US Open 9B October, 2022 -- Atlantic City

[mikepage]

that was my exact reaction. but raga has gotten his fargo score playing quite locally, east asia and mainly PI. i don't know what that translates to when on the big stage in the US

also noted that mr. blyler is back to exact revenge on mr. filler.

There is no translation issue there. Having only 850 games is the biggest source of uncertainty for him.

 

[skogstokig]

There is no translation issue there. Having only 850 games is the biggest source of uncertainty for him.

you don't believe that some players perform worse outside their home country? or when playing on the matchroom stage?

 

[sjm]

All of us who watched Raga come within a single rack of winning the China Open against Wu in the final knows he's got the pedigree to win anything. Nonetheless, to expect Raga to have an instant return to form after the pandemic removed him from international competition for quite a while is probably unrealistic. Still, it would make for quite a story.

 

[mikepage]

you don't believe that some players perform worse outside their home country? or when playing on the matchroom stage?

Sorry. I agree with you. I thought you were saying something different. I'm not particularly worried about Raga in this regard, though. Here is his record against opponents over 780 while playing thousands of miles from home where he likely doesn't speak the local language.

 

[mikepage]

Here is distribution of ratings for the US Open entrants

 

[Ģüśţāṿ]

My gosh there is a lot of dead money in there.

I never understand the point of "dead money" comments. Sure there are many high fargo players who are expected to finish strong, but anyone can get on a hot streak and go deep.

Plus the "dead money" people contribute to the prize fund and have the courage to play against top level players. Sometimes you play well enough to win, sometimes you're simply gaining experience. Either way can be advantageous to progress your game.

 

[sjm]

Here is distribution of ratings for the US Open entrants View attachment 664065

Strong as strong can be. Approximately 60% of the entrants carry a Fargo of 750+. A fan's delight!

Late correction: About 60% of the field carries a Fargo of 720+. My bad.

 

[sjm]

I never understand the point of "dead money" comments. Sure there are many high fargo players who are expected to finish strong, but anyone can get on a hot streak and go deep.

Plus the "dead money" people contribute to the prize fund and have the courage to play against top level players. Sometimes you play well enough to win, sometimes you're simply gaining experience. Either way can be advantageous to progress your game.

I like this post. Still, what you seem to be saying is that there's nothing wrong with being dead money, as a) you gain valuable experience, b) you get to measure your game against the elite, and c) it's an exciting experience to compete with the best.

Anyone can get on a run and go deep? Probably not. I'll predict that nobody with Fargo less than 750 finishes in the top 16.

 

[skogstokig]

Sorry. I agree with you. I thought you were saying something different. I'm not particularly worried about Raga in this regard, though. Here is his record against opponents over 780 while playing thousands of miles from home where he likely doesn't speak the local language. View attachment 664064

those are still neighboring countries. i hope to be proven wrong, but may impression of raga is that he so far has preferred to be a big fish in a small pond. i have no doubt he is a massive talent, but it's been kind of wasted playing "safe" money matches against (mainly mid-tier) compatriots on bucket star tables.

 

[Guy Manges]

Mario He, Fargo 804, is not on the list, and neither is 2021 WPC bronze medalist Oliver Szolnocki, Fargo 794.

Yes Mario is on ...

 

[Guy Manges]

Demetrius, The best to you and good luck to... Guy

 

[sjm]

Allen Hopkins, and Orcullo....Not on list.

Will you be there, Bill?

 

[Island Drive]

Nope.....good chance next year.
It's about 3K for cost to fly/N.J. then, hopper to A.City and back Plus, hotel weekend rates and food costs.
Bit too much till I get my WBT (www.worldbilliardtour.com) in cue.
I've got my second test event coming in Nov. and hopefully one more and then/maybe W. Coast at a casino/that I'm in the good with.
Bit bored, being retired, putting myself ''back to work''.
My WBT concept. Same as WPT world poker tour, but with pool.

I'll know by years end.

bm

 

[Guy Manges]

All of us who watched Raga come within a single rack of winning the China Open against Wu in the final knows he's got the pedigree to win anything. Nonetheless, to expect Raga to have an instant return to form after the pandemic removed him from international competition for quite a while is probably unrealistic. Still, it would make for quite a story.

Stu, I've never seen Anton past the qualifying on The Joy tour, those Joy Q8,s get him, Back home on the Stars he,s bad news, Also he,s growing up... I hope he gets to play here in states... Guy

 

[sjm]

Stu, I've never seen Anton past the qualifying on The Joy tour, those Joy Q8,s get him, Back home on the Stars he,s bad news, Also he,s growing up... I hope he gets to play here in states... Guy

I'll enjoy watching how it plays out.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Sorry. I agree with you. I thought you were saying something different. I'm not particularly worried about Raga in this regard, though. Here is his record against opponents over 780 while playing thousands of miles from home where he likely doesn't speak the local language. View attachment 664064

Hi Mike,

Do you have any recent results from Zheng? I recall he was at the very top of the Fargo list a few years ago then disappeared.

 

[iusedtoberich]

those are still neighboring countries. i hope to be proven wrong, but may impression of raga is that he so far has preferred to be a big fish in a small pond. i have no doubt he is a massive talent, but it's been kind of wasted playing "safe" money matches against (mainly mid-tier) compatriots on bucket star tables.

I’d bet dollars to doughnuts most of the superstar Filipino’s would move to the USA and compete internationally at every major event if given the chance. It’s probably a case of he can’t travel frequently due to a host of various reasons.

 

[telinoz]

I never understand the point of "dead money" comments. Sure there are many high fargo players who are expected to finish strong, but anyone can get on a hot streak and go deep.

Plus the "dead money" people contribute to the prize fund and have the courage to play against top level players. Sometimes you play well enough to win, sometimes you're simply gaining experience. Either way can be advantageous to progress your game.

Exactly.

 

[GentlemanJames]

Matchroom has announced the draw for the US Open. It's available here:

US Open Pool Championship 2022

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Here is a (fixed) list of the players:

1 Adam Oussi, Jamal (United States)
2 Aggarwal, Rohit (India)
3 Akaloo, Kyle (South Africa)
4 Al Shaheen, Omar (Kuwait)
5 Alawadhi, Badar (Kuwait)
6 Alberto Delgado, José (Spain)
7 Alcaide Bermudez, David (Spain)
8 Alexander, Chris (United Kingdom)
9 Alkouba, Ramy (Lebanon)
10 Alnar, Mustafa (Turkey)
11 Alshariti, Zaid (Syria)
12 Alyousef, Abdullah (Kuwait)
13 André Gangfløt, Emil (Norway)
14 Anh Tuan, Nguyen (Vietnam)
15 Appleton, Darren (United Kingdom)
16 Atencio, Jesus (Venezuela)
17 Ayers, Simon (United Kingdom)
18 Babica, Radoslaw (Poland)
19 Baden, Guido (United States)
20 Barcus, Blaine (United States)
21 Bazinet, Chad (United States)
22 Beaurivage, Vincent (Canada)
23 Beckley, Jeff (United States)
24 Bell, Coen (United States)
25 Belmonte, Ivan (Spain)
26 Beramendi, Guillermo (Peru)
27 Biado, Carlo (Philippines)
28 Bijsterbosch, Marc (Netherlands)
29 Blackiston, Robert (United States)
30 Blowers, Tyrel (United States)
31 Blyler, Joseph (United States)
32 Botta, Pedro (United States)
33 Boursse, Ryan (United States)
34 Brown, Ellis (United States)
35 burton, tony (United Kingdom)
36 Bustamante, Joven (United States)
37 Candela, Francesco (Italy)
38 Capito, Robbie (Hong Kong)
39 Carlos Expósito Otero, Juan (Spain)
40 Cheng Tsai, Ping (Chinese Taipei)
41 Chia Chen, Chen (Chinese Taipei)
42 Chia Chen, Hsieh (Chinese Taipei)
43 Chua, Johann (Philippines)
44 Clark, Sullivan (New Zealand)
45 Crawley, Ben (Australia)
46 Czapla, Bart (Poland)
47 Dalibor, Nikolin (Serbia)
48 De Leon, Nicholas (United States)
49 De Luna, Jeffrey (Philippines)
50 De Ruyter, Tim (Netherlands)
51 Dendariarena, Reinaldo (Puerto Rico)
52 Derick Daya, David (United States)
53 Deuel, Corey (United States)
54 Disse, Samuel (United States)
55 Dominguez, Ernesto (Mexico)
56 Dominguez, Oscar (United States)
57 Donald, Kenny (United States)
58 Dorenburg, Marco (Germany)
59 Duc Thien, Luong (Vietnam)
60 Dufresne, Pascal (Canada)
61 Duong Quoc, Hoang (Vietnam)
62 Eberle, Max (United States)
63 Ekonomopoulos, Nick (Greece)
64 Epperson, Edward (United States)
65 Fefilova, Margaret (ANA)
66 Feijen, Niels (Netherlands)
67 Filler, Joshua (Germany)
68 Filler, Pia (Germany)
69 Finlaw, Les (United States)
70 Finnigan, Andrew (United Kingdom)
71 Fisher, Kelly (United Kingdom)
72 Folan, Stephen (Canada)
73 Fortuński, Mieszko (Poland)
74 Fracasso-Verner, Lukas (United States)
75 Frost, Robert (United States)
76 Garcia, Roland (Philippines)
77 Georgiou, Lefteris (Cyprus)
78 Gomez, Roberto (Philippines)
79 Gordon, Brandon (United States)
80 Gorst, Fedor (ANA)
81 Grabe, Denis (Estonia)
82 Guenzel, Keith (United States)
83 Guthrie, Brad (Canada)
84 Guttenberger, Daniel (Austria)
85 Haas, Scott (United States)
86 Haas, Thomas (United States)
87 Hart, Robert (United States)
88 He, Mario (Austria)
89 Henderson, Samuel (United States)
90 Hetherington, Barry (United States)
91 Ho Sum, Lo (Hong Kong)
92 Hogue, Gregory (United States)
93 Hohmann, Thorsten (Germany)
94 Holem, Stephen (Canada)
95 Hsuan-Wei, Kuo (Chinese Taipei)
96 Humphries, Adam (United Kingdom)
97 Hutchins, Barnes (United States)
98 Immonen, Mika (Finland)
99 Io Ngat, Wong (Macao)
100 Jelatis, Demetrius (United States)
101 Jose Rosa, Juan (Puerto Rico)
102 Jr Ussery, Billy (United States)
103 Jung-Lin, Chang (Chinese Taipei)
104 Jungo, Dimitri (Switzerland)
105 Juszczyszyn, Konrad (Poland)
106 KaÇi, Eklent (Albania)
107 Kaplan, Tomasz (Poland)
108 Kazakis, Alex (Greece)
109 Kedia, Harshit (India)
110 Keihola, Kai (Finland)
111 Kennedy, Jeffrey (Canada)
112 Kin Ling Leo, Yip (Hong Kong)
113 Koch, Mason (United States)
114 Koji, Tomitaka (Japan)
115 Kont, Sander (Estonia)
116 Kotuba, Steve (United States)
117 Krah, Matt (United States)
118 Krause, Mickey (Denmark)
119 Kun Lin, Wu (Chinese Taipei)
120 Laar, Rainer (Estonia)
121 LaBonte, Randolph (United States)
122 Labutis, Pijus (Lithuania)
123 LANCE, CASH (United States)
124 Larsson, Henrik (Sweden)
125 Lechner, Max (Austria)
126 Li, Zih-Min (Chinese Taipei)
127 Lian Han, Toh (Singapore)
128 Liang, Michael (United States)
129 Libranti, Angelo (United States)
130 Lin, Cheng-Lung (Chinese Taipei)
131 Linares, Raymond (United States)
132 Lombardo, Hunter (United States)
133 Lotfy, Bahram (Denmark)
134 Loukatos, Dimitris (Greece)
135 Lu, Silviana (Indonesia)
136 Maciol, Daniel (Poland)
137 Magee, Joe (United States)
138 Majid, Imran (United Kingdom)
139 Makkonen, Petri (Finland)
140 Mancuso, Salvatore (United States)
141 Martin, Justin (United States)
142 McBride, Payne (United States)
143 mekari, tomoki (Japan)
144 Melling, Chris (United Kingdom)
145 Milane, Robert (United States)
146 Miller, Rick (United States)
147 Mills, Donny (United States)
148 Mocock, Jamie (United Kingdom)
149 Moody Sr, John (United States)
150 Morra, John (Canada)
151 Mumtaz, Farhan (Canada)
152 Nair, Dino (South Africa)
153 Neuhausen, Moritz (Germany)
154 Ngoc Phuong, To (Vietnam)
155 Nguyen, Kenney (United States)
156 Nguyen, Long (Vietnam)
157 Oi, Naoyuki (Japan)
158 Olech, Michal (Poland)
159 Olson, Danny (United States)
160 Ott, Leo (United States)
161 Ouschan, Albin (Austria)
162 Pagulayan, Alex (Canada)
163 Painter, Donny (United States)
164 Parker, Erik (United States)
165 Patsura, Vitaliy (Ukraine)
166 Pecelj, Aleksa (Serbia)
167 Pehlivanovic, Sanjin (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
168 Ping Chung (秉中柯), Ko (Chinese Taipei)
169 Ping Han, Ko (Chinese Taipei)
170 Pin-Yi (秉逸柯), Ko (Chinese Taipei)
171 Prasad, Adrian (United States)
172 Praseutsy, Michael (United States)
173 Prather, Jim (United States)
174 Prentice, Phillip (United States)
175 Price, Marcel (United Kingdom)
176 Raga, Anthony (Philippines)
177 Regli, Ronald (Switzerland)
178 Reinhold, Chris (United States)
179 Ri Teng, Liu (Chinese Taipei)
180 Roberts, Josh (United States)
181 Robichaud, Jason (Canada)
182 Robles, Esteban (Costa Rica)
183 Robles, Tony (United States)
184 Rolon Rosado, Alan (Puerto Rico)
185 Romero, Gregory (United States)
186 Romppanen, Riku (Finland)
187 Saleh, Mike (United States)
188 Sanchez Ruiz, Francisco (Spain)
189 Sanderson, Elliott (United Kingdom)
190 Savicki, Jakub (Poland)
191 Sawant, Prathamesh (India)
192 Sayed, Sharik (Singapore)
193 Scalzitti, Kevin (United States)
194 Schneider, Daniel (Switzerland)
195 Schneider, Michael (Switzerland)
196 Sciafani, Michael (United States)
197 Seaman, Jeremy (United States)
198 Serrano, Gary (United States)
199 Sharlow, Daniel (United States)
200 Shaw, Jayson (United Kingdom)
201 Shlemperis, David (United States)
202 Shuff, Brandon (United States)
203 Siekkinen, Jani (Finland)
204 Skowerski, Karol (Poland)
205 Souquet, Ralf (Germany)
206 Souto Comino, Jonas (Spain)
207 Spaanstra, Paul (United States)
208 Spahiu, Besar (Albania)
209 Spence, Joe (United States)
210 Stock, Justin (United States)
211 Strickland, Earl (United States)
212 Styer, Tyler (United States)
213 Sullivan, Hunter (United States)
214 Szewczyk, Wojciech (Poland)
215 Tamminen, Petri (Finland)
216 Tate, Joseph (United States)
217 Teber, Tayfun (Germany)
218 Teresa Ropero, Maria (United States)
219 teruya, katsuji (Japan)
220 Teutscher, Marco (Netherlands)
221 Thanh Kien, Dang (Vietnam)
222 Theron, Jason (South Africa)
223 Thorpe, Billy (United States)
224 Tkach, Kristina (ANA)
225 Toohig, Michael (United States)
226 Torraca, Nic (United States)
227 Trader, Jeffrey (United States)
228 Trajceski, Ilija (United States)
229 Turnquest, Dakarai (Bahamas)
230 Uski, Jani (Finland)
231 Van Boening, Shane (United States)
232 Van Corteza, Lee (Philippines)
233 van Lierop, Jan (Netherlands)
234 VERGARA, MHET (Philippines)
235 Vidal Claramunt, Marc (United States)
236 Virtaranta, Jere (Finland)
237 Walters, Rich (United Kingdom)
238 Walton, Stanley (Cayman Islands)
239 Watanabe, Max (United States)
240 West, Kevin (United States)
241 West Jr, Barry (United States)
242 White, Jamie (United Kingdom)
243 White, John (Canada)
244 Williamson, Matthew (United States)
245 Wolford, Shane (United States)
246 Woodward, Skyler (United States)
247 Wragg, Martin (United States)
248 Yale, Nicholas (United States)
249 Yao, Koji (Japan)
250 Yapp, Aloysius (Singapore)
251 Yednak, Michael (United States)
252 Yoshioka, Masato (Japan)
253 Yu-Lung, Chang (Chinese Taipei)
254 Zaveri, Jaydev (India)
255 Zieliński, Wiktor (Poland)
256 Zock, Kevin (United States)

This is great, thanks for posting BOB! I'm really looking forward to watching and cheering for Niels, in-person. His 1st Match is Feijen v Epperson.

Anyone else from AZB going to be in AC? - GJ

 

[sjm]

Nope.....good chance next year.
It's about 3K for cost to fly/N.J. then, hopper to A.City and back Plus, hotel weekend rates and food costs.
Bit too much till I get my WBT (www.worldbilliardtour.com) in cue.
I've got my second test event coming in Nov. and hopefully one more and then/maybe W. Coast at a casino/that I'm in the good with.
Bit bored, being retired, putting myself ''back to work''.
My WBT concept. Same as WPT world poker tour, but with pool.

I'll know by years end.

bm

Best of luck with your project.