If the person installing the rail cloth knows what they're doing it's a non issue.
2022 World Cup cloth installation
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Yeah, I am not following their lead on this one. I think it also could be a distraction shooting down the long rail, while we are talking about it. I do love what they are doing for pool, but, not interested in that fold at all. Matchroom is the best thing going for Professional Pool in the world!!!
TFT
Got any pictures of any 9ft side pockets with NO fold in them, I've never seen the side pockets without a fold in them in over 50+ years when I first started playing pool, and certainly not in the last 40 years I've been working on pool tables. Good luck doing your own rails with no folds in the side pockets.Yeah, I am not following their lead on this one. I think it also could be a distraction shooting down the long rail, while we are talking about it. I do love what they are doing for pool, but, not interested in that fold at all. Matchroom is the best thing going for Professional Pool in the world!!!
TFT
I don't think I've ever seen a side pocket without folds. That excludes snooker cut pockets though.
The placement of the fold in this case is what interested me. I want to say this method would actually be easier to perform. Speaking from my incredibly short and inadequate experience. I found the cloth tension at the feather strip made getting the traditional fold not difficult per say, but something that took some playing around. I'm sure that boils down to inadequate technique, but it still seems more taxing then what it would take to perform the "matchroom" style fold.
The Valleys at where I play league at were at one time done without a fold in the side pockets, not sure if they still are now though, as quite honestly I never paid any more attention to it after I joined the league. They have 8 tables there and league for me doesn't start up till end of Aug. They do have a summer league and sometimes we stop by to visit with friends. If I go, I'll make a point of checking it out.
Those points have a decent rounding to them. Is that generally accepted on Valley BB...?
I generally do not work on them, avoid working on them,the only reason I did these is because they are in my home room and the other location in town that I maintain. They are not the procut extended rails, they are standard Penguin replacement rails. This is the method I decided to use and no one has ever complained. Mostly bangers and some leagues play on them. Anything that gets near the pocket goes in ... LOL
Most importantly: I avoid playing on them other than to check them after we are done installing the new cloth and leveling them.
I dont care for Valley tables at all. The owner of the room has no reason to replace them, people use them a ton.
TFT
I generally do not work on them, avoid working on them, the only reason I did these is because they are in my home room and the other location in town that I maintain. They are not the procut extended rails, they are standard Penguin replacement rails. This is the method I decided to use and no one has ever complained. Mostly bangers and some leagues play on them. Anything that gets near the pocket goes in ... LOL
Most importantly: I avoid playing on them other than to check them after we are done installing the new cloth and leveling them.
I dont care for Valley tables at all. The owner of the room has no reason to replace them, people use them a ton.
TFT
Thats what happens when you stretch the cloth so tight to avoid putting a fold in the side pockets.
please post your link!! I would like to see it
TFT
p.s. Were you using a napped cloth or a worsted?? The pic I posted is using CPBA Pro, it is a worsted cloth.
This prompted me to watch some of your other videos. Been a long time since I've heard AFI on the radio.
Good stuff.
Thanks!
Titan would be far easier, but, I never really used napped cloth. Thanks for posting!
TFT
Child's play cloth compared to Simonis worsted woolen, or really any other worsted woolen cloths with very little stretch compared to the Titan woven woolen cloth.
If you had more experience at installing cloth, you wouldn't need to rely on your imagination!
I'd be willing to bet the grain of the cloth curves out away from the side pocket shelf, which is more than likely why balls don't like to roll straight down the rails past the side pockets, grain tracking, especially on Simonis cloth.
When you say 'opposite" on most of the tables you've seen, you're going to have to explain that, because for 40 years working on pool tables, all I've ever seen, and done, is put folds in the side pockets.
But, these fold are under rhe front of the rails, and though they look clean, they're the wrong way to finish the side pockets. Who ever recovered those rails compromised finishing the pockets because they're inexperienced at putting the folds over the facings, which also serves as added protection from the balls beating through a single layer of cloth over the facings. The folds over the facings also cut down on the side pockets from being to springy when pocketing balls in them.