9 ball wwyd

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

If you are going to use low right why not just play the 7 straight in?
The best one pocket players in the world would rather have a straight in shot rather than a bank
and good one pocket playrer are pretty comfortable with banks.

It’s not straight in. Too much angle to throw it without hitting it off center There is no way to get as close to the 8 on the cut as with the bank shot. Unless you are taking 8 past the side afterwards. Sorry I’m getting some panties in a bunch. You guys have no draw control or something? Am I the only one here that adds banks into my run pattern? If it’s an easy bank why not? Keeps my speed up and intimidates my opponent when they are falling good.

I’ll bet no one here would bet a pro player $100 the pro couldn’t make that bank 10 times in a row. What about 15-20? If you wouldn’t make the bet thinking you’d win don’t knock my route.

 

[straightline]

I come across many bar poolers that if not straight in, will bank. Same thing with getting too steep on ducks - they kick at 'em. Doesn't make any pool sense but that's the logic they use. At least they think.

 

[easy-e]

It’s not straight in. Too much angle to throw it without hitting it off center There is no way to get as close to the 8 on the cut as with the bank shot. Unless you are taking 8 past the side afterwards. Sorry I’m getting some panties in a bunch. You guys have no draw control or something? Am I the only one here that adds banks into my run pattern? If it’s an easy bank why not? Keeps my speed up and intimidates my opponent when they are falling good.

I’ll bet no one here would bet a pro player $100 the pro couldn’t make that bank 10 times in a row. What about 15-20? If you wouldn’t make the bet thinking you’d win don’t knock my route.

I bolded three statements in your post and here are my replies:
1. Yes there is.
2. When you miss it will build their confidence.
3. I would.

 

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

I’ll tell you what. Where’s Big Kat been? He’s always banking everything on these WWYD. If he’s cutting it, I concede

 

[easy-e]

I’ll tell you what. Where’s Big Kat been? He’s always banking everything on these WWYD. If he’s cutting it, I concede

You should be more open to the ideas you're getting here. The vote is currently 7-1 in favor of cutting. Some of the responses are from posters who wreck the 9-ball ghost regularly.

 

[philly]

It’s not straight in. Too much angle to throw it without hitting it off center There is no way to get as close to the 8 on the cut as with the bank shot. Unless you are taking 8 past the side afterwards. Sorry I’m getting some panties in a bunch. You guys have no draw control or something? Am I the only one here that adds banks into my run pattern? If it’s an easy bank why not? Keeps my speed up and intimidates my opponent when they are falling good.

I’ll bet no one here would bet a pro player $100 the pro couldn’t make that bank 10 times in a row. What about 15-20? If you wouldn’t make the bet thinking you’d win don’t knock my route.

It's an easy cut on the 7 in the side.
Straight in is always easier than a bank.
Don't even know why you would even question thatbut go ahead and play your game.
Enjoy it.

 

[The_JV]

Risk management is the name of the game, and that gives you the best chance to win the game IMO.

Nailed it... ...and I'm thinking a lack of following that methodology is ONE of the reasons the OP is stalling in growth as a player

 

[philly]

I’ll tell you what. Where’s Big Kat been? He’s always banking everything on these WWYD. If he’s cutting it, I concede

How long have you been playing and what sort of room do you play in?
Asking for a friend.

 

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

I bolded three statements in your post and here are my replies:
1. Yes there is.
2. When you miss it will build their confidence.
3. I would.

I bolded three statements in your post and here are my replies:
1. Yes there is.
2. When you miss it will build their confidence.
3. I would.

1. The draw puts you closer to the 8 unless you go long short side for 8 ball which is a harder shot on the 8. Draw puts you a bit above parallel to 9 and 3-4” from 8. In order to follow it you have to pass 9 making your closest shot to 8 following like 5-6”

2. If I miss it’s gonna hit a nipple and the cb is going to be on the rail for them to shoot probably a not so easy shot. Maybe easy for you. Not for everybody.

3. You’d bet on anything….

 

[DeeDeeCues]

I’ll bet no one here would bet a pro player $100 the pro couldn’t make that bank 10 times in a row. What about 15-20? If you wouldn’t make the bet thinking you’d win don’t knock my route.

I'd make that bet with the following provisos:

1. We do one shot on ten different tables, no practices.

2. You bet the same hundred that any pro would take the bank over the cut.

 

[straightline]

Nailed it... ...and I'm thinking a lack of following that methodology is ONE of the reasons the OP is stalling in growth as a player

I think banking instead of cutting is a kind of risk management. The ball is probably easier to stop. Having to run the ball may be like shooting into the darkness.

 

[David in FL]

I think you can play short side on the 8 pretty easy here. If you get on the short side and don’t like the angle, the safe is there. Can you swing the CB around somehow and get on the other side of the 8? Sure. But i think I prefer a 100% chance of making the 7, seeing the 8, and staying in control of the table than trying a multi rail route through a path where I’m hooked part of the time, into a smaller position window.

Exactly my thought. The shape window on the long side of the 8 is pretty tight. Miss it and you‘re toast. Lots of good options from the short side.

Banking the 7 makes no sense to me at all. Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean that you should…

 

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

I'd make that bet with the following provisos:

1. We do one shot on ten different tables, no practices.

2. You bet the same hundred that any pro would take the bank over the cut.

Ok you got it. Done. Book it. On # 2 I’ll make sure to mention to the pro we are playing banks. Lol.
Kidding man I’m kidding I don’t wanna bet 100. I knew most people would take the cut

 

[easy-e]

1. The draw puts you closer to the 8 unless you go long short side for 8 ball which is a harder shot on the 8. Draw puts you a bit above parallel to 9 and 3-4” from 8. In order to follow it you have to pass 9 making your closest shot to 8 following like 5-6”

2. If I miss it’s gonna hit a nipple and the cb is going to be on the rail for them to shoot probably a not so easy shot. Maybe easy for you. Not for everybody.

3. You’d bet on anything….

Just so I'm clear, you're not comfortable cutting it in and getting out, but you feel confident that you have that much control of your draw? A little too hard or too soft and you're hooked by the 9. Your other threads indicate that you have difficulty playing 9-ball and controlling your follow through. You're getting good advice here.

I'd like you to find me a pro that would bet on himself making that bank 10 times in a row and getting shape. Until that happens, the hypothetical is silly. I don't think SVB would take that bet.

 

[alstl]

I'd go two rails to the 8. Am I missing something? Looks like a standard shot.

 

[Willowbrook Wolfy]

Just so I'm clear, you're not comfortable cutting it in and getting out, but you feel confident that you have that much control of your draw? A little too hard or too soft and you're hooked by the 9. Your other threads indicate that you have difficulty playing 9-ball and controlling your follow through. You're getting good advice here.

I'd like you to find me a pro that would bet on himself making that bank 10 times in a row and getting shape. Until that happens, the hypothetical is silly. I don't think SVB would take that bet.

Yes draw is much better than follow especially when comparing a 2ft draw to a 6ft follow.

Huh I said in that post that my 9 ball game is catching up to my 8 ball game and I can keep up with mid to upper shortstops in 8. I run 1 out of 4 or 1 out of 5 nine ball racks now on average without ball in hand. What does that make me in 9? a 630 or so?

 

[The_JV]

I think banking instead of cutting is a kind of risk management. The ball is probably easier to stop. Having to run the ball may be like shooting into the darkness.

If that's the case then the player really needs to work on CB control imo.

The bank does not provide zero consequence shape on the 8, and it would be easy enough to leave yourself hooked or on top of the 8. Running through the 7 at the very least provides you a clean hit on the 8 no matter what. We don't need to go beyond that to determine which approach has less risk.

 

[SmoothStroke]

I’m still the only one banking low right straight back with cb. Lots of right. Bank is easy with the throw. Once cb hits long rail it’s going up table straight in line with 8 ball if I hit it too hard.

I'm betting you will be the only one standing on top of that mountain at the end of the day, unless some
co-conspirator comes along.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

7 in the side with outside english to come out 2 rails for the 8 in the corner that its close to

still dont like 9 ball

 

[The_JV]

Yes draw is much better than follow especially when comparing a 2ft draw to a 6ft follow.

enough said...

Huh I said in that post that my 9 ball game is catching up to my 8 ball game and I can keep up with mid to upper shortstops in 8. I run 1 out of 4 or 1 out of 5 nine ball racks now on average without ball in hand. What does that make me in 9? a 630 or so?

If you could actually keep up to upper shortstops you wouldn't be: A) asking this question, B) playing draw over follow, C) be playing with a group that questions your decisions.