural. Learn the system, forget the system.

CTE is a baseline and a SYSTEM designed to be a structured way to get people to HAMB and have blind confidence/faith while doing so. Keeping people confident and just trying to become the perfection that is CTE is what keeps them improving. Literally it can teach you to play pool, which I think you agree with. They just don't want to see the WHY and for some reason guard it quite tightly. If you build a house of cards or set up a run of dominoes you have to keep the window closed or a stiff breeze can cause havoc. CTE treats the user as a child who doesn't have the capability to understand. There's a reason the book has several pages dedicated to the underdog story and all the "haterz." It needs the angle to assure compliance. You're either for us (and know the one true way) or you're a "hater." If you can put your faith in the truth that is CTE, you can dedicate the time at the table to make it work. It's not CTE that is wrong, it's just you need a deeper understanding and enough practice. Some people have been at it for decades. They keep improving! Name ONE system that a user can improve in if they use it for over a decade!

Oh... that's all of them! 🤣
 
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Yeah, sure it is. By "unknown" I meant what Stan called the mystery that was never supposed to be.
I can't speak for Stan, just my take on it. I think the mystery that was never supposed to be had to do with the limited information that Hal put out on the entire visual process. You talked to Hal, so did I and many others. Over the phone Hal said to align center to edge with an inside tip placement, then without moving or changing the head/eye position just pivot back to CCB and take the shot. I don't know what kind of success or lack of success you had but I did and it definitely got my curiosity going. Months later, he introduced me to Shiskabob. ANOTHER mind blower. Never, NEVER was a contact point or fraction used to align (aim) the shot. It was the TIP OF THE CUE and/or FERRULE to only 3 places on the OB coupled with a pivot.
DEADLY!
Yes I understand it and, no, I do not use it. No need to. The purpose of Poolology is to speed your learning curve to the point you don't need it any more.
You've also never ingrained it and tried using it for any length of time, have you? How do you know it wouldn't be better than what you're doing? Doesn't matter. The creator hardly uses it himself. No need to answer.
Do you still use your finger to read a book? No? Why not??
Because I learned the Evelyn Woods speed reading technique. I liken CTE to that compared to connecting the dots for contact points and fractions. You should try it sometime. The only thing standing in your way is your own obstinance and stinkin' thinkin'.
 
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