Master mech at work at the Pred event now

Wow! That is quite a bold statement. I know why the slate was crowned in Arizona. I can only speculate as to why there is a problem with some of the tables in Vegas since I am not there.
I don't make bold statements that I can't back up, and I didn't have to be in Arizona or Vegas to know what the problem with those tables are. I called the tables junk long before the Arizona tournament. Search AZB as to when I said that, it was the minute Predator announced they were going to produce their own 9ft tournament tables publicly! Everyone else though i was just bashing them and I was just playing favorites with Diamond. Like I said, I KNOW pool tables!! Even i can't fix the problem in THOSE designed tables, and that's saying something!!
 
This is the training center at our 20,000-square-foot store.

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REAL TALK AND REAL BUSINESS>>>>

These guys sell/ service ALLL of the major brands and Bill P. is a great guy!!!! Can't wait to stop by and play some racks.
Be down early May!

TFT
 
I'm sorry but this is a lame excuse.

How long have pool tables been made? Any secrets were long ago revealed.

Imagine a new car coming out but the wheels don't align without re-drilling the front end parts. Begnners mistake? No.


Jeff Livingston
THIS YEAR. Jeff you dont have to be like that. Shit happens and if pool is gonna progress, people need to grow with it. Nothing in this world is perfect. I like PROGRESS and not bullshit, most of what I read on here is exactly that. No outcomes were quantifiably changed by any of this and their ACTION TO FIX STUFF IS AWESOME. All business's have issues, its how they handle the situation. PREDATOR RESPONSIBLY HANDLED THEIR BUSINESS. The only thing I think they could have done was keep people out of the area when they were working on the tables, there are far too many haters out there posting pictures in disrespect, when really I appreciate the pics of the GUYS FIXING THE ISSUES AND NOT BEING A BUNCH OF WHINEY SISSIES.....

TFT
 
I'm sorry but this is a lame excuse.

How long have pool tables been made? Any secrets were long ago revealed.

Imagine a new car coming out but the wheels don't align without re-drilling the front end parts. Begnners mistake? No.


Jeff Livingston
They also aren't new tables they are rebranded tables.

I also hope they fix the issues, but I wonder if a different design would lend better to being moved around all the time. They might be fine if they are in a permanent location.
 
THIS YEAR. Jeff you dont have to be like that. Shit happens and if pool is gonna progress, people need to grow with it. Nothing in this world is perfect. I like PROGRESS and not bullshit, most of what I read on here is exactly that. No outcomes were quantifiably changed by any of this and their ACTION TO FIX STUFF IS AWESOME. All business's have issues, its how they handle the situation. PREDATOR RESPONSIBLY HANDLED THEIR BUSINESS. The only thing I think they could have done was keep people out of the area when they were working on the tables, there are far too many haters out there posting pictures in disrespect, when really I appreciate the pics of the GUYS FIXING THE ISSUES AND NOT BEING A BUNCH OF WHINEY SISSIES.....

TFT

I'm out over $1000 from idiot table mechanics trying to fix a table produced with ongoing problems. It's gonna be more than that, actually, to get everything to normal...and I'll have to do the work.

It's 2022, not 1922. Where are the manufacturers' quality controls on repairing their products and where are their licensing of mechanics and such? I've fixed copiers, for example, and I couldn't touch one without first being trained at one of their facilities for weeks. For a reason.

I'm done with the excuses from table manufacturers...and clueless mechanics.

They're all playing us for suckers.



Jeff Livingston
 
They also aren't new tables they are rebranded tables.

I also hope they fix the issues, but I wonder if a different design would lend better to being moved around all the time. They might be fine if they are in a permanent location.

IMO: setting up 3 piece tables when there are 8 is really : NO BIG DEAL> Not sure why they are so concerned with trying to do what DIamond does with LARGE tourny setups. Its only relative to use their method when there are 16 + tables. It is as simple as that. Its my opinion and I know for a fact I could set up those 8 tables properly in 2 days with the right people. I know the crews on the Predator Team : CAN DO IT EVEN BETTER. Enough said from me on this topic. Bill Pelham & his guys over at The Billiard Factory in Jacksonville are out on the forefront of new pool territories and I give them all the respect I can. ONE LOVE AND GOD BLESS.


TFT
 
They also aren't new tables they are rebranded tables.

I also hope they fix the issues, but I wonder if a different design would lend better to being moved around all the time. They might be fine if they are in a permanent location.

Gosh, this must be the first time anyone has had to move a table to a tournament location.:unsure:

I'm sure the second time it will go perfectly.


Jeff Livingston
 
I'm out over $1000 from idiot table mechanics trying to fix a table produced with ongoing problems. It's gonna be more than that, actually, to get everything to normal...and I'll have to do the work.

It's 2022, not 1922. Where are the manufacturers' quality controls on repairing their products and where are their licensing of mechanics and such? I've fixed copiers, for example, and I couldn't touch one without first being trained at one of their facilities for weeks. For a reason.

I'm done with the excuses from table manufacturers...and clueless mechanics.

They're all playing us for suckers.



Jeff Livingston
YOU HIRED HIM> YOU BOUGHT THE TABLE> You have no dog in this fight. These tables are not even publicly available: NOW WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY???

You want to generalize this issue into YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS?? DONE LISTENING TO THAT SHIT


TFT

P,s Jeff, you and I have been cool. What table do you have? Is it a Predator?
 
It's OK. We got it under control.
And by the way, I have no problem installing their cloth if you need some pointers.
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You mean their branded cloth right? I'll pass on the pointers, but you really should learn my glue down system. Side note, I'll never i stall the cloth on a customers table.
 
YOU HIRED HIM> YOU BOUGHT THE TABLE> You have no dog in this fight. These tables are not even publicly available: NOW WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY???

You want to generalize this issue into YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS?? DONE LISTENING TO THAT SHIT


TFT

P,s Jeff, you and I have been cool. What table do you have? Is it a Predator?

I'm saying the manufacturers are stupid here at this tournament and generally in the whole market. I thought that was clear.

I have a small 8 foot Olhausen. It's beautiful to look at.

I'm rooting for your new idea, Trent. You seem to get it.



Jeff Livingston
 
It's OK. We got it under control.
And by the way, I have no problem installing their cloth if you need some pointers.
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Are you sure you know what the problem with those tables are? I seriously doubt it, drilling the slates to pull down the crown won't last long, because the tables are going to be loaded into those carts, then unloaded and set up again, and the problem still won't have been fixed. Got to know what the problem is first, in order to fix it, and you WON'T be fixing it on THOSE tables😅🤣😂
 
Gosh, this must be the first time anyone has had to move a table to a tournament location.:unsure:

I'm sure the second time it will go perfectly.


Jeff Livingston
How about repeatedly moving those tables in and out of events makes them get worse and worse!
 
You make a statement like that and expect me to call you?

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No need to call, I thought you might be a real pool table mechanic, my mistake, you're just a sales person😅🤣🤣and as such, its your job to deflect the publics attention away from the real problems with those tables in order to try and sell the brand!
 
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